Unpopular DB opinions

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

The US DBZ Dragon Boxes are overrated. Way to expensive nowadays, the audio sync with some episodes is off and it just looks meh visually. I sometimes find the Orange Bricks look better to me. I don't have the US DBZ Dragon Box but i don't like it either.

I think the Marathon play feature found on the Blue/Orange/Green Bricks is a great idea. It's not perfect but it's a damn good feature.

I think the way the Super Manga ended should be the end. Piccolo waving at the audience just works for me. Gohan came full circle and it allows for other adventures or end of Z to happen. It's time to let this franchise rest.

I don't want anything more. I'm not against more but I don't think I need it.


Kai and DBZ Kakarot should of used more of the og DB material. The skipping of og DB Drives me crazy.

That's it.

Honestly, even though i have the FUNi Z Dragon Boxes myself and they are prized, cherished items in my Dragon Ball collection ever since i recently got Seed of Might’s CC release for all three of the original series (but DBZ in particular) i just can’t go back. The amazing color correction and inclusion of the Japanese broadcast audio makes it the definitive version and my go to means of viewing the entire original anime run going forward. That, and all of the English dub options for all three series is effectively the ultimate archive experience.

[Scsigs]

The US DBZ Dragon Boxes are overrated. Way to expensive nowadays, the audio sync with some episodes is off and it just looks meh visually. I sometimes find the Orange Bricks look better to me. I don't have the US DBZ Dragon Box but i don't like it either.

I think the Marathon play feature found on the Blue/Orange/Green Bricks is a great idea. It's not perfect but it's a damn good feature.

I think the way the Super Manga ended should be the end. Piccolo waving at the audience just works for me. Gohan came full circle and it allows for other adventures or end of Z to happen. It's time to let this franchise rest.

I don't want anything more. I'm not against more but I don't think I need it.


Kai and DBZ Kakarot should of used more of the og DB material. The skipping of og DB Drives me crazy.

That's it.

Honestly, even though i have the FUNi Z Dragon Boxes myself and they are prized, cherished items in my Dragon Ball collection ever since i recently got Seed of Might’s CC release for all three of the original series (but DBZ in particular) i just can’t go back. The amazing color correction and inclusion of the Japanese broadcast audio makes it the definitive version and my go to means of viewing the entire original anime run going forward. That, and all of the English dub options for all three series is effectively the ultimate archive experience.

If we're being honest, the Dragon Boxes were the best for the time. It helped that FUNi put out their first abysmal remaster with the Orange Bricks. Even almost 20 years after the Orange Bricks first came out, we still have yet to receive an actually GOOD remaster from FUNi, Crunchyroll, or even Toei because FUNi wanted to make money off stupid people & people who don't actually care about the integrity of the picture quality of what they're watching, Crunchyroll's just fine lazily regurgitating FUNi's old releases under their logo in rereleases, & Toei's too cheap to wanna properly remaster the first 3 DB shows into HD. To this day, the best remaster we have for Z is Kai &, even then, it has major caveats with half the footage cut out, redrawn frames, censorship, & the last arc being both cropped to 16:9 & having an annoying green tint because Toei can't set their white balances to save their lives when it comes to Dragon Ball content. All Toei would have to do is scan the episodes into their computers (presumably, they already did this back in 2002 when they began cleaning up the series for the JP Dragon Boxes) in 1080p or 4K, color correct & white balance the footage, & clean it up of any dirt, scratches, & whatever else that shouldn't be there while leaving an acceptable amount of grain to retain quality. They can do it. They remastered all of Showa Kamen Rider into HD, which is MORE episodes & less movies & specials than Dragon Ball has that at the time made far less money than Dragon Ball because it wasn't a global franchise at the time they did so. They can comfortably afford to properly remaster the first 3 Dragon Ball series into HD, even if they outsource it to another company that specializes in doing that. The fact that it took Seed of Might remastering them from the DBox footage is disgraceful.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

The US DBZ Dragon Boxes are overrated. Way to expensive nowadays, the audio sync with some episodes is off and it just looks meh visually. I sometimes find the Orange Bricks look better to me. I don't have the US DBZ Dragon Box but i don't like it either.

I think the Marathon play feature found on the Blue/Orange/Green Bricks is a great idea. It's not perfect but it's a damn good feature.

I think the way the Super Manga ended should be the end. Piccolo waving at the audience just works for me. Gohan came full circle and it allows for other adventures or end of Z to happen. It's time to let this franchise rest.

I don't want anything more. I'm not against more but I don't think I need it.


Kai and DBZ Kakarot should of used more of the og DB material. The skipping of og DB Drives me crazy.

That's it.

