"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[Scsigs]

If you only have one of that Super Soul and have it equipped to a character (even if it's saved on a preset), you can't use it on a different character. You can check how many you have available by checking your bag on the pause menu (not the changing equipment menu, there's a "Bag" button in there somewhere).

As for Beast, it's not a race-specific form, much like Potential Unleashed. There's no indication it's a Super Saiyan form or anything, but it is sorta funny that any random Time Patroller can whip out what's supposed to be Gohan's unique transformation... but it's Xenoverse, so I wouldn't read into it too much.

Huh. Well, that's dumb. I don't understand why that is. At all. If you're playing as 1 character who has it equipped, that shouldn't lock it from the others on your save file. It doesn't lock you out of clothes or attacks you can equip between characters. Also, it's really hard to get more of that specific Super Soul. It's only unlockable in specific events & I'm not gonna need another after I'm done getting the last 2 transformations. I'm not gonna need more than 1.

I mean, Gohan uses it, it looks like a Super Saiyan form, it's brought on by his anger like Super Saiyan, & everything around it is like when he went Super Saiyan 2. I'm willing to bet you ask any random person who's seen the movie & they'd consider it one. For all intents & purposes it is a Super Saiyan form & Gohan's equivalent to Super Saiyan Blue or Ultra Instinct.
Yeah, it is funny to think about. It's just weird that they can. And, I don't really like that excuse that because it's Xenoverse, we shouldn't think too hard about what they put into it. Especially when it comes to the game mechanics. Every other transformation in the game follows what's been put in the shows, movies, & manga. They keep an internal consistency with them where Kaioken, Potential Unleashed, & Ultra Instinct are usable by any race (because anyone can learn those), the Super Saiyan forms are usable by Saiyans only, that stupid Power Pole & Nimbus cloud combo is only for humans, growing giant is only for Namekians, Golden Form is only for Freeza Races (they really should think up a name for them), & Purified is for Buus. It just doesn't make sense why Beast is usable by every race. I mean, I'm not complaining because it's the most powerful form in the game, but it's just really confusing.

Good luck. Years ago I went for Platinum and the last missing trophy for me is the tutorial battles. The input lag and timing in this game is so bad, that I decided not to invest more time in it as I got stuck on like the last few combo strings

I got that achievement a while ago. Took way too goddamn long because the shit wouldn't pop at first, but it did eventually. They seemed to have fixed achievements not unlocking in the 9th gen console port, so that's good.

[Anime Kitten]

Huh. Well, that's dumb. I don't understand why that is. At all. If you're playing as 1 character who has it equipped, that shouldn't lock it from the others on your save file. It doesn't lock you out of clothes or attacks you can equip between characters. Also, it's really hard to get more of that specific Super Soul. It's only unlockable in specific events & I'm not gonna need another after I'm done getting the last 2 transformations. I'm not gonna need more than 1.

I mean, Gohan uses it, it looks like a Super Saiyan form, it's brought on by his anger like Super Saiyan, & everything around it is like when he went Super Saiyan 2. I'm willing to bet you ask any random person who's seen the movie & they'd consider it one. For all intents & purposes it is a Super Saiyan form & Gohan's equivalent to Super Saiyan Blue or Ultra Instinct.
Yeah, it is funny to think about. It's just weird that they can. And, I don't really like that excuse that because it's Xenoverse, we shouldn't think too hard about what they put into it. Especially when it comes to the game mechanics. Every other transformation in the game follows what's been put in the shows, movies, & manga. They keep an internal consistency with them where Kaioken, Potential Unleashed, & Ultra Instinct are usable by any race (because anyone can learn those), the Super Saiyan forms are usable by Saiyans only, that stupid Power Pole & Nimbus cloud combo is only for humans, growing giant is only for Namekians, Golden Form is only for Freeza Races (they really should think up a name for them), & Purified is for Buus. It just doesn't make sense why Beast is usable by every race. I mean, I'm not complaining because it's the most powerful form in the game, but it's just really confusing.

It's because Super Souls are considered "equipment" which you have a limited number of, and it does apply to clothes as well. Skills are universal across all characters, which doesn't necessarily make much sense, but it's better than having to go through all the mentors and grind the PQs for every single character. (Even if you do need to do that for Super Souls and outfits...)

