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Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:37 pm

It'd give a new meaning to the "Watch the Birdie" attack he wanted to show Piccolo. Either way I don't see how they could condense the whole Saiyan Arc into a 2 hour movie.

*Edit* Interview with the actor that plays Teto/Weaver:

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/movieland/

Highlights? All his scenes were filmed in a day.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:45 pm

*Imagines Raditsu dressed as a magician with Vegeta as his lovely assistant*.

I have to admit the mental image is hilarious; but I'm taking any "sequel" rumors with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sure you have to see how much $ you rake in on the first movie before you go ahead and pour money into making a sequel.

EDIT: I forgot how dorky "Weaver" looks. No way could he pass off as a high school student.

That guy's gotta be in his mid or late 20's.

On the other hand all these articles in Spanish will probably help me with school.

Double Edit: WOOHOO! Weaver's not important to the plot at all. Even the article's writer says that they may have overblown his importance due to him living nearby.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:51 pm

Nice to hear the interview with Mr. Arrieta, even if it just confirms what we already knew. No offense to the guy, but his character is insignificant and has been drastically overplayed and worried about all for nothing. Weaver's scenes were shot in just a single day. Reports of him being "Goku's best friend" or some replacement for Kuririn have been greatly exaggerated.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:53 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Nice to hear the interview with Mr. Arrieta, even if it just confirms what we already knew. No offense to the guy, but his character is insignificant and has been drastically overplayed and worried about all for nothing. Weaver's scenes were shot in just a single day. Reports of him being "Goku's best friend" or some replacement for Kuririn have been greatly exaggerated.

So he's like Sharpner...or Erasa...or no-name glasses-guy.

Cool. I feel a little better.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:55 pm

Chuquita wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Nice to hear the interview with Mr. Arrieta, even if it just confirms what we already knew. No offense to the guy, but his character is insignificant and has been drastically overplayed and worried about all for nothing. Weaver's scenes were shot in just a single day. Reports of him being "Goku's best friend" or some replacement for Kuririn have been greatly exaggerated.

So he's like Sharpner...or Erasa...or no-name glasses-guy.

Cool. I feel a little better.

I like to think of it as "I see. So he's 20 steps under Announcer Guy, and five steps under 'Farmer killed by Raditz'".

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:08 pm

Has this Angle done previous acting work? If not, his acting'll be made of something weak, like Raditz![/Obligatory DBZA reference]

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:02 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Gozar wrote:This is the main problem with your post. We don't know this...From what we've seen/heard. Goku WILL be a stereotypical teenage boy. Bulma's dressed up like some assassin woman. What do we even know about Roshi so far? As for Piccolo...From what you've been saying Piccolo was once good...Yet the REAL Piccolo is an embodiment of pure evil.
They're not nearly as different as you think. Look through Dbthemovie.com's updates on the various actors, and you can see how they themselves have attested to that:

*Sniped the rest for space reasons*

I don't deny that the characters will have some similarities to their original counterparts. But in the long run the intent of the characters I feel is going to be lost.

Take that leaked scene of the Chi-Chi/Mai fight for example. Chi-Chi runs up to Goku looking for a hug...OK, great. But Goku welcomes her with open arms and lifts her off the ground and gives her a big hug...Goku would not do that at this point in his life. It's little things like that that will add up and ultimatley destroy each character.

Again, I welcome an alternate story though...But take this one quote from your post:

Centuries or millennia or whatever ago, he sees humankind as the "badguys," and he took action. In his false, twisted sense of duty or righteousness, he tried to conquer or destroy the world

I realize this is just a theory of yours but...Piccolo Daimao does not see himself as justice...He knows he's evil and wants to cause harm to everybody. He wants them to feel fear and suffer. In addition, he even made it so that there were no more laws in the world so more people can run wild. So if that theory of your came true, it would completely obliterate the Piccolo Daimao character.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:10 pm

Gozar said : Goku would not do that at this point in his life.

Well they aren't exactly the same Goku. I can't believe the fact that he's a nice guy and gives someone a hug is just completely breaks the deal.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:10 pm

Gozar wrote:Take that leaked scene of the Chi-Chi/Mai fight for example. Chi-Chi runs up to Goku looking for a hug...OK, great. But Goku welcomes her with open arms and lifts her off the ground and gives her a big hug...Goku would not do that at this point in his life. It's little things like that that will add up and ultimatley destroy each character.

