Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

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Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:38 am

Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6

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Kanzenshuu Episode Guide Page:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/episode/daima/eps-006/

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Release Information:

JAPAN:
Date: November 15, 2024
Time: 11:40 p.m
Channel: Fuji TV

INTERNATIONAL STREAMING:
Date: November 15, 2024
Sources: Simulcast streams include Crunchyroll (North America, Central America, South America, Europe, Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Indian subcontinent, Southeast Asia, and Middle East); delayed streams include Netflix (Asia/global)

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:36 pm

So, the Glind aren't exactly men or women...which means...they go with gender identities that best fit them as individuals, eh?

How very transgender.

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Gokuu's use of Super Saiyan here would have kid harder if he hadn't used it in Episode #5, but whatever.

Also, was the Tachiki Fumihiko as the minotaur? I'm glad that such a throwaway character went to Tachiki, he's so good as an actor that I feel like he made the role more memorable.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:39 pm

Bad:
- Weakest episode so far. Exposition-heavy filled with pointless scenes.
- Am I supposed to be impressed by the Goku vs. Glorio fight? Super Saiyan isn't that high of a bar anymore, you know?
- That minotaur character was seriously wasted. The opening and preview made me think he'd amount to anything.
- Bulma and the others are joining already, that's... Oh, they're repeating the "Chi-Chi goes to Namek" bullshit.
- Is there any reason they can't just beat the shit out of the police?

Misc:
- Glorio is working for the bad guys... Giru confirmed?
- "So that's why you only drink!" - I'm sorry, what? Does that apply to every demon or just Glind and Namekians?
- "Glinds don't have gender, anyway, I'll address her with feminine pronouns."
- "The Demon World has two suns!" - Namek, is that you?
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:44 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:39 pm Bad:
- Weakest episode so far. Exposition-heavy filled with pointless scenes.
Weird complain, the actual exposition is less than 2 minutes long if you count.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:49 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:44 pm
AliTheZombie13 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:39 pm Bad:
- Weakest episode so far. Exposition-heavy filled with pointless scenes.
Weird complain, the actual exposition is less than 2 minutes long if you count.
They fix the broken ship (didn't need to happen), have Goku make poop jokes (didn't need to happen), meet with the police (a massive repeat of information we already knew), they get back on the ship to explain about the Glinds (exposition), stop by a minotaur's cave (which posed no threat), learn Glorio is strong-ish and is working for the bad guys, then we get a repeat of Chi-Chi goes to Namek shenanigans (pointless).

A lot of this episode felt like they were stretching the runtime because they didn't have much to work with. The comedy just wasn't good enough to keep me engaged.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:55 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:49 pm They fix the broken ship (didn't need to happen), have Goku make poop jokes (didn't need to happen), meet with the police (a massive repeat of information we already knew), they get back on the ship to explain about the Glinds (exposition), stop by a minotaur's cave (which posed no threat), learn Glorio is strong-ish and is working for the bad guys, then we get a repeat of Chi-Chi goes to Namek shenanigans (pointless).

A lot of this episode felt like they were stretching the runtime because they didn't have much to work with. The comedy just wasn't good enough to keep me engaged.
What does any of that have to do with exposition? The thing I was replying to.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 6 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:04 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:55 pm What does any of that have to do with exposition? The thing I was replying to.
Almost the entire first half the episode (meeting with the police, the ride on the ship) was dedicated to explaining things.
Half my complaint was about the exposition, the other half was about how many scenes simply felt pointless.
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:11 pm

Another perfectly good episode for them to have mentioned Makaios and Makaioshins, but why would they? Let's just make sure to mention that they are genderless instead, because that's certainly way more interesting and important.

So if there are five trees, are those what will dictate which quadrant of the Universe they might rule? Then again, Old Kaioshin was the previous Kaioshin of East but apparently they aren't siblings, so who knows? New questions on top of old ones. At least that they are born from trees was kept.

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Post by Issei189 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:26 pm

So the lore about Kaio being born as fruit on a tree from the Super Exciting Guide is canon now. The Interesting thing Shin mentioned is that there are 5 Glind trees while in the guide book they were born from a single tree as regular and golden fruits. Anyways, Those 4 Cockroach-esque Kaio like King Kai for example were likely born from one of those trees i guess.

The visual and Animation of Goku transitioning into a Super Saiyan was amazing. Goku stopping Glorio's attack and teleporting behind him were badass scenes. The scene of Vegeta doing Squats with those big weights was pretty cool. This is probably the first time we have seen Vegeta using a Barbell

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Post by LightBing » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:39 pm

First episode that felt slow for me. It was still fun, there just wasn't much progression going on.

