"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[JulieYBM]

It's probably just a generic mantra for himself to keep faith. There's no way Shueisha would let him be coy about the return of the comic if a return was being planned.

[The Dark Knight]

It's probably just a generic mantra for himself to keep faith. There's no way Shueisha would let him be coy about the return of the comic if a return was being planned.

This was a little more than generic, as he outright says the series is returning. If I had to guess what's going on, I would say the manga's return was planned to be announced when he put this up, but for whatever reason, a last minute delay happened behind the scenes and he wasn't informed of the change.

[Chuquita]

It would be nice to have a final hurrah with a Black Freeza arc and bring things to a close for real, but I wouldn't hold my breath on the manga returning.

Even so, would they be able to stick the landing? I'd be mildly worried about that.

I'll still welcome the manga back, I really miss having fresh stories, even though it's so late.

[The Dark Knight]

I wouldn't hold my breath on the manga returning.

They made a point to say it's on hiatus, not cancelled.

[sangofe]

It's probably just a generic mantra for himself to keep faith. There's no way Shueisha would let him be coy about the return of the comic if a return was being planned.

This was a little more than generic, as he outright says the series is returning. If I had to guess what's going on, I would say the manga's return was planned to be announced when he put this up, but for whatever reason, a last minute delay happened behind the scenes and he wasn't informed of the change.

"Everything is for the return of the series." is not outright saying the series is returning.
Source: https://x.com/TOYOTARO_Vjump

[MCDaveG]

He could’ve pretty much just nodded to the series returning in fall with Super Beerus (coming “fresh” of Genkidamatsuri). I believe that’s the case, as the statement is so vague, it can be anything and nothing at the same time.

While it def means that the franchise is returning into full mode - tv show on air, video games/promo, some staying power in subsequent media - we’ll see if the manga is returning as well as it doesn’t have to.
But would be fun, if they did with the manga what they did with Super and complete and insert Ressurection F and Broly arcs in

[sangofe]

He could’ve pretty much just nodded to the series returning in fall with Super Beerus (coming “fresh” of Genkidamatsuri). I believe that’s the case, as the statement is so vague, it can be anything and nothing at the same time.

While it def means that the franchise is returning into full mode - tv show on air, video games/promo, some staying power in subsequent media - we’ll see if the manga is returning as well as it doesn’t have to.
But would be fun, if they did with the manga what they did with Super and complete and insert Ressurection F and Broly arcs in

I certainly hope it will return in full force and that Toyotaro will be working with a skilled editor. If he does, I believe it could be better than what him and Toriyama did together before.

[The Dark Knight]

According to Geekdom, things are happening with the manga behind the scenes, so it shouldn't be much longer before it's back.

[Scsigs]

According to Geekdom, things are happening with the manga behind the scenes, so it shouldn't be much longer before it's back.

I'd trust just about anyone else before him, tbh. If anyone else more reputable can provide confirmation on that, then by all means.

[Noah]

There's not really a date for the manga returning, right?

[VegettoEX]

There's not really a date for the manga returning, right?

No. Absolutely nothing has actually been stated on-the-record about it.

V-Jump continues to run (every single month) a tiiiiiiiiiny little "Dragon Ball Super will be on hiatus next issue" blurb in each next-issue-preview, even as of the latest issue.

[The Dark Knight]

V-Jump continues to run (every single month) a tiiiiiiiiiny little "Dragon Ball Super will be on hiatus next issue" blurb in each next-issue-preview, even as of the latest issue.

This is actually good news for the manga, as going out of their way to remind people on a monthly basis that it's just on break means there's real intentions to bring it back eventually. If I had to guess, I'd say they're taking their time in order to plan things out properly and overall do things right; that's basically what they're doing with the anime now.

[MCDaveG]

I do wonder if they will revive the manga later down the road, as we'll go to the Galactic Patrol series and they might again pull the "manga caught up and will influence future anime outings" PR card again.

But going year and half with tiny hiatus blurp, you might cancel it right away as it creates unnecesary anticipation and people will just give up.
Which is funny concept, because you can basically say nothing and when you release something Dragon Ball again, people will jump in anyway, just because it is Dragon Ball. But these hiatuses are insane in general.

