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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by Scsigs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:58 am

mecha3000 wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:04 am Y'know, as someone born in '97 who grew up mainly with Funimation's replacement cast, is it just me or do I think, well, it's time to just give up on this dub ever releasing? I admit I'm biased for having grown up with the replacement cast, but to me, we already have the Kai English dub through Funimation's version. I get the appeal of wanting to hear the Ocean actors get the Kai treatment, but even Brian Drummond admitted he didn't go as hard for the screams as he did back in the day. And at the very least, we got to hear him return as Copy Vegeta.

As someone who's been campaigning for Funimation and now Crunchyroll to dub Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return, Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, and Episode of Bardock, I realize that time has passed and it's no longer anywhere near Crunchyroll's interest to dub those. And then there's the rights issues regarding the 2008 special being from Shuiesha. But yeah, I think it's time to just move on from waiting for this because even if it got aired, we'd never get an official home release anyway. I know all the episodes would be archived by fans, though, so that'd be nice, but again, it doesn't seem like it will ever air.

On the other hand, as someone who deeply loves the Kai part of the DB franchise for getting me back into it when I was 13 back in 2010, it is nice to see that after the waiting for the Kai Buu Saga dub kept Kai alive, now Ocean Kai is doing the same thing. But unlike the Buu Kai dub, the Ocean Kai dub seems to have ZERO chance of ever releasing. Some things we just have to let go, I think. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but that's just my two cents. I mean, this thread only ever gets updated after a random Ocean actor says an off hand comment and someone reports that as news. I'm probably sounding very callous right now, but it is what it is.

I mean, even the fact that this thread was retitled to add "Still Unreleased" speaks VOLUMES.
Ocean Kai is just sitting on a hard drive somewhere in Ocean's HQ. I feel like the only way it'll eventually get out is from either a data leak from a hacking or someone at Ocean leaking it on to torrenting websites. I know people have wanted this to air on Canadian TV, but considering this is a decade & a half old dub, Toei doesn't see any use in releasing it because the US cast has become the default & definitive English cast for them, & they don't see the point in having more than 1 English dub of the series, plus no Canadian TV stations seem that interested in actually airing it, I think it's time the holdouts give up. I'd love to hear it too, but it's just not realistic at this point.

Yo Son Goku & His Friends Return will never be licensed or dubbed, I'm sorry, man. Otherwise it would've been by now. It was contracted & made for an anime tour, Toei animated it & their voice cast supplied the voice recordings, & Shueisha also owns part of the rights to it because it was made for an anniversary thing where they had a bunch of OVAs made for anime productions of their mangas. If those rights issues could be resolved to license & dub it, I think they would've by now 16 years later. Especially because it's a fan favorite.
Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, I'm surprised wasn't dubbed for Raging Blast 2, which it was animated for & they even had an English voice for Hachiyack in it. Same with Episode of Bardock for DBZ For Kinect. Even if they're not that great, it's always baffled me that they were never dubbed into English for those games even if they couldn't release them on regular Blu-Rays over here. They'd have the dubbing tracks & they're not that long, so I'd think it would've been a no-brainer to have the crew at FUNimation dub the OVAs when the voice actors were recording their lines for the games. I think that certainly would've sold a few more copies of DBZ For Kinect since that game was a flaming pile of dogshit otherwise that needed all the help it could get.

Buu Kai was always going to get released. It just didn't right away because Toei apparently wanted a TV airing & the only channel that could; Toonami, was busy getting through the first 98 episodes first, otherwise it would've come out much quicker.
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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:17 am

I've lost all faith in this dub ever coming out.

Sure, it would have been nice to hear Drummond and McNeil again, and even Carol Anne Day as Bulma, but the chances of this ever coming out are so, so, so SLIM.
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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:24 am

If we just stop bumping this thread, nobody would really think about this thing lol
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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:31 am

JulieYBM wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:24 am If we just stop bumping this thread, nobody would really think about this thing lol
Well, as Diana Gage said herself fans should make their voices heard and let it be known they want to see this dub. As I recall Anime Time Machine said the same thing at the end of one of their livestreams. Basically nothing is a guarantee but discussion about this dub and how it could potentially be seen never hurts.

It's been said on here that as long as Ocean doesn't destroy the masters there is always a chance, however slim, that this dub will see the light of day. I'll never give up wanting it to be seen, although I understand the difficulty with having any faith at this stage.

It really is a shame that WOW Unlimited's linear channel never launched as that was the golden opportunity, or if Toon-A-Vision had the money TOEI was likely asking for the license.

