Is Goku just a dumb jerk?

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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:00 pm

Adamant wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:Then after 7 years pass and he had beat everyone there he decides to use his one day to go home to his family. No, instead, he wants to go fight in the Tenka-ichi Budôkai on earth, his family just happens to be there
He knew his friends and family were going to be there, that was his reason for coming in the first place. He didn't just randomly decide to drop by to fight sub-Satan level fighters.
Kakarrot eavesdropped on a conversation that Son Gohan had with Vegeta and Trunks. Videl was blackmailing Son Gohan into competing, Vegeta wanted to fight because he wanted to prove that he was now stronger that Son Gohan. Trunks were going because he wanted to see his father and Son Gohan fight. Kakarrot heard what was going on and specifically said that he would use his “day” the day of the tournament, then son Gohan went and told the others. (DBZ Vol. 20; page 80-90).
Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:.....Of course, after the Buu arc, humanity owes Namek for friggin ever.
Not necessarily because if Buu was not defeated they would have eventually been destroyed, the same with the Baby incident, the entire galaxy/universe would have been enslaved.
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Post by Michie » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:29 am

Rocketman wrote:
Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:Hmmmm, "Shen Long, could you send us to New Namek?" :P
Better hope the Namekians agree to let you use their Dragonballs, then...
Yesterday i reread the chapter where Goku visits new namek and all the namek where very friendly to goku, the namek elder even thanked goku for saving them. Of course they would revive him.

Also, Shenlong can't go beyond Kami's power. It's kind of been shown that locating things on galactic and universe-wide scales is of the Kaio-rank power, and is a bit above Kami's abilities.
I doubt dende can revive people

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Post by raz1337 » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:43 am

Adamant wrote:The manga kinda glosses over it, but yeah, he's a bit weirded out in the anime, so it's clear he had no idea.

And hey, it's Goku - can we really expect him to know what causes pregnancy?
In the episode Camera Shy of the tournament in the Buu saga, Goku asks how Android 18 was able to get pregnant. Apparently by then, he knew.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:47 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:I never bought that “villains targeting him” him jazz. Kakarrot always had to play Superman and get involved with things. Raditz came looking for him because they were brothers which is understandable and because no one knew that the Scouters worked as two-way radios Nappa and Vegeta showed up, then Freeza over heard and it went down hill from there. The Artificial Humans and Cell came about because of the history with Dr. Gero. The problem was not necessarily Kakarrot it was because he and Bulma kept jacking around with the Dragonballs, which put others in danger. If they had left them alone or once they were found hid them and let nature take its course and once someone died leave them dead none of that nonesense would have happened. Now Buu would have been a major problem but if things would have played out differently there would not have been anyone with a strong enough combat power to revive him/it.
-Raditz came to Earth to get Goku.
-Freeza and King Cold came to Earth to get Goku.
-The entire Android/Cell mess was intended to get Goku.

You can stretch it a bit to include Piccolo Jr, too.
Yeah but the whole Freeza clan came after him because of the Dragonballs and the Artificial Humans came after him because what happened in the past because of the Dragonballs and Raditz was family which eventually lead to the Saiyans coming after Kakarrot because of the Dragonballs. Piccolo Jr., came after him because of Piccolo Daimaô event which was connected to the Dragonballs.

Just when you thought Kakarrot learned his lesson in GT at the end of the Evil Dragons arc, 100 years after those events he sends his descendent (Goku Jr.) down the same path by explaining how the Dragonballs work and how he needs to collect the others. If Goku Jr. and Pack becomes buddies with Vegeta Jr. which would most likely have a Dragon Radar if Giru is still around or make a new one that is if he inherited the Brief’s genius and all three start jacking around with the Dragonballs the big mess will start all over again. Kakarrot is even a terrible great-great-great-grandfather (?).
Android 16 on about 50 kajillion occasions: I was created to kill Son Goku.

I mean hell, The Androids were loaded with data about Goku's fighting techniques, transformations, etc. Dr. Gero told them that before Goku fought #19.
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:03 am

jjgp1112 wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Rocketman wrote: -Raditz came to Earth to get Goku.
-Freeza and King Cold came to Earth to get Goku.
-The entire Android/Cell mess was intended to get Goku.

