Will Vegeta get SSJ4

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Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by super michael » Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:36 am

I know it is a huge feat that Vegeta gained SSJ3 from training, but I wonder if Vegeta will be able to gain SSJ4.
If Vegeta gains SSJ4, who knows maybe SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta might eat the fusion bug to fuse into a new powerful SSJ4.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:19 pm

I think the chances of this happening are slim to none, and I have no issue with that. Vegeta just got a form fans wanted to see for 30 years, and on top of that he got one of his best animated fights in the series. As a Vegeta fan, I got way more than ever expected out of Daima. Ssj4 was always Goku's form in GT, as Vegeta and Gogeta were pretty much tacked on at the end and left no impact on anything. With this being Toriyama's ( as of now) final project, I think it's fitting for this seemingly isolated Buu arc epilogue to end with Goku on top once again, as he was pretty outmatched by Gohan and Gotenks at the end of the Buu arc.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Trouser » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:36 pm

There's no time for Vegeta SSJ4 to be introduced, there's only one episode left. If Daima is going to be connected to Super then maybe later we'll get a Vegeta SSJ4 in one of Toyotarou's non-canon stories.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by AliTheZombie13 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:41 pm

Daima has a bad habit of doing cliffhangers on new form reveals, so yeah... No SSJ4 for Vegeta, sorry.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by TechExpert2021 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:43 pm

I don't think Vegeta will get SSJ4, because it's too late to introduce the form since Daima will end this Friday on episode 20.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:55 pm

Trouser wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:36 pmMaybe we'll get a Vegeta SSJ4 in one of Toyotarou's non-canon stories.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by FiReFTW » Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pm

Nope, obviously its common knowledge by now that Vegeta is a 2nd fidle in Dragonball and Goku is always one step ahead, he is just a sidekick like Robin, always gets screwed over, so I'm pretty sure no SSJ4 for him.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:02 pm

FiReFTW wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pmVegeta always gets screwed over, so I'm pretty sure no SSJ4 for him.
How is not getting Ssj4 = getting screwed over ? Ssj3 has been on fans' wish list for him for decades, and he finally got it. On top of that, he got two of his best fights using the form. Vegeta gave Ssj3 its credibility back.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by TheRed259 » Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:32 pm

If Super Dragon Ball Heroes was still ongoing then there would be a good chance that we could see Vegeta using this new version of SSJ4.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Chuquita » Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:44 pm

I don't think there's enough time left for it.

Maybe if they decide to use fusion he'll get to at least experience it though Gogeta or Vegetto.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Peach » Mon Feb 24, 2025 4:15 am

Maybe in season 2

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:23 am

Maybe SS4 Goku still struggles a bit against Gomah, so Neva gives Vegeta an upgrade too. I could see that happening, and maybe even a fusion at the end.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Jord » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:34 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:02 pm
FiReFTW wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pmVegeta always gets screwed over, so I'm pretty sure no SSJ4 for him.
How is not getting Ssj4 = getting screwed over ? Ssj3 has been on fans' wish list for him for decades, and he finally got it. On top of that, he got two of his best fights using the form. Vegeta gave Ssj3 its credibility back.
SSJ3 Vegeta was already in Heroes and even Raging Blast 2 a long time ago.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:36 am

Jord wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:34 amSSJ3 Vegeta was already in Heroes and even Raging Blast 2 a long time ago.
Everyone in Heroes had Ssj3; that's not the same as seeing it in one of the best animated projects in the franchise, written by the original author himself.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Yuji » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:41 am

Chuquita wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:44 pm I don't think there's enough time left for it.

Maybe if they decide to use fusion he'll get to at least experience it though Gogeta or Vegetto.
I think at this point there is no fusion or it will be a gag like fusing Shin with Kibito again.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Vegeta th3 4th » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:44 am

Ssj3 Vegeta got a whole episode to himself, so the same will happen for Ssj4 Goku. Fusion will take too much time away from him and even Piccolo.

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Basaku » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:04 am

Vegeta th3 4th wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:02 pm
FiReFTW wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:59 pmVegeta always gets screwed over, so I'm pretty sure no SSJ4 for him.
How is not getting Ssj4 = getting screwed over ? Ssj3 has been on fans' wish list for him for decades, and he finally got it. On top of that, he got two of his best fights using the form. Vegeta gave Ssj3 its credibility back.
It's very simple - Vegeta fans, thanks to GT, Heroes, video games and especially Super, basically became accustomed to Vegeta pokemoning every single transformation out there along with Goku or getting an equivalent (Instinct/Ego). Generally being treated as the defacto co-lead. So they cannot phantom anymore NOT getting SSJ4.

Not just a problem of Vegeta of course, it's merly an (almost) copy of all the Goku Time issues the show been struggling heavily every since Toriyama made the sudden u-turn from Gohan in the Buu arc.

In short, when one or another character starts getting everything, then their fans complain whenever they don't get something, not even thinking that characters like 18, Tien, Goten, Trunks or Krillin got nothing

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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:15 am

I wouldn't mind of it happened in Daima Episode #20. It isn't like it would be undercutting an arc for Gokuu. I kind of doubt that it'll happen, though, because I assume that they'll just want to focus on animating cool shots for Super Saiyan 4 Gokuu (Adult).
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by BernardoCairo » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:39 pm

Basaku wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:04 amIt's very simple - Vegeta fans, thanks to GT, Heroes, video games and especially Super, basically became accustomed to Vegeta pokemoning every single transformation out there along with Goku or getting an equivalent (Instinct/Ego). Generally being treated as the defacto co-lead. So they cannot phantom anymore NOT getting SSJ4.
True. In Dragon Ball Super, they're meant to be equals. It's part of the show's overall theme. But I don't think we necessarily need that in every DB project.
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Re: Will Vegeta get SSJ4

Post by Makaioshin » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:49 pm

They seem to be promoting his SSJ3 pretty heavily so that is just his big new"step in this.

There also doesn't seem to be enough time left though all it would takes would be Neva noticing him. Maybe he will at least ask and be rejected so we can learn what Daima SSJ4 is supposed to be.

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