And no, it will never let it leak. Saffron Henderson said in one of the livestreams that would never happen because Ocean are very strict about properties that belong to other companies (such as TOEI) and not themselves.
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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by Kirbopher » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:08 am

I interviewed Scott and we talked about it. He remembered nothing of significance or about anything we didn't already know, which was what I expected.

But, here's your one nugget: I had him perform this scene we've never heard him perform as Piccolo, using the Kai script.

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Post by dbzforeverUK » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:57 pm

Such a sad state of affairs for this dub, i was hoping it would have been released in some form. Surely there is a way that it can still see the light of day?

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Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15; Still Unreleased

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:37 pm

dbzforeverUK wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:57 pm Such a sad state of affairs for this dub, i was hoping it would have been released in some form. Surely there is a way that it can still see the light of day?
Yeah, it's unfortunate because Ocean are not a distributor they have always been at the mercy of whatever channels their Kai dub could potentially be sold through. Sadly all of them have either had no interest, been unable to launch (WOW Unlimited) or likely didn't have the money for the license (Toon-A-Vision).

I'm no fan of digital releases, but I'd happily pay if Ocean were able to get the episodes up on some online store seen as how Crunchyroll will never want to promote a competing dub by putting it on home video.
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Post by M0nsoon07 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:52 am

Hi, I'm new here! Huge Dragon Ball fan, and also probably youngest here haha (i'm 18!)

I've been trying to get the ocean dub to air- I think DB Ireland mentioned this but recently been pitching a revived 'Toonami UK' Friday night block to Adult Swim Europe/UK, with the ocean dub as the main show, alongside others!

Unfortunately, our meeting got cancelled due to illness and has yet to be rescheduled :(

I've also been emailing the heads of Ocean- although haven't heard back and it's been a month (I think!). I connected with someone else who works for Ocean (audio engineer) on LinkedIn and they also seem interested in my idea.

Anyways, let's hope my meeting does get rescheduled before I start uni in September!

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Post by Tian » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:49 pm

M0nsoon07 wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:52 am Hi, I'm new here! Huge Dragon Ball fan, and also probably youngest here haha (i'm 18!)
Welcome to Kanzenshuu!
I've been trying to get the ocean dub to air- I think DB Ireland mentioned this but recently been pitching a revived 'Toonami UK' Friday night block to Adult Swim Europe/UK, with the ocean dub as the main show, alongside others!
Oh yeah, I remember DBI mentioned something like that in this thread back in April.
Unfortunately, our meeting got cancelled due to illness and has yet to be rescheduled :(

I've also been emailing the heads of Ocean- although haven't heard back and it's been a month (I think!). I connected with someone else who works for Ocean (audio engineer) on LinkedIn and they also seem interested in my idea.

Anyways, let's hope my meeting does get rescheduled before I start uni in September!
Don't worry, health is important. Hopefully it gets rescheduled and the pitch turns out to be successful.

Regarding the audio engineer, that sounds good. At this point the Kai dub may not be a major priority for Ocean but maybe the audio engineer can help bring back the matter to the table.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:46 pm

Welcome to Kanzenshuu M0nsoon07. I know we talked on Discord about this, but it's great to see your helping spread awareness about Ocean Kai and making valuable contacts in the industry.

I'll echo what Tian said, as while I'm sure Ocean have tried on and off over the years to get their Kai dub out there and probably feel discouraged at this stage a polite reminder here and there that the demand for it is there is fine.

Best of luck with your pitch whenever it is. We almost had this dub when WOW Unlimited were in negotiations to get it on the air in Canada, but the larger population of the UK would mean a wider audience for this dub.
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Post by M0nsoon07 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:00 am

I agree! And thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

It would also be great to show the blue water dubs of GT and DB as well, if we could of course!

I really do hope I hear back- I’ve emailed the second in command at Adult Swim Europe as I know the head mentioned he’d be at a work conference at some point so maybe that’s why he couldn’t reschedule instantly- although that was about 2 months ago haha.

Even if my idea only lasts a year or so, to have the full run of the ocean dub of DBZ Kai aired would be great- especially for those who like recording and then uploading on like Internet Archive or YouTube.

Who knows, maybe if the ocean dub of DBZ Kai does well, then they could do Ocean Super?! :lol:

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Post by LostTimeLord » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:10 pm

M0nsoon07 wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:52 am recently been pitching a revived 'Toonami UK' Friday night block to Adult Swim Europe/UK, with the ocean dub as the main show, alongside others!
I don't think that Adult Swim is an actual broadcaster in the UK. There's ostensibly an Adult Swim programming block which airs on E4, but that's just a block of programmes that Warner Bros have licensed out to Channel 4. For Adult Swim UK to run a US-style Toonami block, they'd have to acquire the rights to a bunch of non-Warner content and then sub-license those rights to Channel 4. That's a bunch of extra complication which I just don't see being worth the effort for Adult Swim or Channel 4.