Honestly, even though i have the FUNi Z Dragon Boxes myself and they are prized, cherished items in my Dragon Ball collection ever since i recently got Seed of Might’s CC release for all three of the original series (but DBZ in particular) i just can’t go back. The amazing color correction and inclusion of the Japanese broadcast audio makes it the definitive version and my go to means of viewing the entire original anime run going forward. That, and all of the English dub options for all three series is effectively the ultimate archive experience.

If we're being honest, the Dragon Boxes were the best for the time. It helped that FUNi put out their first abysmal remaster with the Orange Bricks. Even almost 20 years after the Orange Bricks first came out, we still have yet to receive an actually GOOD remaster from FUNi, Crunchyroll, or even Toei because FUNi wanted to make money off stupid people & people who don't actually care about the integrity of the picture quality of what they're watching, Crunchyroll's just fine lazily regurgitating FUNi's old releases under their logo in rereleases, & Toei's too cheap to wanna properly remaster the first 3 DB shows into HD. To this day, the best remaster we have for Z is Kai &, even then, it has major caveats with half the footage cut out, redrawn frames, censorship, & the last arc being both cropped to 16:9 & having an annoying green tint because Toei can't set their white balances to save their lives when it comes to Dragon Ball content. All Toei would have to do is scan the episodes into their computers (presumably, they already did this back in 2002 when they began cleaning up the series for the JP Dragon Boxes) in 1080p or 4K, color correct & white balance the footage, & clean it up of any dirt, scratches, & whatever else that shouldn't be there while leaving an acceptable amount of grain to retain quality. They can do it. They remastered all of Showa Kamen Rider into HD, which is MORE episodes & less movies & specials than Dragon Ball has that at the time made far less money than Dragon Ball because it wasn't a global franchise at the time they did so. They can comfortably afford to properly remaster the first 3 Dragon Ball series into HD, even if they outsource it to another company that specializes in doing that. The fact that it took Seed of Might remastering them from the DBox footage is disgraceful.

Yeah, and even well before SOM’s color corrected release had started coming out i was surely fine with the Dragon Boxes for DBZ, the Blue Bricks for Dragon Ball and the original single discs for GT even with their flaws as the best available options at the time a few years ago. It really is shameful that such dedicated fans have done a banger job on something the people in the very company that made the show back then simply don’t care to do themselves when they clearly have the resources, and FUNimation (now CR) dropped the ball numerous times when they could’ve almost surely done a good remaster themselves i.e. the Level BD’s (for something that was sourced from multi gen film masters the video quality was legit good) which unfortunately fizzled out two sets in because FUNi overloaded the market with a bazillion releases back in 2011, and again with the 30th anniversary set a few years later in 2019 which was more or less the previous BD release uncropped but the same in basically every other respect.

[Scsigs]

Yeah, and even well before SOM’s color corrected release had started coming out i was surely fine with the Dragon Boxes for DBZ, the Blue Bricks for Dragon Ball and the original single discs for GT even with their flaws as the best available options at the time a few years ago. It really is shameful that such dedicated fans have done a banger job on something the people in the very company that made the show back then simply don’t care to do themselves when they clearly have the resources, and FUNimation (now CR) dropped the ball numerous times when they could’ve almost surely done a good remaster themselves i.e. the Level BD’s (for something that was sourced from multi gen film masters the video quality was legit good) which unfortunately fizzled out two sets in because FUNi overloaded the market with a bazillion releases back in 2011, and again with the 30th anniversary set a few years later in 2019 which was more or less the previous BD release uncropped but the same in basically every other respect.

They also turned down the brightness so it doesn't hurt your eyes as much when watching more than a few seconds of the footage, but that's about it. It's otherwise the same remaster before they cropped the episodes, yeah. Even then, though, they still cropped the episodes into the square frame. They have versions of the episodes they remastered themselves that were affected by this that have more picture showing. Even Kai wasn't cropped so badly in the 4:3 versions of the first 98 episodes.

Yeah, even the remaster done with the duplicated prints was infinitely better than what they pumped out afterwards. They gave Z such a shit remaster in search of profits rather than honoring the series that put them on the map as a dubbing company, it's fucking ridiculous.

[The Dark Knight]

It's time to let this franchise rest.

