Live-action movie trailer

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:11 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:Goku isn't capable of that kind of romantic love, his feelings for Chichi would have been cultivated over years, there was no chemistry or love at first sight, it was Chi-chi's persistance that brought them together.

You know that in the movie, Goku and ChiChi have known each other and been friends for years, yes?

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:14 pm

Rocketman wrote: You know that in the movie, Goku and ChiChi have known each other and been friends for years, yes?

From what I understand Chi-chi already has a boyfriend with a ridiculous name, I don't see how she and Goku cultivated a romance while she was off banging some jock.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:16 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote: Am I really? I said I don't like Agent Bulma and that I don't believe I'm sexist for having that opinion.

I...uh... didn't call you sexist. You said you thought some people were overcompensating, I said I thought you were overreacting. And you think I'm overreacting. So I figure we should just let this one go :p

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:17 pm

...Why would you say that? Where do you see or hear about sex in this movie?

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:19 pm

Smooth Criminal wrote:If you go in with the mindset that different = bad, however, you will automatically hate it no matter how good it could potentially be. Think about the logistics of this for a second-- how EXACTLY would you have them adapt DRAGONBALL to the screen 100 percent faithful to the original version in live-action without failing miserably? It would be near impossible.

This isn’t an attack on you, but this is seriously one of the most annoying opinions I keep hearing; back when no news about the movie was out other than it was being made people were saying this in protest, and now that we’ve got some confirmation of what it looks like it’s being used as an excuse. Oh, they didn’t do it right, but how could they? Faithfully adapting Dragon Ball is impossible. Please. It’s 2008. What’s Dragon Ball got that makes it such a special case? Aliens, dragons, glowing orbs, crazy hair, energy blasts, spaceships, flying, going around at extreme speeds? All of these things have been done thousands of times in Hollywood already. They are quite commonplace. Their hand was not forced in screwing around with everything. Not on a $100 Million budget. Nope.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:19 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
MisterFlashdude wrote: Am I really? I said I don't like Agent Bulma and that I don't believe I'm sexist for having that opinion.
I...uh... didn't call you sexist.

That part wasn't you.

JAPPO wrote:Seems a bit sexist that you guys only want the female characters in this movie to do nothing (like in the anime).

But yeah, over and done with.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:22 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:But what are all the anti's looking for?

Something that kinda feels like Dragon Ball?
Well, I don't know, I'm just guessing: I certainly never had any expectations...

why does everyone ask to see the Kamehameha in the trailer? That's asking a lot from something that at most can only be 2 and a half minutes.

... and yet manages to squeeze in a cut of a parking car. Riveting stuff.

And the complaints about the Ki attacks. Hours before I came to the site today, I was thinking about how someone mentioned how in the soundless trailer the attacks looked like Force attacks from TFU and I thought that that might be an excelent way to do it. this is Ki we're talking about. It's supposedly life force or energy or something other.

Yes, thanks to the live-action movie we'll finally see what ki attacks are supposed to look like in Dragon Ball. 'Twas about time! ^__^;

Trying to create some sort of laser-ishness to it seems silly and cartoonish to me.

Er... If you remove cartoonish stuff from Dragon Ball, what's left? That... doesn't really sound like such a great idea to me.

'Wanna bet that Shaolin Soccer, for example, will end up feeling more like Dragon Ball than this one?

Forgotten Hero · Post by **Forgotten Hero** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:22 pm

Bulma and the other females don't do anything? Shame....

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:23 pm

Forgotten Hero wrote:...Why would you say that? Where do you see or hear about sex in this movie?

It's just like the epic romance between Goku and Chichi in the manga, just because we don't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:27 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote: Really? I always thought that Chi-chi spiked his food one night, jacked him off in his sleep, collected the sample, and artificially inseminated herself.
Goku was curious about the baby, but she told him a stork delivered it and he believed her, lovable retard as he is.

Now, it sounds absurd, I know... but the point is, you can't say I'm wrong. You don't know. It's not in the story.

Hahahahahaha

Did you just pull the "canon" card on Gohan and Goten's conception?

Fucking awesome

Captain Awesome wrote: It's just like the epic romance between Goku and Chichi in the manga, just because we don't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Well, that's ANY Dragon Ball relationship. What made Bulma dump Yamcha and get herself knocked up by Vegeta? According to the manga, we don't know. The anime kinda insinuates that Bulma was pissed at Yamcha cuz he didn't kill Maron when she hit on him, and she was later impressed with Vegeta's mad gravity training skillz.

Or Kuririn and #18. We know Kuririn has a romantic soul, and #18, when she isn't acting all nonchalant, has shown a tender side. But the romance itself has #18 basically running off on Kuririn, and then years later they have a kid.