You can stretch it a bit to include Piccolo Jr, too.
Yeah but the whole Freeza clan came after him because of the Dragonballs and the Artificial Humans came after him because what happened in the past because of the Dragonballs and Raditz was family which eventually lead to the Saiyans coming after Kakarrot because of the Dragonballs. Piccolo Jr., came after him because of Piccolo Daimaô event which was connected to the Dragonballs.

Just when you thought Kakarrot learned his lesson in GT at the end of the Evil Dragons arc, 100 years after those events he sends his descendent (Goku Jr.) down the same path by explaining how the Dragonballs work and how he needs to collect the others. If Goku Jr. and Pack becomes buddies with Vegeta Jr. which would most likely have a Dragon Radar if Giru is still around or make a new one that is if he inherited the Brief’s genius and all three start jacking around with the Dragonballs the big mess will start all over again. Kakarrot is even a terrible great-great-great-grandfather (?).
Android 16 on about 50 kajillion occasions: I was created to kill Son Goku.

I mean hell, The Androids were loaded with data about Goku's fighting techniques, transformations, etc. Dr. Gero told them that before Goku fought #19.
I do not understand what you are saying here, can you elaborate a little more or rephrase it?
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Post by Ex-Dubbie369 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:43 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Android 16 on about 50 kajillion occasions: I was created to kill Son Goku.

I mean hell, The Androids were loaded with data about Goku's fighting techniques, transformations, etc. Dr. Gero told them that before Goku fought #19.
I do not understand what you are saying here, can you elaborate a little more or rephrase it?
#16 repeatedly stated that his sole purpose was to kill Goku.

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Post by Pain » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:08 am

SaiyaMel wrote:
"Perfect" characters usually end up as Mary Sues or Gary Stus and always get on my nerves due to their totally un-relatable nauseating existence. (Glowers disgustedly over at two characters from a completely different anime series)
Yeah, Superman is another example of a character that I would consider as too perfect...
That's why Smallville was created. It puts a twist on the Clark Kent story, giving him problems that we go through everyday. I'd say that Superman is probably farther away from perfect than we are in many ways. Try not being able to do these things:

1. Have sex with your wife without destroying her.

2. Knock the shit out of someone who continually annoys you.

3. Sexually reproduce(without sperm donning or loss of powers.).

4.Play fight with regular kids as a child, without seriously hurting them.

That'd mess you up in the head, wouldn't it?
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Post by Saiyan-Professor » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:39 am

Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:
Saiyan-Professor wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:Android 16 on about 50 kajillion occasions: I was created to kill Son Goku.

I mean hell, The Androids were loaded with data about Goku's fighting techniques, transformations, etc. Dr. Gero told them that before Goku fought #19.
I do not understand what you are saying here, can you elaborate a little more or rephrase it?
#16 repeatedly stated that his sole purpose was to kill Goku.
I still do not understand what the person is saying. What does that have to do with my comment? Yes, #16 wanted to kill Kakarrot because Dr. Gero programmed him/it to do so because of what happened with the Red Ribbon Army, which involved the Dragonballs years earlier.
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Post by Kendamu » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:57 am

Pain wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote:
"Perfect" characters usually end up as Mary Sues or Gary Stus and always get on my nerves due to their totally un-relatable nauseating existence. (Glowers disgustedly over at two characters from a completely different anime series)
Yeah, Superman is another example of a character that I would consider as too perfect...
That's why Smallville was created. It puts a twist on the Clark Kent story, giving him problems that we go through everyday. I'd say that Superman is probably farther away from perfect than we are in many ways. Try not being able to do these things:

1. Have sex with your wife without destroying her.

2. Knock the shit out of someone who continually annoys you.

3. Sexually reproduce(without sperm donning or loss of powers.).

4.Play fight with regular kids as a child, without seriously hurting them.

That'd mess you up in the head, wouldn't it?
If you've ever watched Justice League, there's a clip where Superman talks about always having to take constant care not to break things.