This franchise is 30 years past when it should've been allowed to rest.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Yeah, and even well before SOM’s color corrected release had started coming out i was surely fine with the Dragon Boxes for DBZ, the Blue Bricks for Dragon Ball and the original single discs for GT even with their flaws as the best available options at the time a few years ago. It really is shameful that such dedicated fans have done a banger job on something the people in the very company that made the show back then simply don’t care to do themselves when they clearly have the resources, and FUNimation (now CR) dropped the ball numerous times when they could’ve almost surely done a good remaster themselves i.e. the Level BD’s (for something that was sourced from multi gen film masters the video quality was legit good) which unfortunately fizzled out two sets in because FUNi overloaded the market with a bazillion releases back in 2011, and again with the 30th anniversary set a few years later in 2019 which was more or less the previous BD release uncropped but the same in basically every other respect.

They also turned down the brightness so it doesn't hurt your eyes as much when watching more than a few seconds of the footage, but that's about it. It's otherwise the same remaster before they cropped the episodes, yeah. Even then, though, they still cropped the episodes into the square frame. They have versions of the episodes they remastered themselves that were affected by this that have more picture showing. Even Kai wasn't cropped so badly in the 4:3 versions of the first 98 episodes.

Yeah, even the remaster done with the duplicated prints was infinitely better than what they pumped out afterwards. They gave Z such a shit remaster in search of profits rather than honoring the series that put them on the map as a dubbing company, it's fucking ridiculous.

Yes, and the most baffling thing about how much they’ve dropped the ball on DBZ in particular is how they could’ve done less work and the releases would’ve been undoubtedly better than they turned out as IRL rather than unnecessarily over complicating things and making the end product objectively worse. The Orange Bricks could’ve just as easily been done using the existing digibeta tapes that were used for the previous single disc releases albeit with fix ups for better quality, and then later on with the 2013 BD’s could’ve simply released the masters that were already scanned for the Level sets instead of making them effectively the Orange Bricks 2.0 or done more or less the same with the 30A set after that. No, they needlessly made the aforementioned releases worse because the suits were operating with misguided, out of touch views regarding the market and the fans therein.

It’s funny how DBZ is the one part of the overall saga they’ve continuously screwed up on to varying degrees, and yet for the most part the other parts (OG DB, GT.etc) have had decent acceptable releases.

[Doctor Seaweed Roll]

SuperSaiyaManZ94,Yellow Flower King, & GTx10 i know that the broadcast audio was junked & sounds better

[BernardoCairo]

While fighting is the core of Dragon Ball, and I love games like Dragon Ball FighterZ, I’d really like to see the series branch out more.
I was looking at that Mario Kart parody Toyotaro did in the manga and couldn’t stop thinking about how fun a Dragon Ball kart racer would be. Imagine something in the style of Mario Kart, but with special moves as items, ki blasts instead of shells, maybe even transformations as temporary boosts. It just feels like such a natural fit.
I know there *have* been a few Dragon Ball games that step outside of fighting or RPGs, but they’re pretty rare. It’d be nice to see more experiments like that, something that leans into the world and characters in a different way. Anything beyond the usual formula would honestly be a really welcome surprise.

[Hellspawn28]

DBH characters like Cumber comes off as some OC that a kid would write and be like "He can one shot every Super Saiyan in his base form" on the playgrounds.

[The Dark Knight]

DBH characters like Cumber comes off as some OC that a kid would write and be like "He can one shot every Super Saiyan in his base form" on the playgrounds.

This applies to a lot of characters who came out of this modern era, whether in Heroes or Super.

[Scsigs]

DBH characters like Cumber comes off as some OC that a kid would write and be like "He can one shot every Super Saiyan in his base form" on the playgrounds.

I mean, yeah. Heroes is literally a game that takes everything from all over the Dragon Ball franchise as well as makes new characters & puts them in a toy box for the people who play it to play with. The logic for everything that happens in it doesn't go much beyond, "Put guy in so other guy can fight him." It's just that simple.

[Doctor Seaweed Roll]

While fighting is the core of Dragon Ball, and I love games like Dragon Ball FighterZ, I’d really like to see the series branch out more.
I was looking at that Mario Kart parody Toyotaro did in the manga and couldn’t stop thinking about how fun a Dragon Ball kart racer would be. Imagine something in the style of Mario Kart, but with special moves as items, ki blasts instead of shells, maybe even transformations as temporary boosts. It just feels like such a natural fit.
I know there *have* been a few Dragon Ball games that step outside of fighting or RPGs, but they’re pretty rare. It’d be nice to see more experiments like that, something that leans into the world and characters in a different way. Anything beyond the usual formula would honestly be a really welcome surprise.

There's a ROM hack for Mario Kart 64 you might want to try
https://n64squid.com/homebrew/roms/dragon-ball-kart-64/

[Mr Baggins]

DBH characters like Cumber comes off as some OC that a kid would write and be like "He can one shot every Super Saiyan in his base form" on the playgrounds.