Toriyama avoided relationships. Does that mean that any other interpretation of the characters should treat them all as emotional invalids? Toriyama also prefers his protagonists innocent and comical, but that didn't stop him from endorsing the Bardock TV special.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:27 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
Forgotten Hero wrote:...Why would you say that? Where do you see or hear about sex in this movie?
It's just like the epic romance between Goku and Chichi in the manga, just because we don't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I agree. And didn't someone say that Son wasn't capable of loving Chi Chi or something? Yeah, right. Son Goku is a Saiyajin with feelings, not a Nobody from Kingdom Hearts.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:32 pm

Pain wrote: I agree. And didn't someone say that Son wasn't capable of loving Chi Chi or something? Yeah, right. Son Goku is a Saiyajin with feelings, not a Nobody from Kingdom Hearts.

I was being sarcastic.

I never said Goku didn't have any feelings, but I will say again that he isn't capable of the romantic kind of love people are suggesting, he cared about Chichi, and even loved her in his own way, but Goku is for the most part an asexual being, do you really think if Chichi waited for him to "make the first move" that he'd be married with two kids?

He'd be happily training and eating by himself up on Mt. Paozu.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:34 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
Pain wrote: I agree. And didn't someone say that Son wasn't capable of loving Chi Chi or something? Yeah, right. Son Goku is a Saiyajin with feelings, not a Nobody from Kingdom Hearts.
I was being sarcastic.

I never said Goku didn't have any feelings, but I will say again that he isn't capable of the romantic kind of love people are suggesting, he cared about Chichi, and even loved her in his own way, but Goku is for the most part an asexual being, do you really think if Chichi waited for him to "make the first move" that he'd be married with two kids?

He'd be happily training and eating by himself up on Mt. Paozu.

Aw, that seems a little Heartless of him.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:35 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:Oh, they didn’t do it right, but how could they? Faithfully adapting Dragon Ball is impossible. Please. It’s 2008. What’s Dragon Ball got that makes it such a special case? Aliens, dragons, glowing orbs, crazy hair, energy blasts, spaceships, flying, going around at extreme speeds? All of these things have been done thousands of times in Hollywood already. They are quite commonplace. Their hand was not forced in screwing around with everything. Not on a $100 Million budget. Nope.

The argument isn't necessarily about special effects, but what kind of story and situations work on the big screen. The technology definitely exists to recreate everything from Dragon Ball on the big screen, but would it make a good film?

I'm not taking sides, but that's the argument in a nutshell.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:37 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote: Really? I always thought that Chi-chi spiked his food one night, jacked him off in his sleep, collected the sample, and artificially inseminated herself.
Goku was curious about the baby, but she told him a stork delivered it and he believed her, lovable retard as he is.

Now, it sounds absurd, I know... but the point is, you can't say I'm wrong. You don't know. It's not in the story.

I can't believe I missed that.

You just made my day.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:39 pm

Acid_Reign wrote: Please. It’s 2008. What’s Dragon Ball got that makes it such a special case? Aliens, dragons, glowing orbs, crazy hair, energy blasts, spaceships, flying, going around at extreme speeds?

They're doing plenty of those things in this movie and eventually the sequels. What they aren't keeping are the things like animal-people, and hair colors and styles that would make the characters look like they got lost on the way to the circus.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:45 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote: They're doing plenty of those things in this movie and eventually the sequels.

Why do people keep talking like we're only watching the first part of a trilogy?, the sequels haven't been greenlit, if this movie tanks, it's game over.

Saying "There will be more ki attacks and flying in the sequels" is really just people talking out of their ass.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:48 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: They're doing plenty of those things in this movie and eventually the sequels.
Why do people keep talking like we're only watching the first part of a trilogy?, the sequels haven't been greenlit, if this movie tanks, it's game over.

The actors have been signed on for three movies altogether. True, there's always a small chance they may not happen, but it seems to make more sense to assume they will.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:49 pm

Bussani wrote:The argument isn't necessarily about special effects, but what kind of story and situations work on the big screen. The technology definitely exists to recreate everything from Dragon Ball on the big screen, but would it make a good film?

I'm not taking sides, but that's the argument in a nutshell.

But special effects are the only conceivable limitation a Dragon Ball adaptation has going for it. With that out of the way all you’re really left with is a story about a brave, strong, clueless little kid who sets out on a journey to collect seven orbs that grant the collector a wish, while making friends and fighting enemies along the way. What exactly about that is so hard to translate without all this senseless interpolation?

SSj Kaboom wrote:They're doing plenty of those things in this movie and eventually the sequels. What they aren't keeping are the things like animal-people, and hair colors and styles that would make the characters look like they got lost on the way to the circus.

My argument was never that they weren’t. My argument is that there is nothing inherent about Dragon Ball that makes it particularly hard to properly adapt with today’s moviemaking standards.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:54 pm

Acid_Reign said: My argument was never that they weren’t. My argument was that there was nothing inherent about Dragon Ball that made it particularly hard to properly adapt.

Alright. Put your money where your mouth is. Tell us how you would sum 153 episodes up the right way. Tell me how a story like that would go. I challenge you to do that!