Last chance for Vegeta... Will he get SSJ3?

[Soba Mask]

With Toriyama gone and Daima being his last work. What ya think? Will we get it?

Because other than him getting it I can't see anyone getting a new transformation in the series

[TechExpert2021]

I don't see the possibility of SSJ3 making a comeback in Daima. DB Daima isn't going to be heavily reliant on transformations like DB Super.

[LightBing]

In terms of story, it doesn't make much sense.
SSJ3 is flawed, it wouldn't do Vegeta much good unless it's characteristics are changed.

In terms of marketing, I bet people would love it and it would sell quite a bit of merch. I guess it depends how much Toriyama cared for it/how much marketing people pushed for it.

I don't think it will happen but who knows!

Looking at the material, I find it more thematic that Vegeta regains his Majin form without all that baggage.

[Koitsukai]

I don't know if what the fandom wants is to see Kid Vegeta as SS3, I believe people has always wanted to see adult SS3 Vegeta. So, even if he gets it, it won't be what his stans have been expecting for 2 decades... but better that than nothing, I guess.

The Demon Realm might provide the perfect excuse for SS3 to not be a shitty, taxing form and actually do something.

[nineko]

Looking at the material, I find it more thematic that Vegeta regains his Majin form without all that baggage.

Well, the first majin boost made Vegeta reach Super Saiyan 2, so it's possible that a second majin boost would make him reach Super Saiyan 3.

I think it's extremely unlikely, however.

[Yuji]

I assume so. It's post Boo arc and pre BoG and we already see Goku using SS2 in what is presumably the first couple of episodes. He'll probably need SS3 later and if Vegeta is of any relevance in this series he'll need a similar battle power.

[ZombieVito]

Spoiler:

Yes. Geekdom already confirmed it.

[Jord]

Spoiler:

Yes. Geekdom already confirmed it.

I personally don't believe known liars.

I do believe that Vegeta did get SSJ3 in one of the raging blast games. Along with Broky I think.

[Mr Baggins]

Ahh, this takes me back to when folks didn't think he'd get/show Super Saiyan God.

It's only a matter of time.

[AliTheZombie13]

As much of a chance as "Super Vegeta" has from reappearing.
That is to say, it's not impossible, but... why?

[Yuji]

As much of a chance as "Super Vegeta" has from reappearing.
That is to say, it's not impossible, but... why?

Because it's the strongest form available at the period Daima takes place in? Why wouldn't he strive to achieve it?

[GokuHater]

I highly doubt it. There would be no reason for Toei to go that way and in the modern age they were never very interested in giving SSJ3 justice.
Vegeta just got Ultra Ego which kind of make you think of SSJ3 look.

I doubt there will be any major transformations in the show except SSJ and SSJ2. Could be wrong about it though.

I have a different idea in mind. What if through the story sometime someway Goku and Vegeta will be exposed to some form of god ki and will have to deal with it or get to know it. This would retroactively be the reason why in Super Goku and Vegeta could tap into this power so easily. (Yeah, off course Goku had the ritual but after that he didn't have any problems with it - and even SSJ was hard for him at first)
It always bugged me how there was lack of explanation of Vegeta getting Blue.

[Luso Saiyan]

Because it's the strongest form available at the period Daima takes place in? Why wouldn't he strive to achieve it?

Because it's not the best or most efficient. Why would he strive for it knowing the drawbacks?

I don't think it's going to happen, I see no reason for it to happen, specially in this story. But if it's going to happen, it will be shoved in by people other than Toriyama, which unfortunately is not impossible considering the recent past.

[Yuji]

Because it's the strongest form available at the period Daima takes place in? Why wouldn't he strive to achieve it?

Because it's not the best or most efficient. Why would he strive for it knowing the drawbacks?

I don't think it's going to happen, I see no reason for it to happen, specially in this story. But if it's going to happen, it will be shoved in by people other than Toriyama, which unfortunately is not impossible considering the recent past.

It's 4x as powerful as the previous form and like all Super Saiyan forms, it can be potentially be mastered or optimized. Goku will most certainly be using it if he's already resorting to SS2 in the first few episodes.

[Luso Saiyan]

It's 4x as powerful as the previous form and like all Super Saiyan forms, it can be potentially be mastered or optimized. Goku will most certainly be using it if he's already resorting to SS2 in the first few episodes.

No, SS2 and SS3 are merely buffed up versions of Super Saiyan, they can't be optimized because they aren't optimal by definition. That's why regular Super Saiyan is where the balance is and why Goku stuck to it (IIRC, Toriyama himself once said something similar).

It's also why the return of SS2 or SS3 (if it happens at all) will only be done for pandering purposes.

[Mr Baggins]

It's worth noting that just about all the Saiyan transformations are big stamina drainers until they're not. While I don't doubt that 2 and 3 are more taxing than 1 regardless, some level of optimization isn't out of the question. Goku wasn't shown to have any real issues with his lower forms in the Super manga.

[Koitsukai]

By the time Daima happens, SS3 is still a new thing. As far as they know, Goku might need to train a little more as a living person to reduce SS3's downsides, I mean Gotenks can sustain it. So Vegeta striving to unlock it isn't crazy.

Besides, the Demon Realm might provide the right environment for SS3 just like the After World does.

However, Daima could do something else and tie Vegeta to his Super Super Saiyan 2 that surpassed Goku in BoG.

[Grimlock]

I don't think anybody cares about narrative. If anyone did, Super Saiyan God wouldn't have returned, since Toriyama also said that after absorbing its power, there wouldn't be any need for its return, yet here we are. It is because no one cares for it that Vegeta should probably get Super Saiyan 3, despite knowing of its drawbacks.

Also, Super Saiyan 2 has no major drawbacks so narratively it should be used, in fact, it should have become the go-to transformation by now. But again, if narrative demands it, then we should probably ignore it.

What I'm more concerned about is Vegeta getting Super Saiyan 3 now will require some explanation as to why he didn't use it against Beerus, and in the event of Dragon Ball Daima doesn't take place in Dragon Ball Super continuity, why he didn't use it in Dragon Ball GT at all. The good news is that Vegeta getting it now will prevent more nonsensical scenarios like that one from Dragon Ball Z Kakarot, where Super Saiyan 3 Goku fights Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, despite taking place in AGE 784, a time period where Vegeta most definitely should have Super Saiyan 3.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Because it's the strongest form available at the period Daima takes place in? Why wouldn't he strive to achieve it?

Vegeta is pragmatic enough to know that Super Saiyan Grade 3 is not worth using due to lack of speed, he wouldnt go after Super Saiyan 3 after seeing how much energy it drained from Goku.

[Yuji]

It's 4x as powerful as the previous form and like all Super Saiyan forms, it can be potentially be mastered or optimized. Goku will most certainly be using it if he's already resorting to SS2 in the first few episodes.

No, SS2 and SS3 are merely buffed up versions of Super Saiyan, they can't be optimized because they aren't optimal by definition. That's why regular Super Saiyan is where the balance is and why Goku stuck to it (IIRC, Toriyama himself once said something similar).

It's also why the return of SS2 or SS3 (if it happens at all) will only be done for pandering purposes.

Trunks and Vegeta both have powered up versions of SS2.