If only he were Saiyan or some other race that could control their Battle Power at will, he wouldn't have to try to be perfect all the time.

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Re: Is Goku just a dumb jerk?

Post by Gozar » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:03 am

Sprite Satan wrote:Can we say Goku values friendship as anything beyond the challenge of a strong opponent? Does he value his marriage as anything beyond a source of home cooked food and his two children (which he does seem to care about)?
I disagree with your first statement but agree with the 2'nd and disagree with the 3'rd.

Goku DOES care about his friends. There's no way he would have become an SSJ if he didn't deeply care for Kuririn. However he's a lousy husband. This is simply because he has no real concept of marriage. He just agreed to do it because he unknowingly promised. I really don't believe Chi-Chi means more to him than his other friends. HOWEVER, I do believe he's a good father. People always state he leaves his family. BEING DEAD DOES NOT COUNT, lol. He was dead for a year before the Saiya-jin and then those 7 years after Cell were for the good of everybody. He was sacraficing himself to keep them safe (Or so he thought). He did have good intentions in mind then. Then he's around for another 10 years. No one ever gives him credit for this. By the time he leaves again with Uub, Gohan's married with a kid and Goten's almost an adult himself. His leaving again was being a bad husband. Not father IMO.

I really don't think of Goku as a very flawed person. Just a carefree one, in other words, he's also carefree when it comes to everyone else. I don't think this qualifies him as flawed. It's just that our society leads us to believe that leaving a wife in which he really doesn't love is a terrible thing.

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Post by Deep Thought » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:14 am

Image

*Gohan and Goku, both sitting on rocks in a forest, were having a discussion, as usual, about combat involving him*

Goku: Alright, Gohan, today you'll learn how to fight in overwhelming odds-

Gohan: Daddy, I don't want to fight!

Goku: Don't worry, everything will be fine. Anyway, we already figured out that you aren't quite as durable me (Gohan whimpers, and we see several dark purple bruises on his limp left arm). So, I've come to the conclusion that your power is much more latent than mine.

Goku: Now then, have you noticed that cage right next to us, with the animal inside of it?

Gohan: Y-yes, daddy, and I really, really don't like where this is goi-

Goku: This animal is a wolf. You know what is a wolf is, right? (Gohan nods, with fear on his face). Well, then, you will battle this wolf, hopefully knocking it out.

Gohan: WHAT?! Y-YOU CANT D-D-DO THIS TO M-ME.

Goku: Please quiet down, Gohan. Anyway, I could take out wolves with one hand, blind-folded when I was TWEVLE. So you should be able to knock them out pretty easily

Gohan: BUT DAAAAAAAD, I'M ONLY FOUR YEARS OLD! THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Goku (light heartedly): No there isn't, really. Anyway, less blabby, more fighty.

*Goku opens the cage*

Gohan: DADDY, NO!

*Wolf growls, then pounces on Gohan*

Goku: YOU CAN DO IT GOHAN, JUST GET MAD!

*Wolf starts viciously tearing Gohan's leg with his teeth, causing blood to leak out of freshly created wound*

Goku: COMON GOHAN, FIGHT BACK!

Gohan: DADDY, HELP! *Gohan start to cry, but the wolf still attacks Gohan*

Goku: NO, YOU CAN DO IT!

*Chi Chi enters the forest*

Chi Chi: I heard growling, and I- *sees wolf mauling Gohan*

*If Chi Chi was a Sayajin, she would have turned Super Sayajin right there and then. Veins pulsated through her forehead like writhing snakes, and, with her teeth bared, she lunged at the wolf, screaming in a more bestial way than any animal in Dragon World. She clawed at the wolf's eyes, gouging them out in seconds. She then kicked the wolf with unbelievable strength, causing it to fall the ground like a bag full of concrete. The wolf whimpered with extreme pain for mercy, but, with the glare of the devil, Chi Chi picked up the wolf with one hand and threw it with all of her might. The wolf's hurled body shattered the trees like they were bamboo, and it even broke through a solid wall of rock. Chi Chi knew that it was gruesomely dead, and without further ado, went to Gohan*

Chi Chi: GOHAN! Gohan, please, please, be alive! *tears started to trickle down her eyes*

*Goku just stood there, his mouth agape like a retard's*

*Gohan regains consciousness slowly, spitting out some blood, unable to find the strength to sit up, let alone stand*

Gohan: M-Mother!