This is what the Dragon Ball Super manga (Viz translation) has to say on the matter of Beast:

Spoiler:

So, I dunno, but what I mean by "it's Xenoverse" is that your CAC is somehow able to defeat powered-up versions of some of the most powerful characters in the series, including Goku himself in Ultra Instinct form, without even transforming - see the Infinite History story. It's all just self-insert stuff which is why I don't think that hard about things like random characters not named Gohan being able to go Beast. Even in that list of unique forms for different races... the Earthlings' one isn't something that couldn't be done by a Saiyan, considering Goku is the one who used those items in the series proper!

[MCDaveG]

I got that achievement a while ago. Took way too goddamn long because the shit wouldn't pop at first, but it did eventually. They seemed to have fixed achievements not unlocking in the 9th gen console port, so that's good.

Which trophy or trophies are you missing?

[Scsigs]

I got that achievement a while ago. Took way too goddamn long because the shit wouldn't pop at first, but it did eventually. They seemed to have fixed achievements not unlocking in the 9th gen console port, so that's good.

Which trophy or trophies are you missing?

Base game, just doing the Krillin milk deliveries (which I only have to do 2 more times) & the one for getting all of the awoken skills. Then I'm done with that one. I still have some DLC ones, but those are dumb, so I'll get to them if I feel like it in the future.

It's because Super Souls are considered "equipment" which you have a limited number of, and it does apply to clothes as well. Skills are universal across all characters, which doesn't necessarily make much sense, but it's better than having to go through all the mentors and grind the PQs for every single character. (Even if you do need to do that for Super Souls and outfits...)

That's just really stupid. Whoever thought that was a good idea shouldn't be allowed to pitch ideas for these games anymore.

[Scsigs]

Finally got the achievement for doing 10 milk runs for Krillin.

Quick rant: This game's RNG is...really bad when it comes to these. I spent close to an hour trying to get this through the usual method people recommend (doing Yamcha's introductory mission over & over because it's really quick to do) & didn't get it. Then, I reset the game by closing out of & re-opening it, got the milk run after another 26 minutes, then reset the game again after that & got it pretty quickly after that (within 5-10 minutes, I think).
WHY is this like this? It's so dumb.

Also, since it was the final base game achievement I got, the one for completing the base game achievements (Bye Bye, Xenoverse) should've popped right after, but for some reason, I had to restart the game again to get it to do it. I swear, the achievements are so weird int his game in terms of when they pop. Most are delayed several seconds while the game not only saves what you did to the system, but also to whatever server they have for it, then some don't pop at all for some reason unless you restart the game.

Also, something to say about the achievement for getting all of the awoken skills.
I really hate that the game makes you redo all of the tutorials with each new character you make. WHY do we need to do them again? We did them already, so the game SHOULD recognize that & skip them on the new characters. I really don't get why they programmed it like that & why they haven't patched it to fix it. I swear, the process of getting them would be MUCH faster if we didn't have these forced tutorials after the first character created.

[IntangibleFancy]

Do you guys think the current story in Future Saga is going to end up leading into something interesting? What with Fu seemingly going crazy, seeing something that spooked him in the future, and conton city being destroyed.

Ideally, I'm hoping Fu either unleashes something he was not prepared for and we get something new like a brand new villain or even a legion of those villains from DBH (they need a home now that the game is dead lol). OR, in his madness, he actually starts creating cool what-if scenarios the player needs to work out leading to new forms, characters, and team ups? There're so many possibilities, but the coolest parts of the DLC is always just the cgi cutscenes

but realistically I can see the story just being one of those situations where the future Fu is trying to prevent is ultimately revealed to be caused by him, the player snaps him out of it, the TP is back to playing cat and mouse with him, and all we get out of it is a change in status quo like we got after infinite history (this time it's the new supervillain form Fu controls people with in Future DLCs and a new mode taking place at whatever that crater in Conton gets rebuilt too)

[Bardock God of Time]

Xenoverse 2 was added to Xbox Game Pass

[Scsigs]

Xenoverse 2 was added to Xbox Game Pass

That makes sense. Surprised it took this long, tbh. Shame they didn't make XV1 available on it too, though.

[L3anD3RStar]

I would LOVE to play Fu’s villainous missions but they’re co-op only and nobody is ever online when I am. So sorry Fu. I’d love to be your test subject and figure out what you’re up to but nobody else is up this PST so we’re both not gonna get what we want.

[The S]

New Demon Realm characters? Finally adding Kaiōshin (either form)? FUCK THAT WE GOT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SAIYANS

[Xaroc]

Next Characters who get a Festival Move in the next Festival of Universes in XV2 will be:
SSJ God Gokuu
Gamma 1
Gamma 2
Videl (Super).

