Scsigs wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:19 am
I don't see your logic, sorry, bro.
No, I don't remember that saga in 2002 because I didn't watch DBZ as it aired on TV, nor was I in the UK, sorry. I caught some episodes here & there, but wasn't watching most of it & got into DB mainly because of the video games. I watched more of OG DB, the Z movies, & GT on TV than I did Z. But, that as far as I can tell was more them switching to the Ocean cast produced episodes because some company paid for & greenlit them dubbing the episodes & it was probably cheaper than licensing the FUNi dub, not them airing both dubs because they wanted to show both.
My point was the fact both dubs of the Fusion saga aired on CNX is well documented, its been discussed to death in this very thread, so even if you weren't following talk about the broadcast online at the time it's not hard to be aware of the situation. Granted I'm sure not everyone who posts in this thread reads every post or absorbs all the information, because there is a lot to take in, especially if your not well versed in Ocean dub lore.
And yes, as far as we're aware CNX did air the Funimation Fusion saga originally only to phase it out in favour of the Westwood episodes because the former was too expensive to license long term and the latter may not have been available in its entirety at the time. I never said they wanted to show both dubs.
Scsigs wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:19 am
The answer to that question would be because they have it readily available to them & it matches what's on the home releases. If you have 1 dub airing on TV, but another on home media, you create confusion amongst those who don't know better (which, let's be honest, would be a LOT of people). Lots of TV shows & movies get reran on TV all the time even if they have DVDs or Blu-Rays, so why air THOSE on TV still? See how the logic doesn't quite hold up?
Considering this proposed Toonami block is aiming more for adult audiences I don't think we would need to worry too much about a different dub of Kai causing confusion. The fans can easily find information about both dubs online, and the fact Ocean's dub was recorded between 2010 and 2014 but never saw the light of day is even more reason for it to be given a chance because it never had one to begin with, despite a lot of work being put into it.
Another thing to consider is streaming services are so big nowadays that any traditional TV channel or block would need to take advantage of its smaller size and operations to serve a more intimate customer base. One way they could do this would be regular fan engagement on social media. As it would be a niche TV block it would be easier to respond to more fan questions and comments than a major streaming service. Manga UK used to reply to fans regularly on Facebook, Twitter, etc as they were a smaller company before they were bought by Funimation and later rebranded to Crunchyroll. We don't see the UK branch of Crunchyroll (which used to be Manga UK) communicate with any of their fans now, likely because there is too much to handle.
Even assuming that some of the fans watching Kai on Toonami UK were confused a different dub was being aired than what's available on Crunchyroll's streaming service and the home releases a rep for the block could easily say "We purchased the Ocean dub because our block is retro-themed and we thought a dub featuring the cast UK fans grew up with between 2000 and 2005 would be a great fit".
YTV in Canada also aired the Westwood dub of Dragon Ball Z while Funimation's VHS and DVD releases were on store shelves (during the physical media boom no-less) and fans seemed fine with that. Why would fans nowadays be any different, especially when its easier than ever to watch another dub if you don't like the one that's being offered?
Besides once the Ocean dub of Kai airs and is out there it can finally be recorded and preserved by fans, meaning future generations of Dragon Ball fans will have the option of two different English dubs to try out, which can't be a bad thing. Variety is always good.
Scsigs wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:19 am
We're in an age of streaming where TV stations' viewerships are at an all time low overall. Maybe they would wanna try to boost them with something like that, but it's a very niche thing. Airing that dub WOULD be nice for people nostalgic for the Ocean dub of Z over there, but that's a very small group of people. Like the people who think the original version of Z & its dub are superior to Kai & its dub, I don't think some people in this fandom really realize how big of a group those are. And, WOULD a lot of people even tune into that? It'd probably do a lot better on streaming because then people could binge it rather than having to wait week to week to get more pieces of it over a year & a half & also watch it uncut. Like, if Netflix licensed it, they could offer both the FUNi & Ocean dubs as options so people could watch the one they like more for instance.
As I said above, being a smaller business is not always a bad thing. If a revived Toonami UK plays their cards right they could use it to their advantage by offering a more personalized experience than a major streaming service like Crunchyroll or Netflix could realistically do. Traditional TV is never going to be as big as it was in the 90s and 2000s, but it doesn't have to be, because this revived Toonami block would be aiming for a smaller, dedicated audience of anime fans that want a more customer-friendly experience.
Yes Netflix could theoretically purchase and offer both the Funimation and Ocean dubs, but we've tried reaching out to them about this before and its harder because they are a much larger company who are no doubt flooded with emails, DMs, etc on a daily basis and would never realistically be able to get to all of them.
), Sky for a channel like Sky Max or smth (they said my idea was great, but didn't have enough anime content themselves to make a block out of it), and finally That's TV (aired again haha!)