Chi Chi: Gohan! I'll never leave you again!

Gohan: Mother, it........*close his eyes, as though the effort of talking pained him*.... it w-was horrible. G-Goku just...... set this a-a-animal on me.

*Chi Chi's eyes turn blood red as she glares at Goku, and we see an impressive, yet horrible ki-aura surround her momentarily*

Gohan: I-is there...... something wrong, mother?

*Chi Chi doesn't respond as she walks slowly, yet menacingly toward Goku*

Chi Chi: Is this true? *her voice had a silent, even calm edge to it, but something about it scared Goku far more horribly than her yelling ever did*

Goku: Well, uh, yeah, y'know, I just wanted to train him and, uh, yeah.

*Chi Chi, with strength and rage that she had never felt in her life, punched Goku full-force in the face*

*Goku fell backward and let a slight yelp of pain, when he got up, there was a slight trickle of blood coming down his nose*

Goku: Damn it, Chi Chi, don't take me off guard like that. I was relaxing, and if you wanted to spar, then you should've said so.

Chi Chi: GODDAMN IT, YOU FUCKING RETARD, IS SPARING ALL EVER YOU THINK ABOUT?! *she storms into the house, and a loud slam like a gunshot can be heard from the distance*

Goku: Friggin' bitch, I didn't do anything wrong!

Goku: Anyway, we better give you a sensu bean, Gohan! Hopefully, they are available today. But we still did a good job, didn't we?

Gohan: *whimper*

Goku: That's the sprit!

*Hours later*

Goku: Hey, Chi Chi, I dun fixed Gohan up real good with one of them beans, so how come you still mad?

Chi Chi: Don't you realize that Gohan might suffer from another kind pain that isn't physical?

Goku: There's two kinds of pains?

Chi Chi: *sigh*

Chi Chi: I just don't know if I can forgive you for doing something like this.

Goku: Anyway, baby, let's make up?

*Chi Chi could clearly see the figure of Goku's manhood bulging from his pants, and she knew that his intent was clear. To be fair, she was feeling aroused as well. But she wouldn't give in. Not today. Not after that.

Goku: Now, then, I'm going to put you to bed.

Chi Chi: Ugh, no.

Goku: Come on, I can tell that you're lying, and that you're hiding your true feelings.

Chi Chi: No, I'm serious. Get away from me.

*Goku moved closer to Chi Chi, and she could hear his breathing. As Goku rubbed her back, a flood of ecstatic arousal came about her and she lunged at Goku*

*Gohan, who was in bed, heard gigantic thuds that surely belonged to a monster, as well as several moans. Gohan put a pillow to his ears, but no matter how hard poor Gohan pressed, the sound was still as loud as ever. If anything, it got louder. So Gohan had to endure the ideal, awake*

*Hours later, the sounds were gone. However, when Gohan fell asleep, he had only horrid nightmares of a monster whose face looked like Goku's than made the same thuds that he heard earlier, and it made the same horrendous moans as before. Gohan attempted to fight it, but if slashed his chest open in one swipe, and, as Gohan's vision blurred into the realms of death, it stole Chi Chi, and ate her. Gohan would than awake, sweaty-face, then attempt to fall asleep again. However, the same nightmares haunted him. Eventually, he refused to fall asleep*

*Hours later*

*Gohan gets up, dreary-eyed, and goes into his mother and father's room . He than sees them both naked, although this sight wasn't new to him in the slightest.*

Gohan: Mother? Father? I need to go to school.

Chi Chi: Mfph. *waves a tired hand at Gohan* Ugh, you can go yourself, I'm too tired to take you there. You know the route.

Gohan: *In a cracked voice* Alright, mother.

