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Post by Dayspring » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:38 pm

There are other humanoid races in Freeza's army (Recoom's, Jeece's). It's very plausible for Vegeta to have hooked up with one of them the same way he did with Bulma.
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:41 pm

Dayspring wrote:There are other humanoid races in Freeza's army (Recoom's, Jeece's). It's very plausible for Vegeta to have hooked up with one of them the same way he did with Bulma.
Define 'hooked up'. I don't see the Saiyans as being monogamous, except maybe for the King and Queen, to prevent bastard heirs.

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Post by Dayspring » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:46 pm

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Dayspring wrote:There are other humanoid races in Freeza's army (Recoom's, Jeece's). It's very plausible for Vegeta to have hooked up with one of them the same way he did with Bulma.
Define 'hooked up'. I don't see the Saiyans as being monogamous, except maybe for the King and Queen, to prevent bastard heirs.
Vegeta, Nappa, and Radditz, post-planet kablooie, had one-night stands with humanoid aliens whenever it suited them.
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Post by Sprite Satan » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:30 pm

It is possible, but really outside the scope of the series, for Vegeta to have raped people in the past.

I would like to think Vegeta did not rape Bulma, however. The idea of Bulma apparently suffering no psychological trauma from this, giving birth to Trunks, defending Vegeta as a nice guy deep down inside, and then eventually shacking up with him full time is quite disturbing.

What motivation would Vegeta have to have sex with Bulma? As much as Goku, yet he managed to stick it in at least twice. Perhaps a strong fiery personality is what turns the always-desperate-for-a-challenge Saiyans on? By the end of the series, it seems both Goku and Vegeta are pretty subordinate to their wives.

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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:48 pm

Sprite Satan wrote:It is possible, but really outside the scope of the series, for Vegeta to have raped people in the past.

I would like to think Vegeta did not rape Bulma, however. The idea of Bulma apparently suffering no psychological trauma from this, giving birth to Trunks, defending Vegeta as a nice guy deep down inside, and then eventually shacking up with him full time is quite disturbing.

What motivation would Vegeta have to have sex with Bulma? As much as Goku, yet he managed to stick it in at least twice. Perhaps a strong fiery personality is what turns the always-desperate-for-a-challenge Saiyans on? By the end of the series, it seems both Goku and Vegeta are pretty subordinate to their wives.
I don't think ANYONE was implying that Vegeta raped Bulma. It seems more likely to me that he got used to her vulgar, overt sexuality, then totally got into it, then totally got into her.

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Post by Bussani » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:07 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I don't think ANYONE was implying that Vegeta raped Bulma. It seems more likely to me that he got used to her vulgar, overt sexuality, then totally got into it, then totally got into her.
Sounds about right.

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Post by Rocketman » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:14 pm

Sprite Satan wrote:What motivation would Vegeta have to have sex with Bulma?
He was horny, and Bulma had just the place to stick it.

Neither of them cared about the other, honestly, it wasn't some flowers and gumdrops romance. They were horny, they fucked, Vegeta's superpowered swimmers busted through the rubber like a SWAT team entering a crack house, and BAM Trunks.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:22 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Sprite Satan wrote:What motivation would Vegeta have to have sex with Bulma?
He was horny, and Bulma had just the place to stick it.

Neither of them cared about the other, honestly, it wasn't some flowers and gumdrops romance. They were horny, they fucked, Vegeta's superpowered swimmers busted through the rubber like a SWAT team entering a crack house, and BAM Trunks.
People need to learn this is as accurate as you're going to get here.
Do you honestly think Vegeta read Bulma poetry by the moonlight and sang her a song about puppies after going out for a nice dinner?
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Post by Bussani » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:54 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:People need to learn this is as accurate as you're going to get here.
Do you honestly think Vegeta read Bulma poetry by the moonlight and sang her a song about puppies after going out for a nice dinner?
I don't think anyone was implying that either.

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Post by FormallyKnownAsPrince » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:15 pm

Hmm, very interesting question...