New Super Souls (eventually):
Neva ("???"): At the Start of the Battle: temp. boosts all OPPONENTS Attacks (M). Shortly after Battle starts: temp. drains Opponents Stamina. Auto Target Ki Blast Type.
Great Witch Marba ("???"): At the End of the Battle: Zenni at the End of Missions: randomly 0x, 3x, 7x or 10x and Exp at the End of Missions: randomly 0x, 3x, 7x or 10x. Bomb Ki Blast Type.
King Gomah ("???"): temp. boosts all Damage once by 1.5 when using a Super, once. temp. boosts all Damage once by 1.5 when using an Ultimate, once. Stun Ki Blast Type.

SSJ4 Gokuu (Daima)'s Super Soul ("Here I come!"): at the start of the Battle: all Damage temp. reduced (XL). temp. Stamina Recovery increased.
Ultra Vegeta 1 (Daima)'s Super Soul ("Damn it all!") : when Health below 25%, once: temp. increases all Damage (XL). temp. activates Auto Ki Recovery.

New colorable Outfits (eventually):
Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai Tenkaichi)
Angol (Paragas' Goon)
Ribrianne
Santa Claus
Kakunsa
Rozie
Bulma (Kid).
Some of them might only be for certain Bodyparts.

New NPC now at the Dragon Ball Altar:
Sarasa summons Shenlong in exchange for STP Medals (80 STP per Dragon Ball you are missing, 560 STP for all 7).
You can not wish for Zenni or regular TP Medals when doing this.

Mentor Gokuu: has now access to SSJ4 Gokuu (Daima)'s Super Soul. No new Moves atm.
Mentor Vegeta: has now access to Ultra Vegeta 1 (Daima)'s Super Soul. No new Moves atm.

I play in German, so some Infos might be lost/changed in Translation or I misunderstood something.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Another game in which the new characters aren't dubbed. The strange thing is, they went back and added new dub lines to the old characters reacting to Daima's, so it's not that the actors weren't available to provide new lines. Regular Goku comments about Vegeta hiding Ssj3 from him, yet his Daima Ssj4 is stuck with the Japanese voice. What the hell is going on ? The show has already been dubbed, so that's not the reason.

[Scsigs]

Another game in which the new characters aren't dubbed. The strange thing is, they went back and added new dub lines to the old characters reacting to Daima's, so it's not that the actors weren't available to provide new lines. Regular Goku comments about Vegeta hiding Ssj3 from him, yet his Daima Ssj4 is stuck with the Japanese voice. What the hell is going on? The show has already been dubbed, so that's not the reason.

Again, I do think it's the current video game VA strike that's going on. A lot of voice actors want protections from companies using AI replicas of their voices, especially without permission, & even non-union VAs don't wanna go against the union because not only are they friends with union VAs, but they may not wanna upset the union & jeopardize their careers, but also some of them may have hopes of joining the SAG at some point. It's like Fortnite using an AI replica of James Earl Jones' voice for Darth Vader partly because he's dead, but also so they can circumvent the strike by not using a soundalike. I believe Sean Schemmel's a union VA at this point & some of the newer VAs they've hired for newer stuff are also union VAs, plus some of the other ones they've had for a while have joined the union, so I think that's the reason why.
It's probably also why this DLC doesn't contain the next chapter in the Future Saga. They may be waiting for the strike to get over with so they can have the English VAs record their lines for it since they probably don't wanna have any story content not voiced in English. PQs don't really count since they're a collection of what-ifs & optional content.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Again, I do think it's the current video game VA strike that's going on.

But the voice actors dubbed new lines for the older characters in the game, just not Daima. Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat dubbed new lines for the other Goku and Vegeta versions reacting to the Daima ones, but for some reason the Daima ones aren't dubbed. If the strike was the cause, they wouldn't be able to dub any new lines period. I guess they could be contractually obligated to dub for characters they already dubbed, but that seems unlikely.

[Jord]

Again, I do think it's the current video game VA strike that's going on.

But the voice actors dubbed new lines for the older characters in the game, just not Daima. Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat dubbed new lines for the other Goku and Vegeta versions reacting to the Daima ones, but for some reason the Daima ones aren't dubbed. If the strike was the cause, they wouldn't be able to dub any new lines period. I guess they could be contractually obligated to dub for characters they already dubbed, but that seems unlikely.

We dont know when those new lines you mention were recorded.