The only new information was who Glorio was working for and Glind lore.
Glorio's showcase could have come sooner and would have been more interesting against Shin than Goku. Great animation and some magic.
Last scene seems unnecessary. We already know Hybis will help them, there's no surprise factor in play.

Want to point out how this dispute between Goku and Glorio only happened because the latter finally got tired of hearing his name mispronounced!
That's a good nod, makes the joke worthwhile for it's repetition.

Finally, the Minitaur was great! It was just a long gag, which my rudimentary Japanese got! The moshi got mushi! :lol:
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Post by nineko » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:15 pm

Meh. After a couple of good episodes, this felt like a letdown. On the upside, the rest of the cast is on their way back. Hopefully.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:18 pm

The only thing that saved this episode from being completely disposable for me was the reveal of Glorio being a double agent. I can only hope this will lead to him being an interesting character beyond being just stock stoic shonen character #23972397189.

This episode was atrociously paced and very light on any story progression.

The poop gag(?) with Goku was PAINFULLY unfunny.

When the minatour character was introduced and they started stalling when it came to having a fight with them and I had a feeling where this gag would lead to and it was as predictable as it was tired and overdone. I'm sorry, but gags like this just bore me now.

The Goku/Glorio fight was... fine. Glorio's magic didn't look any different from regular propped-up generic Ki blast attacks.

I love how this episode tried to make a big deal about Goku going Super Saiyan despite the fact it happened in the previous episode and nobody said a word about it. Did that previous moment just happen in a vacuum or something?

I don't know what the point of the final scene was. If the ship to take Piccolo, Vegeta and Kibito to the Demon Realm wasn't going to work to begin with, why have the scene in the first place? What's that meant to lead to? Bulma doing more repairs on the ship just to try again and have it take off? Pointless scene.

I didn't care for the exposition about the Kaioshin's species. It didn't play a part in the plot at all and just felt like something that included pad out the runtime

Yeah... this was the worst episode of Daima so far. A total nothing burger.

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Post by Yuji » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:26 pm

Kaioshin/Glind lore continues to be one of the more interesting parts about the Demon Realm so far. I hope they tie up all loose ends nicely (ie. how Glinds came to be the authorities in the Multiverse, and if Kaios are also considered Glinds).

Goku's battle with Glorio has been the most Goku-like he's been since the show started.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm

One of the worst episodes so far. Goku vs Glorio movement felt slow. It isn't well directed at all.
There are some cool shots, but animation wise there is nothing impressive in this episode.

The slow pacing is taking a toll on me. When's Dragon Ball Daima Kai?! :lol:
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Post by PerhapsTheOtherOne » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:54 pm

Guess I'm just easy to please, as I had fun with this episode!

It was cool to see the Glinds get elaborated on further. The part about them being born from a tree was kept in, but seeing it expanded to show it as 5 trees was quite interesting. Also neat to see Shin's godhood get addressed, though I do wonder if that means that their godliness happened because of them ascending to fill that role similar to the Gods of Destruction.

And now we see Glorio's true allegiance to Dr. Arinsu here. It'll be interesting to see this play out. Also cool to see that Glorio finally lost a bit of his temper with Son Goku, only for him to be put in his place because Goku's just that much better than him even as a kid.

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Post by tinlunlau » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:56 pm

The minotaur reminded me of Mr Satan for some odd reason. Lol

In other news, a lot of McDonald's commercials today for obvious reasons. $39 Hong Kong dollars is actually a very good price for the Dragon Ball Daima meal. That's five American dollars!

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Post by DBFanGuy » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:07 pm

So is the tree in the demon realm? Making Shin a demon?

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Post by tinlunlau » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:20 pm

From what I gather, Kaiohshin is asexual. 🤔
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Post by Jiren The Alpha » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:26 pm

DBFanGuy wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:07 pm So is the tree in the demon realm? Making Shin a demon?
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Post by tonysoprano300 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:59 pm

Felt more like a filler episode, but i had fun. Its nice to know that even when the show is at its worst, its not completely boring. If nothing else I laughed at the gags and enjoyed the bickering. I do think most of the complaints here are valid though. Maybe its just me but after years of getting the formulaic DB screaming matches, its hard for me to genuinely feel bothered by a DB story that’s just focused on having fun in this new wonderland. Which is probably wrong, maybe when the show is over I can be more objective about it.

Its also oddly satisfying to know that Goku is at the top of the pecking order again, given what Kai said about him being “The strongest in the universe as far as he knows” idk what it was about Super but the idea of him being perpetually superseded by Gods and Angels with almost no meaningful progression towards catching them felt very strange. I want to present hurdles for Goku, so that he can eventually clear/overcome then and not be perpetually stuck below them. Idk if I'm reading too much into that comment though, its possible he may only be referring to mortals but…it didn’t feel that way.

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