Chi Chi: Love you, Gohan.

Goku: Mph, love you, Gohan.

Gohan: Love you, too.

*At school, the kids would tease and bully him for having a tail. The thing that the children found the most fun was throwing old cans and rotten tomatoes at him, like he was a freak*

*When Gohan would return home, he'd hear Goku say "Time to train!"*

*Gohan would then look at the house, and cry*

The cycle would basically repeat itself up to the Raditz Arc.

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Post by Forgotten Hero » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:19 am

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Post by Pain » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:42 am

Kendamu wrote:
Pain wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote: Yeah, Superman is another example of a character that I would consider as too perfect...
That's why Smallville was created. It puts a twist on the Clark Kent story, giving him problems that we go through everyday. I'd say that Superman is probably farther away from perfect than we are in many ways. Try not being able to do these things:

1. Have sex with your wife without destroying her.

2. Knock the shit out of someone who continually annoys you.

3. Sexually reproduce(without sperm donning or loss of powers.).

4.Play fight with regular kids as a child, without seriously hurting them.

That'd mess you up in the head, wouldn't it?
If you've ever watched Justice League, there's a clip where Superman talks about always having to take constant care not to break things.

If only he were Saiyan or some other race that could control their Battle Power at will, he wouldn't have to try to be perfect all the time.
I've seen all episodes, and I forgot to mention that last part.
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Post by AnzuMazaki » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:17 am

Deep Thought wrote:Image

*Gohan and Goku, both sitting on rocks in a forest, were having a discussion, as usual, about combat involving him*

Goku: Alright, Gohan, today you'll learn how to fight in overwhelming odds-

Gohan: Daddy, I don't want to fight!

Goku: Don't worry, everything will be fine. Anyway, we already figured out that you aren't quite as durable me (Gohan whimpers, and we see several dark purple bruises on his limp left arm). So, I've come to the conclusion that your power is much more latent than mine.

Goku: Now then, have you noticed that cage right next to us, with the animal inside of it?

Gohan: Y-yes, daddy, and I really, really don't like where this is goi-

Goku: This animal is a wolf. You know what is a wolf is, right? (Gohan nods, with fear on his face). Well, then, you will battle this wolf, hopefully knocking it out.

Gohan: WHAT?! Y-YOU CANT D-D-DO THIS TO M-ME.

Goku: Please quiet down, Gohan. Anyway, I could take out wolves with one hand, blind-folded when I was TWEVLE. So you should be able to knock them out pretty easily

Gohan: BUT DAAAAAAAD, I'M ONLY FOUR YEARS OLD! THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Goku (light heartedly): No there isn't, really. Anyway, less blabby, more fighty.

*Goku opens the cage*

Gohan: DADDY, NO!

*Wolf growls, then pounces on Gohan*

Goku: YOU CAN DO IT GOHAN, JUST GET MAD!

*Wolf starts viciously tearing Gohan's leg with his teeth, causing blood to leak out of freshly created wound*

Goku: COMON GOHAN, FIGHT BACK!

Gohan: DADDY, HELP! *Gohan start to cry, but the wolf still attacks Gohan*

Goku: NO, YOU CAN DO IT!

*Chi Chi enters the forest*

Chi Chi: I heard growling, and I- *sees wolf mauling Gohan*

*If Chi Chi was a Sayajin, she would have turned Super Sayajin right there and then. Veins pulsated through her forehead like writhing snakes, and, with her teeth bared, she lunged at the wolf, screaming in a more bestial way than any animal in Dragon World. She clawed at the wolf's eyes, gouging them out in seconds. She then kicked the wolf with unbelievable strength, causing it to fall the ground like a bag full of concrete. The wolf whimpered with extreme pain for mercy, but, with the glare of the devil, Chi Chi picked up the wolf with one hand and threw it with all of her might. The wolf's hurled body shattered the trees like they were bamboo, and it even broke through a solid wall of rock. Chi Chi knew that it was gruesomely dead, and without further ado, went to Gohan*

Chi Chi: GOHAN! Gohan, please, please, be alive! *tears started to trickle down her eyes*

*Goku just stood there, his mouth agape like a retard's*

*Gohan regains consciousness slowly, spitting out some blood, unable to find the strength to sit up, let alone stand*

Gohan: M-Mother!

