So Hit is starting to lose to Dyspo cos Dyspo is too fast for his Time Skip. We all know Hit isn't just Time Skip, he has other skills and has the ability to "adapt", as he adapted to SSB KKX10 Goku.
Goku suddenly jumps into the fight and says I'm taking Dyspo from here. Hit never asked him to do that, he just did it. Even though Hit isn't part of Gokus team. Hit kind of looked confused as to what's going on.
Meanwhile, when Kale shot an energy blast at Goku, supporting her own team mate and distracting him , Goku was like can you not interfere in my fight with Caulifla, K thx. And expected her to listen. Can you imagine if it worked that way, you could just tell the opposition team members to butt out, I want a 1 on 1, and then they just obey you. Goku did learn from his experience with Krillin and 18 that this is a royal rumble , team mates can try to help each other. So Kale has more of a right to interfere with Goku vs Caulifla than Goku did with Hit vs Dyspo.
Want another example? I've got it. When Goku was fighting Jiren and Goku was losing, Vegeta suddenly flies in and challenges Jiren! Goku then protests. But Goku did the same thng to Hit. And again Vegeta has more of a right to do that as Goku is also on U7, neither Hit or Dyspo is on U7.
Especially considering that Ribriannne or Brianne De Chateau , asked Goku what he plans to wish for, he said I don't know something for my sons I guess. - He didn't say he'd wish anybody back, so he's seemingly fine with anyone not from U7 dying, so he's really only interfering with Hit's fight for the thrill of fighting. But to Goku, only he is entitled to do that to others. Nobody is entitled to jump into his fights.
Yeah I found Anime Goku super unlikeable by the ToP.
Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
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Re: Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
Goku is a hypocrite
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Goku has been wildly inconsistent with his rules of engagement. Generally, he and the rest of the Z Fighters only fight one-on-one, no matter how strong the enemy. He makes an exception to fuse with Vegeta to fight Super Buu, since Buu was a fused being then. After Buu becomes his pure, "Kid" form, he stubbornly breaks the Potara Earrings, because it wouldn't be "fair" to fight Buu with a fusion.
At first, Super's Goku seems to be consistent with this rule, when he only fuses with Vegeta to fight Fused Zamasu, but then he goes and breaks that rule to fight Broly as Gogeta. Then, in Daima, he breaks the number one rule of engagement and tells everyone to gang up on Gomah. Even when he achieves Super Saiyan 4, he's perfectly fine with the underhanded tactic of drawing Gomah's attention, while Piccolo deals a sneak attack.
Who are you, and what did you do with Goku!?
At first, Super's Goku seems to be consistent with this rule, when he only fuses with Vegeta to fight Fused Zamasu, but then he goes and breaks that rule to fight Broly as Gogeta. Then, in Daima, he breaks the number one rule of engagement and tells everyone to gang up on Gomah. Even when he achieves Super Saiyan 4, he's perfectly fine with the underhanded tactic of drawing Gomah's attention, while Piccolo deals a sneak attack.
Who are you, and what did you do with Goku!?
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Re: Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
Against Raditz the reason why Goku didn't want Kuririn and Master to fight was because they wouldn't be able to get revived if they die, but he didn't have any problem with Piccolo joining the fight.
Against Vegeta the reason why Goku chose to fight alone, is because Gohan and Kuririn are so low, that they would get in the way. However when Goku couldn't fight anymore, he didn't mind Gohan and Kuririn joining the fight and giving his Genki Dama to Kuririn. He was coaching Gohan in his Oozaru form, telling him who to focus on.
Against the Ginyu force the same, Kuririn and Gohan powers were far too below, that they would get in the way. However Goku (Ginyu body), Gohan and Kuririn they were fighting against Ginyu (Goku body).
In the Cell Saga that was a tourmanet, so that is understandable to be 1 vs 1.
Against Vegeta the reason why Goku chose to fight alone, is because Gohan and Kuririn are so low, that they would get in the way. However when Goku couldn't fight anymore, he didn't mind Gohan and Kuririn joining the fight and giving his Genki Dama to Kuririn. He was coaching Gohan in his Oozaru form, telling him who to focus on.
Against the Ginyu force the same, Kuririn and Gohan powers were far too below, that they would get in the way. However Goku (Ginyu body), Gohan and Kuririn they were fighting against Ginyu (Goku body).
In the Cell Saga that was a tourmanet, so that is understandable to be 1 vs 1.
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Re: Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
I don't think Goku has ever operated under "rules", just sheer vibes. His character generally makes more sense when you view it that way, lol.