[Scsigs]

I agree. Generally, lines will be recorded a while in advance of a release so the devs can program them into the game. Much like Sparking Zero's first DLC, it's very possible those lines were recorded before the strike might've affected Bandai Namco's games. Although, this isn't foolproof & we still don't know what happened 100% for sure. It's very weird that apparently only the Daima stuff is affected while the pre-Daima stuff isn't.

[Jord]

Heck, a lot of DBZ games have lines that were ultimately unused, such as for characters that had story modes planned. I would not be surprised if they recorded a ton for this game and are drip feeding recorded lines in the game to keep it feeling fresh.

I can imagine how annoying it is for fans of the English dub to download the DLC and find out the voices are only Japanese for now. They should mention that before buying.

I think the only people that have the answers are the English VO people, but I think they can't talk about it due to the strike.

[Scsigs]

Heck, a lot of DBZ games have lines that were ultimately unused, such as for characters that had story modes planned. I would not be surprised if they recorded a ton for this game and are drip feeding recorded lines in the game to keep it feeling fresh.

I can imagine how annoying it is for fans of the English dub to download the DLC and find out the voices are only Japanese for now. They should mention that before buying.

I think the only people that have the answers are the English VO people, but I think they can't talk about it due to the strike.

I tried tagging Chris Sabat & Daman Mills on Twitter to ask them about it a few days ago, but they haven't responded.

Yeah, exactly. We also have to look at how Xenoverse 2 is produced. The Japanese voiceovers are recorded first, then the English VAs record the lines in English months later with no visuals to inform their performances & very basic or poor voice direction notes, plus listening to the Japanese voice lines to match the timing & trying to match the performances as best as possible. We don't know exactly how long after the Japanese dialogue gets recorded that that is on average, but it's definitely after the Japanese lines are recorded & probably after most of the cutscene work is done. The lines for non-cutscenes & PQs, I can see them getting them to record first since they don't need the actors to match specific timings & they can be free to give more of their own takes on the lines as long as they fit in context.
Then, because these are the Daima characters & the English dub was over a month behind the Japanese dub's airing for no reason, the Japanese lines would've been recorded months prior to the airing possibly during the recording of the show while the English voices would've had to have been recorded when they were recording the dub & maybe didn't have certain characters cast. Hence why new voice lines from returning characters already in the game are done, but not the Daima ones. I don't know if this excuses the complete lack of English lines for the Daima characters since Sparking Zero also suffers from this discrepancy for some reason, but it's a possible explanation.

The English VAs may also have been contracted to provide voices for the characters before Daima, but have to sign new or revised contracts for the Daima characters, which they aren't want to do right now because of the strike. Since those contracts would've been signed way before the strike to record for these games, they would've been contractually obligated to do them. Daima, even though it was announced back in 2023 wasn't added to the games' contracts until it came time to actually MAKE the DLCs for them, so they don't have a contract to record the lines for them in English. The SAG can't fuck over their actors or any others who signed contracts way before any strikes for ongoing projects like video games & the actors can't back out even if they wanted to, or they may be sued for breach of contract. This would explain the partially-recorded lines for characters already in the games (from the shows & films made before Daima), but no lines in English for the Daima ones in XV2 & SZ & since there's subtitles in the games anyways, they figure people can just make do until they can put the voice lines in them. I imagine Bandai's trying to settle things on their end to get the actors under SAG & the others not to be able to sign contracts to do the lines so they can record & patch them in. This means, barring them putting any Daima characters in the story of the next Future Saga chapters, the actors would have to record the new voice lines for them & they may write around the Daima characters to exclude them from the stories if they're made before the strike ends as a result.

I'd also love if they could rerecord all of Vic Mignogna's Broly lines in XV2 with Johnny Yong Bosch, but I don't see that happening, unfortunately.

I hope I've made SOME sense of all of this mess. I don't know what's going on behind closed doors since there's been no details by the people involved, but I imagine when the strike eventually ends, we'll get a full explanation from some of them.

[WittyUsername]

It’s insane that this game is still continuing to pump out content. When this game was first released, the Future Trunks saga wasn’t even finished airing in Japan and Barack Obama was still President of the United States, and now the game has a Daima DLC. It really seems like there is no intention of making a third game.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

It’s insane that this game is still continuing to pump out content. When this game was first released, the Future Trunks saga wasn’t even finished airing in Japan and Barack Obama was still President of the United States, and now the game has a Daima DLC. It really seems like there is no intention of making a third game.

If you compare the game we got in 2016 to the game we have now, then it's basically a 3rd game in everything but name.