Chi Chi: Gohan! I'll never leave you again!

Gohan: Mother, it........*close his eyes, as though the effort of talking pained him*.... it w-was horrible. G-Goku just...... set this a-a-animal on me.

*Chi Chi's eyes turn blood red as she glares at Goku, and we see an impressive, yet horrible ki-aura surround her momentarily*

Gohan: I-is there...... something wrong, mother?

*Chi Chi doesn't respond as she walks slowly, yet menacingly toward Goku*

Chi Chi: Is this true? *her voice had a silent, even calm edge to it, but something about it scared Goku far more horribly than her yelling ever did*

Goku: Well, uh, yeah, y'know, I just wanted to train him and, uh, yeah.

*Chi Chi, with strength and rage that she had never felt in her life, punched Goku full-force in the face*

*Goku fell backward and let a slight yelp of pain, when he got up, there was a slight trickle of blood coming down his nose*

Goku: Damn it, Chi Chi, don't take me off guard like that. I was relaxing, and if you wanted to spar, then you should've said so.

Chi Chi: GODDAMN IT, YOU FUCKING RETARD, IS SPARING ALL EVER YOU THINK ABOUT?! *she storms into the house, and a loud slam like a gunshot can be heard from the distance*

Goku: Friggin' bitch, I didn't do anything wrong!

Goku: Anyway, we better give you a sensu bean, Gohan! Hopefully, they are available today. But we still did a good job, didn't we?

Gohan: *whimper*

Goku: That's the sprit!

*Hours later*

Goku: Hey, Chi Chi, I dun fixed Gohan up real good with one of them beans, so how come you still mad?

Chi Chi: Don't you realize that Gohan might suffer from another kind pain that isn't physical?

Goku: There's two kinds of pains?

Chi Chi: *sigh*

Chi Chi: I just don't know if I can forgive you for doing something like this.

Goku: Anyway, baby, let's make up?

*Chi Chi could clearly see the figure of Goku's manhood bulging from his pants, and she knew that his intent was clear. To be fair, she was feeling aroused as well. But she wouldn't give in. Not today. Not after that.

Goku: Now, then, I'm going to put you to bed.

Chi Chi: Ugh, no.

Goku: Come on, I can tell that you're lying, and that you're hiding your true feelings.

Chi Chi: No, I'm serious. Get away from me.

*Goku moved closer to Chi Chi, and she could hear his breathing. As Goku rubbed her back, a flood of ecstatic arousal came about her and she lunged at Goku*

*Gohan, who was in bed, heard gigantic thuds that surely belonged to a monster, as well as several moans. Gohan put a pillow to his ears, but no matter how hard poor Gohan pressed, the sound was still as loud as ever. If anything, it got louder. So Gohan had to endure the ideal, awake*

*Hours later, the sounds were gone. However, when Gohan fell asleep, he had only horrid nightmares of a monster whose face looked like Goku's than made the same thuds that he heard earlier, and it made the same horrendous moans as before. Gohan attempted to fight it, but if slashed his chest open in one swipe, and, as Gohan's vision blurred into the realms of death, it stole Chi Chi, and ate her. Gohan would than awake, sweaty-face, then attempt to fall asleep again. However, the same nightmares haunted him. Eventually, he refused to fall asleep*

*Hours later*

*Gohan gets up, dreary-eyed, and goes into his mother and father's room . He than sees them both naked, although this sight wasn't new to him in the slightest.*

Gohan: Mother? Father? I need to go to school.

Chi Chi: Mfph. *waves a tired hand at Gohan* Ugh, you can go yourself, I'm too tired to take you there. You know the route.

Gohan: *In a cracked voice* Alright, mother.

Chi Chi: Love you, Gohan.

Goku: Mph, love you, Gohan.

Gohan: Love you, too.