I interpret his decision to interrupt Hit's fight with Dyspo as a mild diss against Hit for being overwhelmed by a fairly jobberific opponent (though Dyspo was better than he looked). IIRC, Kunshi from Team U11 was also involved, so it became a fairer 2-v-2 match. Goku and Vegeta were both eyeing a potential rematch against Hit, so they wanted to keep him around in the tournament for their amusement, though Jiren quickly proved himself to be "the new Hit".
Against Broly, Goku could have continued pushing himself individually but beyond the obvious marketing appeal of Gogeta's "canon" debut, there were a couple semi-valid reasons why he made an exception to fuse against an un-fused opponent. Firstly, Broly is portrayed as a freak of nature whose power climbs faster than they can keep up with. Secondly, the Toriyama-penned films specifically have a theme of teamwork; Goku was reluctant to embrace it in BoG, he and Vegeta refused it in RoF and failed spectacularly as a result, so I guess Broly represented them finally learning this lesson to some degree. Goku is also suffers some kind of competitive brainrot whenever a tournament setting is involved and he suddenly gets more fastidious about his rules (sorry, vibes) and pushing himself to his limits. There was no tournament in Broly.
I interpret his decision to interrupt Hit's fight with Dyspo as a mild diss against Hit for being overwhelmed by a fairly jobberific opponent (though Dyspo was better than he looked). IIRC, Kunshi from Team U11 was also involved, so it became a fairer 2-v-2 match. Goku and Vegeta were both eyeing a potential rematch against Hit, so they wanted to keep him around in the tournament for their amusement, though Jiren quickly proved himself to be "the new Hit".
Against Broly, Goku could have continued pushing himself individually but beyond the obvious marketing appeal of Gogeta's "canon" debut, there were a couple semi-valid reasons why he made an exception to fuse against an un-fused opponent. Firstly, Broly is portrayed as a freak of nature whose power climbs faster than they can keep up with. Secondly, the Toriyama-penned films specifically have a theme of teamwork; Goku was reluctant to embrace it in BoG, he and Vegeta refused it in RoF and failed spectacularly as a result, so I guess Broly represented them finally learning this lesson to some degree. Goku is also suffers some kind of competitive brainrot whenever a tournament setting is involved and he suddenly gets more fastidious about his rules (sorry, vibes) and pushing himself to his limits. There was no tournament in Broly.
Re: Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
Goku likes to fight fair, if that option's on the table. He lives for the tournament match. If that option's not on the table (Raditz, Gotenks/Gohan-Boo), or it seemed like it was but he's clearly lost the fair fight (Vegeta, Freeza, Cell, Pure Boo, Broly), and the stakes are life and death, he will pull out cheap shit to survive and save everyone rather than just dying in battle out of a stubborn commitment to the 1v1 (2v1 & Makankosappo, Genki Dama, his son's anger, Fusion, etc.). This is neither complicated nor confusing, and it is pretty consistent.
As for him butting into other peoples' 1v1s, yeah, that's kinda hypocritical. Turns out that despite being a pretty good dude, Goku's a selfish guy! We been known this. That's partly what makes him funny and interesting to me. He's a lovable prick.
As for him butting into other peoples' 1v1s, yeah, that's kinda hypocritical. Turns out that despite being a pretty good dude, Goku's a selfish guy! We been known this. That's partly what makes him funny and interesting to me. He's a lovable prick.
Re: Goku's double standard on jumping into fights.
Goku remains a child at heart, just like any other child that says they'll share their toys and then don't, or those that tell others to share and then they don't share theirs. He is the birthday boy. Hardly something introduced at the ToP, hardly something cartoonish or unheard of in real life either.
About teaming up or fusing, I don't see anything new here. Goku is a fair fighter but he is also not retarded (when it comes to fighting), why would he chose to die instead of survive, out of some sense of fairness? Broly was way out of their league and out of his mind to not seek out an immediate alternative, waiting on UI to light up was not an option.
Had he died, people would be hating on him for being too strict with his made up rules, a selfish dick prioritizing his own fun over Earth and his family and friends(does it ring a pre-android arc bell?), but now they hate him for being practical and not a 2D character, lol, the game is rigged against him. I'm still amazed at people complaining about characters acting like real people like it's a bad thing.
About teaming up or fusing, I don't see anything new here. Goku is a fair fighter but he is also not retarded (when it comes to fighting), why would he chose to die instead of survive, out of some sense of fairness? Broly was way out of their league and out of his mind to not seek out an immediate alternative, waiting on UI to light up was not an option.
Had he died, people would be hating on him for being too strict with his made up rules, a selfish dick prioritizing his own fun over Earth and his family and friends(does it ring a pre-android arc bell?), but now they hate him for being practical and not a 2D character, lol, the game is rigged against him. I'm still amazed at people complaining about characters acting like real people like it's a bad thing.