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Post by M0nsoon07 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:16 pm

Hi!
Well from their emails with me, they do seem interested in my idea!
I received a reply- they're hoping to reschedule the meeting as soon as possible.
This is a small snippet from their reply: 'Sorry again for the delay but we are really interested to hear your ideas and are looking forward to speaking with you.'

We'll see what happens, hopefully positive!
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Post by SX10 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:36 am

M0nsoon07 wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:16 pm Hi!
Well from their emails with me, they do seem interested in my idea!
I received a reply- they're hoping to reschedule the meeting as soon as possible.
This is a small snippet from their reply: 'Sorry again for the delay but we are really interested to hear your ideas and are looking forward to speaking with you.'

We'll see what happens, hopefully positive!
Thanks!

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I am sure it may be of interest to point them in the direction of anime.time.machine on instagram - https://www.instagram.com/anime.time.ma ... 4dWNqNA==

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Also it provides a taste of how the show may conceptually sound and feel, also try:

Audio here: https://youtu.be/5auRWZjyliE?si=jJ4MFCEiJppcoppN

and here: https://youtu.be/GZXBiWwtm-o?si=fzkIunzQBGrVnSMv

If you need em, and you have to dm me, I can provide screenshots of communications with the Toei DBZ license holder from previous years confirming dub's existence and the often ignored enthusiasm in Lisa's correspondence to discuss airing the product. A few new dubs for Kai are still being produced and released aren't they? Toonami UK have a strong connection to the Ocean product, big fan history. It's a fresh, yet nostalgic take on a show that is now itself an older product. It's at home on Toonami UK.

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Post by M0nsoon07 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:12 pm

Thank you!! It means a lot that I've been welcomed so warmly!

Haven't had the meeting yet but hoping to hear soon from Adult Swim Europe with a date for our meeting.

Thanks for the info!! It will be amazing if we can air the ocean dub version of Kai! :D

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Post by manbearpig34 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:05 am

All I can say is that I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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Post by M0nsoon07 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:35 pm

My meeting has been delayed again to August sadly... hopefully it does happen eventually!
No reply from heads of Ocean either- but still in contact with that engineer! His last message to me (18 days ago!) was this: 'We’ll keep on chasing it Louis, eventually something will give. Cheers!'

They want it as much as we do... surely it's gotta happen at some point! :D

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:52 am

Man, those clips are so good, and it's wonderful the actors were willing to do them for us fans. I've heard people say Brian Drummond in the late 90s was perfection, but if his voice in these and Copy Vegeta in Super is anything to go by I'm expecting his work on Kai to be even better. Karl Willems did say "Kai was fucking awesome" after all.
manbearpig34 wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:05 am All I can say is that I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Ditto.
M0nsoon07 wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:35 pm My meeting has been delayed again to August sadly... hopefully it does happen eventually!
No reply from heads of Ocean either- but still in contact with that engineer! His last message to me (18 days ago!) was this: 'We’ll keep on chasing it Louis, eventually something will give. Cheers!'

They want it as much as we do... surely it's gotta happen at some point! :D
It's great to hear that the people at Ocean are on our side, even if they don't have the power to help get it out.

Really hope your meeting goes ahead M0nsoon07, a UK broadcast of this dub is so long overdue and really should have happened when Kix started airing Kai.
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Post by M0nsoon07 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:18 am

Thanks again for all of your support- it means a hell of a lot! :D
Haha, imagine this....
One winter 2025 night... E4 is on the TV (where adult swim uk is shown).... 9pm hits and the voiceover guy says: 'Toonami is back, and our first show is a fan-favourite with a twist...'
BAM... ocean dub of Kai starts playing. :lol: :lol:

In all seriousness though, it could definitely happen, this topic name would have to be changed though (Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15/16; FINALLY RELEASED)!!

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:24 am

M0nsoon07 wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:18 am Thanks again for all of your support- it means a hell of a lot! :D
Haha, imagine this....
One winter 2025 night... E4 is on the TV (where adult swim uk is shown).... 9pm hits and the voiceover guy says: 'Toonami is back, and our first show is a fan-favourite with a twist...'
BAM... ocean dub of Kai starts playing. :lol: :lol:

In all seriousness though, it could definitely happen, this topic name would have to be changed though (Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 15/16; FINALLY RELEASED)!!
If the day comes where I don't need to update the thread title anymore, I don't know how to handle that lol
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