Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[AlexSketchy04]

Now wait just a minute here...
With all this talk of alternate OP's, BGM, and whatnot... was there ever going to be an uncut version of this dub?

Crazy to know they still have seasons 1-2 sessions, although, I don't know why they are on tape when the show was always recorded digitally to disk using the DAR Soundstation, unless mixing needed to be done with a different equipment.

I said 1997-ish – I don't actually know if they have the Saban-era sessions. I would guess they don't – but they might. Certainly everything from the Pioneer movies onward, they would have. They might have stuff from as far back as Saban season 2, since Ocean was brought in as a producer, but season 1, Ocean was just the recording studio I believe. They did always distribute the show to Canada in that era, so it's not impossible they also have the season 1 recordings... but I doubt it.

I think that also includes S1 stuff, as the Canadian opening features the character soundbites used in Rock the Dragon, and that came in way later (I'm not sure if those were pulled from episodes, or were recorded as part of the opening)

[M0nsoon07]

Update- still not heard from the Adult Swim Europe people about that meeting, despite them saying they'd be in contact in August. It's a shame but can't be helped.

I'm going to put my whole idea on a backburner for now as I start university in less than a month (a degree in Game Design- my other passion!)

In other news, for a potential Canada showing, the channels owned by Wildbrain will be shutting down soon...

[Tian]

Update- still not heard from the Adult Swim Europe people about that meeting, despite them saying they'd be in contact in August. It's a shame but can't be helped.

Don't worry. Even though there couldn't be a meeting, I still appreciate all the effort you made.

I'm going to put my whole idea on a backburner for now as I start university in less than a month (a degree in Game Design- my other passion!)

I wish you good luck and success in your studies!

In other news, for a potential Canada showing, the channels owned by Wildbrain will be shutting down soon...

Yeah, TV in Canada is going through some financial issues. No wonder why Corus made the decision to discontinue some of their channels. Hopefully it gets better.

[Robo4900]

Never knew before, but I guess aside from acting there might not have been that much to even look forward to.

Better actors, specific music that isn't stolen, almost certainly better-written scripts...

(BTW, I realize you're no longer a regular here, but I wonder if you have time for one other small topic...)

Send me a PM or something, I do log in from time to time.

I think that also includes S1 stuff, as the Canadian opening features the character soundbites used in Rock the Dragon, and that came in way later (I'm not sure if those were pulled from episodes, or were recorded as part of the opening)

Hard to say. I think for season 1, Ocean was the recording studio, but no production involvement, so no reason to store the recording tapes with Ocean, so no reason for them to have it today.

[Tian]

Yeah, TV in Canada is going through some financial issues. No wonder why Corus made the decision to discontinue some of their channels. Hopefully it gets better.

Okay, I take that back. The current situation of TV in Canada is getting worse. Nelvana has just recently closed its doors. An animation studio and a international distributor are now gone.

Here in Latin America, Nelvana was known for having distributed the first five seasons of Fairy Odd Parents, Sakura Card Captors and Bakugan. They'll be missed.

[Yellow Flower King]

Yeah, TV in Canada is going through some financial issues. No wonder why Corus made the decision to discontinue some of their channels. Hopefully it gets better.

Okay, I take that back. The current situation of TV in Canada is getting worse. Nelvana has just recently closed its doors. An animation studio and a international distributor are now gone.
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Here in Latin America, Nelvana was known for having distributed the first five seasons of Fairy Odd Parents, Medabots (Because Cardcaptor Sakura was distributed by Cloverway, same as DB) and Bakugan. They'll be missed.

Fix'd. Fairy Odd Parents was also notable because they only did the ACTUALLY GOOD seasons.

[Tian]

Yeah, TV in Canada is going through some financial issues. No wonder why Corus made the decision to discontinue some of their channels. Hopefully it gets better.

Okay, I take that back. The current situation of TV in Canada is getting worse. Nelvana has just recently closed its doors. An animation studio and a international distributor are now gone.
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Here in Latin America, Nelvana was known for having distributed the first five seasons of Fairy Odd Parents, Medabots (Because Cardcaptor Sakura was distributed by Cloverway, same as DB) and Bakugan. They'll be missed.

Fix'd. Fairy Odd Parents was also notable because they only did the ACTUALLY GOOD seasons.

Oh, thanks for the correction. I mixed it up with the English dub of Cardcaptors.

I went to check more articles about Nelvana's "closing" and according to a recent article posted today, it looks like that only the animation division will be shut down. From now on, They'll just focus in the international distribution division (Good news for some, bad news for others).

[funrush]

The title of this thread is insane. It really never ever came out or got leaked.

Do we know how much of the show was recorded? It's kind of crazy to me to spend a bunch of money paying VAs to make a whole new dub only to can it, but I guess that's show business.

[JulieYBM]

The title of this thread is insane. It really never ever came out or got leaked.

Do we know how much of the show was recorded? It's kind of crazy to me to spend a bunch of money paying VAs to make a whole new dub only to can it, but I guess that's show business.

I'll be inevitably updating the thread title in January lol

I believe that they recorded up through Episode #97-98?

[Tian]

Do we know how much of the show was recorded? It's kind of crazy to me to spend a bunch of money paying VAs to make a whole new dub only to can it, but I guess that's show business.