That's fine if they set up their relationship before the fight. Keep in mind that Chi Chi was, to Goku in the Daimao Saga, a distant memory. He didn't even recognize her in the Ma Junior Saga. Heck, the Daimao Saga doesn't even have a tournament in it. They've kind of done an X-Men film-style age shuffle here. But Goku, after their fight in the Ma Junior Saga, wouldn't look odd hugging Chi Chi. If they succesfully build their relationship earlier in the film, this won't be out of place.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:14 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Gozar wrote:Take that leaked scene of the Chi-Chi/Mai fight for example. Chi-Chi runs up to Goku looking for a hug...OK, great. But Goku welcomes her with open arms and lifts her off the ground and gives her a big hug...Goku would not do that at this point in his life. It's little things like that that will add up and ultimatley destroy each character.
That's fine if they set up their relationship before the fight. Keep in mind that Chi Chi was, to Goku in the Daimao Saga, a distant memory. He didn't even recognize her in the Ma Junior Saga. Heck, the Daimao Saga doesn't even have a tournament in it. They've kind of done an X-Men film-style age shuffle here. But Goku, after their fight in the Ma Junior Saga, wouldn't look odd hugging Chi Chi. If they succesfully build their relationship earlier in the film, this won't be out of place.

I honestly don't mind if Hollywood wants to go ahead and do the relationship-building that Toriyama always avoided doing.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:20 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I honestly don't mind if Hollywood wants to go ahead and do the relationship-building that Toriyama always avoided doing.

I too would love that, as long as they do it for the right characters and in a similar context to how Toryama seemed to have wanted it done. My biggest fear is that they will go with the common Hollywood trend of adding needless sex in movie sequals with a hope of broadening the viweing audience and hence atracting the wrong type of fans (a lot like what was done in The Matrix Reloaded).

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:26 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I honestly don't mind if Hollywood wants to go ahead and do the relationship-building that Toriyama always avoided doing.
I too would love that, as long as they do it for the right characters and in a similar context to how Toryama seemed to have wanted it done. My biggest fear is that they will go with the common Hollywood trend of adding needless sex in movie sequals with a hope of broadening the viweing audience and hence atracting the wrong type of fans (a lot like what was done in The Matrix Reloaded).

But they could so easily get all the needless sex(iness) from Bulma if that's what they wanted.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:45 pm

How can you guys say that? That's the charm about Goku. That for the most part of the series he's so naive with relationships and really doesn't seem to understand the whole love your wife thing for most of the series. Yes he loves Chi-Chi, but I've always thought for the most part, he loved her just like he loved all of his other friends.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:48 pm

Gozar wrote:How can you guys say that? That's the charm about Goku. That for the most part of the series he's so naive with relationships and really doesn't seem to understand the whole love your wife thing for most of the series. Yes he loves Chi-Chi, but I've always thought for the most part, he loved her just like he loved all of his other friends.

Here's how:

Gohan.

With the tail and Super Saiyan ability and all, I'm pretty sure that's Goku's kid.

Where do babies come from?

Exactly.

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:52 pm

People have have sex without being in love. Considering the way Goku always acted towards Chi-Chi I've always been under the impression that she just told him that's what you do and he complied.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:04 pm

Gozar wrote:People have have sex without being in love. Considering the way Goku always acted towards Chi-Chi I've always been under the impression that she just told him what to do and he complied.

Like there was any other way she'd do it. *whipcrack*

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:07 pm

The fact of the matter is, Toriyama used behind-the-scenes sex to make new characters and left it at that. He intentionally avoided writing romance because he says he sucks at it.

So, we're given a couple blushes and then a kid three panels later we get a kid.

This got even WORSE with Bulma, who got knocked up by Vegeta without ANY warning. Y'know, if you don't count Future Trunks. And I don't.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:23 pm

Gozar wrote:How can you guys say that? That's the charm about Goku. That for the most part of the series he's so naive with relationships and really doesn't seem to understand the whole love your wife thing for most of the series. Yes he loves Chi-Chi, but I've always thought for the most part, he loved her just like he loved all of his other friends.

Well fuck, when Goku healed from the heart virus, Kuririn jumped into his arms and it was adorable (in a totally hetero way >.>). Why is it so out of place for him to get a touching moment with the future mother of his children??

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:31 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:The fact of the matter is, Toriyama used behind-the-scenes sex to make new characters and left it at that. He intentionally avoided writing romance because he says he sucks at it.

Regardless of what Toriyama's good at or not. Fact is Goku was not the romantic type. The only Z-Fighter to ever really show string romantic feelings EVER was Kuririn.

Well fuck, when Goku healed from the heart virus, Kuririn jumped into his arms and it was adorable (in a totally hetero way >.>). Why is it so out of place for him to get a touching moment with the future mother of his children??

Because this was different. It looked like some kind of sappy romantic type hug rather than Goku's typical friendly hug that we've seen. It's just not the same.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:56 pm

Look what I found, dunno if its already posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6inF7PPb0M

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