Would you like Dragon Ball to get an AI dub?

[Saiya6Cit]

Mexico has declared AI will not be used on dubbing or voice acting. If they want to keep using AI they are going to have to send dubs to less reputable countries.

Oh yes I saw it on the news, they were at the Congress, the senators hall/chamber and all. They really put on a fight. I believe they have the right to defend their career/job.

No, I would not like an AI to dub DB. It will surely do it wrong.

The good thing about dubs is that they will always be optional. One can simply watch an anime in Japanese and read subtitles in whichever preferred language.

[Yellow Flower King]

Dubs are optional but they should still be available as an option. I think we need to ensure quality dubbing so that everyone can enjoy media. So I am glad Mexico outlawed AI in dubbing.

[angeldreamZ004]

Absolute no no no. AI destroys human belief that leads to self-improvement and the time it takes for creation, which is something Dragon Ball strongly defends since 1984 and is also mandatory if we want to continue seeing art made by humans. We are all gods of creations and need to go through the process of becoming stronger.
AI not only ruins this belief but also takes away the jobs of those who don't want to engage with it but create with their own hands, or in this case, with their own voices. Besides ruining other things as well, like nature. I love the work of Masako Nozawa and other voice actors (I only like the original / japanese voice acting, but the international ones are important too), but I would easily choose a recast being done in the future instead of trying to artificially maintain the classic voices.
This wouldn't allow new talents and voices to shine. If the old voices don't rest, there will be no new voices tomorrow. In the same way, AI that generates "art" doesn't create new visual artists.

Of course, new people who "work under AI" will emerge, but for me that has no value, it adds nothing to my life, only to people who embrace it and especially the people at the top of corporations who don't see value in art.

The modern world is heading towards a scenario where human belief dies, giving way to the idolatry of an artificial god who brings everything quickly, easily, and effortlessly, but who doesn't even create, it only unfairly copies the work of those who needed years or decades of effort for their creations.
This cannot be compared by any means to past technological advancements, as they all still demanded considerable effort and complexity from humans. Prior to AI, time and development for creation were still the rule. AI doesn't just make everything cheap from a commercial point of view, but creatively as well. It doesn't inspire people like humans do, it only helps to further fuel this false god and the new belief that human creation is no longer needed. World will become boring and worse than it already is.

If Dragon Ball, for example, were to stop again as it did after GT, I would be satisfied and enjoy everything we had. I would prefer that instead of getting a new sequel made by AI. It betrays the creative mind that created the universe on pages, it betrays the creative minds that brought it to life in animation. These are not people who did it just for money, but people who were also proud of their work and creations. AI creates people without pride and faith in themselves, it will create a Hell right here in our mortal reality. It's non-human.

[L3anD3RStar]

AI is a tool like any other that can be used for good or bad. Global elites will use it to cut cost but that's already the goal and nature of any corporations as a whole. So using the claim that AI is going to be the sole cause of that is just a strawman.

So your argument is since it’s gonna happen anyway, why not just let it happen?

Because yes, AI is a powerful tool, but right now that’s not how it’s being marketed. It’s being marketed as a replacement to skilled human workers. It’s “cheaper” because instead of paying an artist a salary, you are buying a subscription to a magic box that makes art for you. It feels cheaper because that’s how they draw you in. Sam Altman has even described his ultimate vision as making Human Intelligence a subscription service that you rent, and not a thing you actually develop and then have in your head forever. You won’t have artists with pencils anymore, because who would bother putting in the years it takes to develop those skills when you can just type a prompt and get an image that’ll be good enough?

Wouldn’t that be a sad world?

> We have already seen that despite many countries having high % of unemployment's, people are still struggling to get jobs, with many college graduates spending years at home.

And AI is accentuating the problem, because it’s the worst of both worlds. It’s being marketed as an alternative to skilled jobs, and its existence is making employers reconsider the value of those highly skilled employees. They can use AI as a threat to cut wages and benefits, moreso then they already are as late-stage capitalism demands wider and wider profit margins as more and more resources concentrate in fewer and fewer hands.

> AI while being a dangerous tool that can be used for good or bad. For example, I've seen many AI vids which shows what a fictional characters would look like in real life. This can be used as a tool right now to help casting for live action version of a fictional character.

And if this kind of use was where it ended, that would be fine. AI as a novelty and tool has a lot of potential. But realizing that potential will kind of require every company on earth to stop treating “AI” like it’s gonna produce a race of digital slave people who will do all of the labor in every industry from now on forever. They treat it like it’s everything to all of the people, and that’s not only bad for the people, it means the AI isn’t being used for what it’s actually good for. Companies have seen boosts in productivity thanks to AI, but only when they use it to enhance and empower the skilled human workers they already have, and not replace them.

And even innocuous looking videos like this can serve a dark purpose. Can you imagine some future where a live action Dragon Ball movie is being made, with a flesh and blood human in the role of, say, Android 18, and the first thing everybody does is compare the actress to the AI generated image from the video? AI doesn’t know what “beauty” is which is why all AI generated girls kinda look alike, but if that aesthetic is what’s normalized, then the most beautiful woman who ever lived is repulsive and ugly just because she doesn’t have that clean, vaguely-anime AI aesthetic. Because that’s how beauty standards work.

> And I've previously pointed out, AI will eventually provide freedom to the consumer to make their own TV show/movies.

Here’s a shock, you already can. Hollywood really has only itself to blame for the insultated nature of the industry that has been

But consumer cameras that can shoot professional quality images are out there, for those with the intelligence to find and learn to use them. Editing software is widely available. The internet exists for casting calls. If you’ve got a killer idea for a TV show and access to a computer, you’ve got the bare bones of what you need to get started.

And here’s the dirty secret of TV shows and movies - they are SUPPOSED to be collaborative. Filmmakers ENJOY getting their friends together and working together on a project. And then, when you done, you have a movie! It’s not easy or fast, but it’s FUN.

Now imagine a world where people who actually want to make films that way are being looked down on because instead of typing prompts, they are actually, like, casting ACTORS and scouting LOCATIONS and figuring out stuff like SPECIAL EFFECTS! They aren’t even using Chat GPT to write their scripts! They’re actually wasting all that time, like, writing a script, having people read it, getting feedback, making it better, and working to figure out how to shoot it.

All this instead of just typing. Why? Who would waste that kind of energy?

And then they’ll wonder why there’s nothing GOOD coming out lately. Because AI models starved of consistent supplies of human-generated content always collapse eventually. Eventually the AI is just copying other stuff made by the AI. And the only skilled workers/artists left are interned at the data center gulag, using their now rare educations to train the models.

Also, the NVIDIA demo just proves that computers don’t know what “beauty” actually is. AI just added details that obscured the POINT of the artistic direction of the scene. Out of focus backgrounds obscured by rain are now crystal clear, distracting the player from what they were supposed to be looking at. And Grace, who is a beautiful 20 year old woman character, suddenly has deep lines and shadows in strange places of her face, because the AI saw “flaws” that werent there and fixed them.

AI doesn’t know WHY the background was out of focus, it just saw it was and decided to fix it. It’ll approach everything this way. An actual artist could probably use AI to great effect, but it’s not a substitute for an artist. You need some beauty already in you to see it in other places.