This is a rather cold take, friend. Cumber is one of the edgiest official designs in Dragon Ball history.

Probably my least popular opinion is that Resurrection 'F' is a good (not great, but good) DB film.

[The Dark Knight]

Probably my least popular opinion is that Resurrection 'F' is a good DB film.

Here's an even less popular opinion: Battle of Gods is the only Dragon Ball movie that's good; everything else falls between bad and average. Before everyone screams "BUT BROLY!!!!!", what does that movie have besides its good visuals ? Broly is basically a prettier Resurrection F.

[Jord]

Probably my least popular opinion is that Resurrection 'F' is a good DB film.

Here's an even less popular opinion: Battle of Gods is the only Dragon Ball movie that's good; everything else falls between bad and average. Before everyone screams "BUT BROLY!!!!!", what does that movie have besides its good visuals ? Broly is basically a prettier Resurrection F.

I agree. The previous (Z-era) films can be fun to watch for a fan, but if you aren't familiar with the series, the movies completely fall apart due to storytelling, pacing, deus ex machina endings and such.

[The Dark Knight]

The previous (Z-era) films can be fun to watch for a fan, but if you aren't familiar with the series, the movies completely fall apart due to storytelling, pacing, deus ex machina endings and such.

What makes those movies easier to sit through than something like Resurrection F is their short runtime, as most of them were between 50-60 minutes. I also really, REALLY like the designs for the villains of those older movies; they're some of my favorite designs Toriyama has ever put out. Another highlight of those movies is the classic art style; I just vastly prefer it over the more cartoony/plastic look of the modern era of anime. Despite these points though, I do agree with you that they really can't be enjoyed unless you're invested in the main story.

[BernardoCairo]

Broly is basically a prettier Resurrection F.

To be honest, Fukkatsu no F wishes it were even 10% as good as Broly.
The biggest difference is focus. Broly sticks to its core idea, the three surviving Saiyajins and how their stories connect, and everything in the film builds around that. In Fukkatsu no F, the premise is Freeza’s return, but the film doesn’t stay with him for long. It keeps cutting back to Goku and Vegeta, so it never really settles on a clear center.
That also affects how the story is set up. Broly takes its time with the backstory and with Broly himself, which gives weight to what’s happening later. In Fukkatsu no F, the resurrection is just there to get things going, and the film moves on without really developing it.
You can feel the difference in how both movies flow. Broly moves naturally between dialogue and fights, while Fukkatsu no F drags in places because it keeps cutting to side characters who don’t change anything. There are more people involved, but most of them don’t matter to the outcome.
The ending makes this even clearer. In Broly, the escalation is straightforward: Vegeta fights, then Goku, then the fusion. It builds step by step. In Fukkatsu no F, the final stretch relies on constant reversals. Goku loses so Vegeta can take over, then Vegeta loses so Goku can come back, and then the time rewind resets everything. It ends up feeling disconnected from the rest of the fight.

As for Super Hero, it’s not all bad. It has its issues, but it holds together better in some aspects. The focus is more consistent, even if it shifts later on. It probably would have worked better if Piccolo had stayed as the sole protagonist, but the dialogue and the comedy still land better than in most recent entries (except Battle of Gods).

[JulieYBM]

Super Broly's major weaknesses are 1) not enough Broly during and after the fight and 2) the prologue really should have been intercut into the fights in the back half of the film and 3) Gokuu should have remembered Bardock and Gine and interacted with them somehow—probably during the dimensional rift scene somehow.

Give Nagamine another twenty minutes and let him work on the script with Toriyama to flesh the character stuff out and the movie would have felt more like a full course meal.

Ressurection F doesn't feel like it was made by human beings. You can at least see the humanity and the fire from Nagamine and the key animators in Super Broly.

[The Dark Knight]

Broly sticks to its core idea, the three surviving Saiyajins and how their stories connect, and everything in the film builds around that.

That idea is in the movie's synopsis, but it was nowhere to be seen in the actual movie. Not once did we see Vegeta reflect on how his father impacted Broly and his father, not once did we see Goku reflect on how lucky he was to have avoided Broly's fate by being sent to earth, and not once did we Broly or his father actually speak to Goku and Vegeta. Once the 4 Saiyans meet, the fighting starts immediately and there's 0 verbal interaction between them.

[BernardoCairo]

I see where you’re coming from. It could have been explored more in the movie, sure. But I do think part of that idea is conveyed through the fight itself, especially in how Goku and Broly start to understand each other in the middle of the battle.

Even if it’s not fully developed, it’s still more than Fukkatsu no F offers. That movie barely has a core idea to begin with. There’s no real concept holding it together, it just moves from one moment to the next without building anything.