*At school, the kids would tease and bully him for having a tail. The thing that the children found the most fun was throwing old cans and rotten tomatoes at him, like he was a freak*

*When Gohan would return home, he'd hear Goku say "Time to train!"*

*Gohan would then look at the house, and cry*

The cycle would basically repeat itself up to the Raditz Arc.

Evenm though I like Goku this fanfic is kind funny :lol:
I've never been laughing to hard at a Dragonball RPG-style fanfic/Play before.

Everybody is so in-character here, nice job, Deep Thought-kun

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Post by Adamant » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:33 am

SaiyaMel wrote:Yeah, Superman is another example of a character that I would consider as too perfect...
Really, Superman was not created as a superhero, since the genre was influenced by him and all. The entire point of the character was to have an uplifting story about a theoretical character who was able to fight back at a corrupted society. His inability to be beaten was an important character trait that put him at a more supernatural level. He's not just your average martial artist guy who gets lucky, he's truly above everybody. The reader isn't supposed to worry about whether Superman can overcome the villain of day's schemes, he's supposed to be happy that Superman is there stopping whatever horribleness some guy that law can't reach is pulling. The idea of someone striking back at the parasites of society, someone who's ability allows him to do so without them possibly being able to do something about it, a "superman" as opposed to a normal man - that was what drew people to the comic.

The early Superman stories, those that originally made him popular, are very well written, and absolutely recommended reading, though they're completely different from what is classified as "superhero comics" today, and arguably don't even belong in the genre.

(really, it's the same as Dragonball - Toriyama's Dragonball wasn't "My power level is higher than yours!" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Damn!" any more than Siegel's Superman was "I'm invincible!" "Damn!", no matter what FUNi/some more recent Superman author and the internet people want you to believe)

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Post by Wojak » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:11 am

Goku is not a jerk. After having died twice, he realizes that the afterlife is not much different than the Earth life, and in any case, he will meet his family when they die. There is an infinite time in the afterlife, so missing out a couple of years with them would not matter for a guy like Goku, as he is laid back.
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:45 am

Deep Thought wrote:Image

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Sort of funny, but not exactly in-character for Goku. Piccolo told Gohan that Goku was simply too soft to actually do that to him.

Luckily for us, Piccolo didn't have that problem. :P

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Post by Deep Thought » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:56 pm

AnzuMazaki wrote:
Evenm though I like Goku this fanfic is kind funny :lol:
I've never been laughing to hard at a Dragonball RPG-style fanfic/Play before.

Everybody is so in-character here, nice job, Deep Thought-kun
Thank you very much.
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Sort of funny, but not exactly in-character for Goku. Piccolo told Gohan that Goku was simply too soft to actually do that to him.

Luckily for us, Piccolo didn't have that problem. :P
Not really. Think the Cell Games battle with Gohan and Cell. Now look at my story, replace "wolf" with "Cell", make Gohan 9 years old and a Super Sayajin,make Piccolo the voice of reason instead of Çhi Chi, and change a couple of things. There you go, a near perfect likeness of the Cell Saga.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:26 pm

It beckons the question, how did he receive Chi-Chi's affection when he recovered from his hear virus. I remember the Anime expanding upon that scene a little...

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Post by Captain-Sora » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:52 pm

JulieYBM wrote:It beckons the question, how did he receive Chi-Chi's affection when he recovered from his hear virus. I remember the Anime expanding upon that scene a little...

EDIT: Fixed spelling mistake.
I noticed Toei likes to add a lot of ChiChi and Goku relationship-type moments. The Piccolo Jr. Saga was whored out with them. Not only did they make the "Wanna get married?" scene longer and a bit more corny(although I liked it, hehe), they made ChiChi get heaps of "OMG GOKU!" moments every part he's getting owned or tossed around.

Hell, they even gave a clip for her based on the part where another character, Krillin was getting a large panel from the manga showing him shocked right before Goku is being shot at by that large beam before the tournament was over. They switched it with ChiChi. >_>;

I kinda like the thought of expanding her character though, in the manga she barely got a decent amount of dialogue and scenes COMPARED to most of the other characters.

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