According to Chinook Animation (a casting agency from Calgary that works with Ocean), they recorded all the 98 episodes of Kai.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Do we know how much of the show was recorded? It's kind of crazy to me to spend a bunch of money paying VAs to make a whole new dub only to can it, but I guess that's show business.

According to Chinook Animation (a casting agency from Calgary that works with Ocean), they recorded all the 98 episodes of Kai.

For some reason it's no longer on their database, but at one point all 98 episodes of Kai were approved by the CRTC as Canadian content. Brian Drummond has also said on more than one occasion that he finished working on Kai. In any case I think it's safe to say episodes 1-98 were dubbed, but not The Final Chapters.

Just catching up on this now, but I must thank you M0nsoon07 again for trying to get this dub out with your idea. It's truly a shame it has never seen the light of day, but it's good to know there are still fans, like several of us in this thread who care.

[Tian]

For some reason it's no longer on their database, but at one point all 98 episodes of Kai were approved by the CRTC as Canadian content. Brian Drummond has also said on more than one occasion that he finished working on Kai. In any case I think it's safe to say episodes 1-98 were dubbed, but not The Final Chapters.

I personally doubt that if Ocean Kai ever gets released, a Ocean dub of the Final Chapters will follow.

You know, since they already used the recording rights that allowed the creation of this alternate dub in first place.

[LostTimeLord]

You know, since they already used the recording rights that allowed the creation of this alternate dub in first place.

What do you mean by this? We don't actually know much about the arrangement between Ocean/Toei/Funimation, do we? It seems plausible that they would have dubbed The Final Chapters if the first 98 episodes had paid off.

[M0nsoon07]

No worries DBIreland. I tried my best! it's a shame I could never have that meeting- who knows, may happen during uni instead.

I really want this dub to release somehow- would be great to see Buu Kai get ocean dubbed too.

In terms of potential ways, the Head of acquisitions and the director of channels for ITVX and the head of programming at BBC iPlayer have accepted my LinkedIn request- so maybe I can try them, if we went a streaming route. But also the head of normal linear channels at ITV has also accepted my request. This will be my last shot probs before uni but sent all 3 a quick message about my ideas.

[Tian]

What do you mean by this? We don't actually know much about the arrangement between Ocean/Toei/Funimation, do we?

Even years after the Westwood and Blue Water dubs were produced, Ocean still had recording rights to record anything of Dragon Ball for Canadian and European distribution.

But since these rights were about to expire by the early 2010s and a renewal wasn't a option, they decided to make use of them as soon as possible for Kai.

[Scsigs]

You know, since they already used the recording rights that allowed the creation of this alternate dub in first place.

What do you mean by this? We don't actually know much about the arrangement between Ocean/Toei/Funimation, do we? It seems plausible that they would have dubbed The Final Chapters if the first 98 episodes had paid off.

Maybe, maybe not. TFC was put together specifically because things like the FUNimation dub were praised & a lot more people became fans of the franchise thanks to Kai existing, especially with some better dubs (not just English from what I understand, but also French & Portuguese because those were treated as gag dubs back in the day & the dub teams corrected them with Kai). If the Canadian dub aired, it'd get ratings in Canada & maybe some other countries in Europe if they licensed it, but it wouldn't get a disc release because the old Canadian dubs didn't & the FUNi dubs are what are on disc in Europe. Unless if the dub REALLY took off, I don't see it, tbh.

[LostTimeLord]

But since these rights were about to expire by the early 2010s and a renewal wasn't a option,

Is this known, or is it speculation? What do we actually know about Ocean's Dragon Ball license?

it wouldn't get a disc release because the old Canadian dubs didn't & the FUNi dubs are what are on disc in Europe.

I wasn't talking about a disc release. It simply stands to reason that if a channel had aired Ocean Kai, and it had met expectations, that they would want to use the same dub for the second half.

[Tian]

Is this known, or is it speculation?

It started out as a speculation but then was confirmed by Ocean's Diana Gage.

What do we actually know about Ocean's Dragon Ball license?

Not much besides that FUNimation doesn't have anything to do with it. They weren't involved in any way in Ocean Kai's production. Their only relation was they borrowed the edited masters from Ocean for the Nicktoons broadcast and that's all.

If I recall correctly, besides Ocean and Toei, there was this company named IPP involved in this dub. Maybe Robo4900 or SX10 can confirm or correct this.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

If I recall correctly, besides Ocean and Toei, there was this company named IPP involved in this dub. Maybe Robo4900 or SX10 can confirm or correct this.

NitroEX asked Dale Wilson about this, and IPP basically is Ocean, just not the company's recording division:

"IPP is pretty much the same as Ocean.Ocean's the studios and IPP is Kens
production company i guess you could call it.Contracts were all signed with IPP
hope this helps"

[Tian]

NitroEX asked Dale Wilson about this, and IPP basically is Ocean, just not the company's recording division:

"IPP is pretty much the same as Ocean.Ocean's the studios and IPP is Kens
production company i guess you could call it.Contracts were all signed with IPP
hope this helps"

Thanks! Yes, I looked it up now and you're right, they're the same thing but in different departments. I found that Ian James Corlett has commented something similar in the past:

I heard of this. It’s a weird anomaly of distribution rights or something… I think IPP/Ocean sound has the Canadian rights to record shows, so it’s independent of Funimation. But alas I won’t be doing them if IPP has anything to do with the production.