I personally find it hard to believe Vegeta was a virgin before he met Bulma for a very simple reason: he was freakin' almost thirty years old when he arrived on Earth... That's damn old. I don't know of too many people that were thirty + when they first had sex. Plus, I see Vegeta as a man who is generally ruled by his emotions. If he felt the need, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't indulge himself.

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Post by NeptuneKai » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:19 pm

Bussani wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:People need to learn this is as accurate as you're going to get here.
Do you honestly think Vegeta read Bulma poetry by the moonlight and sang her a song about puppies after going out for a nice dinner?
I don't think anyone was implying that either.
Nobody here was but just wander onto fanfic.net and look at the countless awful "VEGETA IS A SWEET SENSITIVE UNIQUE DAFFODIL!" stories.
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:29 pm

The way I always saw it, Bulma was around Vegeta for awhile.

She was probably angry at Yamucha.

She came to respect SOME aspect of Vegeta, made it clear she was sexually available, and Vegeta went for it because it doesn't seem like he had a chance to stick it in anybody for the past few years.

It just seems to me that Bulma would be the kind of person to initiate that sort of thing. :p

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Post by Kaboom » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:37 pm

I like the idea that it was a combination of mutual horniness and Vegeta being in a good mood from becoming a Super Saiyan, and wanting to "celebrate."
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Post by Saiyajin no Tatsujin » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:31 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:It seemed like the thought of conversing with any females was never there. His father died when he was real young, so there was really no one around to teach him about sex. Bulma was his teacher.
Who is talking about conversing? Vegeta went through puberty, he'd know what's what and where to stick it. And he was so powerful he'd never have to take no for an answer.
Yeah. You're right. I forget how barbaric the Saiyan species is. In the end, we can all agree that Vegeta only gave a shit about one thing; power. And he wasn't going to let anything or anyone get in his way, including Bulma, who he might've had some feelings for after Trunks was born.

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Post by Rocketman » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:45 pm

Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:including Bulma, who he might've had some feelings for after Trunks was born.
He had no feelings for her. He outright states this when Trunks yells at him for not saving her and the baby Trunks.

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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:34 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Saiyajin no Tatsujin wrote:including Bulma, who he might've had some feelings for after Trunks was born.
He had no feelings for her. He outright states this when Trunks yells at him for not saving her and the baby Trunks.
Which I would take with a grain of salt. Vegeta cares too much about not appearing soft to others, that I'd think he'd prefer to make the kid he cares about think he was a huge douchebag than express any emotions he has come to identify with the earthling's emotional weakness.

And it takes Trunks dying for him to stop being a total douche about everything and actually express some emotion for the closest thing he has to family.

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Post by Rocketman » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:50 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Which I would take with a grain of salt. Vegeta cares too much about not appearing soft to others, that I'd think he'd prefer to make the kid he cares about think he was a huge douchebag than express any emotions he has come to identify with the earthling's emotional weakness.
True, but I think not even making a token effort to save her and his kid from exploding/falling to their deaths speaks louder than Vegeta's bluster.

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Post by Kid Trunks » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:00 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Bussani wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:People need to learn this is as accurate as you're going to get here.
Do you honestly think Vegeta read Bulma poetry by the moonlight and sang her a song about puppies after going out for a nice dinner?
I don't think anyone was implying that either.
Nobody here was but just wander onto fanfic.net and look at the countless awful "VEGETA IS A SWEET SENSITIVE UNIQUE DAFFODIL!" stories.
Just because people write fanfics about certain things doesn't mean they believe them to be canonical.
What motivation would Vegeta have to have sex with Bulma?
Well, he is a male. He'd obviously have urges. I'd say there was plenty of motivation.

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Post by mAcChaos » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:14 pm

There was one explanation in that one side story Daizenshuu thing someone scanned a while back. Trunks said he realized when he was flying with Vegeta to catch the Androids why Vegeta never tried to save Bulma, and it was because he knew all along that Trunks was his son from the future, so he would save her.
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