In case of Saint Seiya Next Dimension, the author hiatusing because of health and after two decades, finishing the story abruptly and going nowhere with it and stating that we are still not where we should have been right away after Hades arc, people gave up. Next Dimension is waste of time. And insane development hell story on top of that - he also chose different authors to continue the legacy, but in comparison to Toyotaro with Super manga, it's mostly spin-offs recycling the same story arcs and beats from original show (and not like you would think, complete with the same characters like Poseidon or Hades), while the main story arc goes nowhere and the series is unfinished, with ton of spin-offs concluded over the years. Seiya is basically dead after being struck by Hades, end of story.

Dragon Ball still fares better than most of the legacy series, complete with the crap home releases.

[Basaku]

According to Geekdom, things are happening with the manga behind the scenes, so it shouldn't be much longer before it's back.

I imagine Iyoku and Toyo pushing for it hard versus reluctant Shueisha bosses (reluctant for some weird reason). I still don't buy that Toyo & Toriyama had nothing planned/discussed already for the next Black Freeza arc or whatever. Toriyama worked with Toyo literally in the weeks before his passing, still correcting the manga pages and all and the story was clearly in the interm-chapters after SuperHero adaptation and whataver was coming next already. Black Freeza himself was nearly 2 years old by then. I don't see them not planning or discussing things so IMO at least the very basic idea for the next arc agreed by Toyo and Toriyama (and even Shueisha) must already exist since 2024 or even 2022

BTW is this the info he's been advertising to be so exxxkslusive behind the new patreon tier?

[The Dark Knight]

BTW is this the info he's been advertising to be so exxxkslusive behind the new patreon tier?

Yes; I'm not a Patreon member of his so I don't know exactly what the details are. I do agree with you though that Toyotaro knows what Toriyama's basic outline for the next arc(s) is, but unlike before, Toriyama won't be there to guide him in connecting the dots.

[Vegard Aune]

Toyotaro was always the one actually fleshing out the details based off of Toriyama's bare-bones outlines. The manga as we got it has always been mostly him, with just occasional corrections from Toriyama. Which is not to say that I think Toriyama's absence won't be felt at all if the series comes back, of course, but I don't foresee it being massively different. Hopefully he'd be working with a strong editor who can push him to do better though. While I do think Toyotaro's writing and paneling has gotten better over the course of the serialization, it'd be a stretch to say that he's at a point of being genuinely great.

[angeldreamZ004]

Unless something has changed, Toyotaro is definitely working. It has been 4 months since it was said that he would be dedicating his time entirely to manga. For all processes: creation, illustration and drawing.
We just don't know what exactly he's working at. That original manga he made was not continued so it's definitely not that.
The next Super manga arc maybe, or that special manga made to promote Dragon Ball figures, or something else.

In my opinion, what might be happening behind the scenes is that, Shueisha and Capsule Corp Tokyo, despite putting an end to their dispute, are still trying to get into a deal about how the dynamic between the Super animations and manga is going to work from now on since Toriyama is no longer there to help them and tell what it's supposed to be made. He liked to use his “Movie first, Manga later” approach while there was no anime, but that changed when Super Hero was adapted into the manga. Leaving the door open for a future where things can get closer to how they worked back during the run of his original manga and the DB / Z anime.

Toyotaro would only have to work in the manga under Shueisha, while CCT would deal with the anime, having to restart from the beginning (Super Beerus) and even doing a “prequel” (Daima) first to buy them time, contributing to the manga always being ahead of the anime, and not the other way around (2015-2018).

Shueisha and CCT may be thinking what they'll be doing in case there's a new movie in the future, if they'll tell Toyotaro to work in the movie just like Toriyama did with the previous 4. If he will be involved in more projects, like how Toriyama for the last few years was involved in: an arc (Granola), a movie (Super Hero), an anime (Daima) and a videogame (Xenoverse 3). (I think you can also include Sand Land)

Though i think it's more likely Toyotaro will stay in the manga only, it's what he's dedicating himself to, plus, while Toriyama was working in his other projects, he decided to leave Toyo free to create his own stories, which were the Super Hero Highschool prequel arc, and the Moro arc. So this helped Toyo to have experience and status.

Maybe he's ready for the return and the higher forces above him already believe that he's capable of continuing the manga alone (maybe with a new editor, I don't know), but there's something left, which I believe is CCT and Shueisha agreeing about how the dynamic of stories in specific media formats will work from now on.