Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

B · Post by B » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:42 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Is that the direction fans are going now in order to feel justified in complaining about every last thing that comes out with the name "Dragonball" on it somewhere?
Yeah I guess your right, he can just fast forward through the filler and try to tweak his TV's color settings manually.

That's got nothing to do with 4:3 aspect ratio.

Hell, if your TV isn't shit, you should be able to adjust the aspect ratio to your liking.

And tweaking your color settings manually isn't as hard as you're implying. If you TRULY hate the colors, it doesn't sound too farfetched that you'd be willing to play aronud with 4 or 5 bars that go from 1 to 100.

That is, if you TRULY hated the colors, and weren't just mindlessly picking something about the show at random and bitching about it. But you wouldn't do that. You look like you've got a good head on your shoulders.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:44 pm

B wrote:Hell, if your TV isn't shit, you should be able to adjust the aspect ratio to your liking.

And tweaking your color settings manually isn't as hard as you're implying. If you TRULY hate the colors, it doesn't sound too farfetched that you'd be willing to play aronud with 4 or 5 bars that go from 1 to 100.

Not that I really have a side in this argument, but your logic here is very flawed.

-Corey

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:48 pm

I really don't like the "Shut up idiot, if you don't like Kai then you're not allowed to say anything" attitude. Maybe I like Kai, and think there are problems. Maybe I don't like the cropping, or just the colors, or I think that the opening theme isn't that great.

WHY then, are we fine to say bad things about Funimation's Season Sets, but not about Kai? This isn't even saying that either is objectively good or bad, but the ABILITY to express the OPINION, and get treated with respect as a fellow member of the board.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:52 pm

B wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Is that the direction fans are going now in order to feel justified in complaining about every last thing that comes out with the name "Dragonball" on it somewhere?
Yeah I guess your right, he can just fast forward through the filler and try to tweak his TV's color settings manually.
That's got nothing to do with 4:3 aspect ratio.

But it had everything to do with what we were talking about.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:07 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:WHY then, are we fine to say bad things about Funimation's Season Sets, but not about Kai?

Because little to no effort was put into remastering DBZ on FUNi's end, while promoting it to be something it isn't as well as using misleading marketing tactics?

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:09 pm

Tsukento wrote:
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:WHY then, are we fine to say bad things about Funimation's Season Sets, but not about Kai?
Because little to no effort was put into remastering DBZ on FUNi's end, while promoting it to be something it isn't as well as using misleading marketing tactics?

Regardless of the effort, visually the results are not up to par with many of the season sets.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:13 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:Regardless of the effort, visually the results are not up to par with many of the season sets.

That's up for debate. Especially considering how inconsistent FUNi's season sets are.

And remember, FUNi's copies have not aged well at all. Their season sets are based off of poor quality copies of the series.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:13 pm

Tsukento wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:Regardless of the effort, visually the results are not up to par with many of the season sets.
That's up for debate. Especially considering how inconsistent FUNi's season sets are.

Which is why i said many, not all. I realize that the season 2 set is god awful.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:15 pm

I'm just gonna play devil's advocate here, and say that if you don't like the soft-ness of the picture you could probably use avisynth or VDub to sharpen it a little. Honestly, I'm more against the LOOK of Kai than the concept; love the concept, but seems poorly executed. Blue-haired Raditz, seemingly shoddy tracing, et cetera.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:50 am

bkev wrote:I'm just gonna play devil's advocate here, and say that if you don't like the soft-ness of the picture you could probably use avisynth or VDub to sharpen it a little. Honestly, I'm more against the LOOK of Kai than the concept; love the concept, but seems poorly executed. Blue-haired Raditz, seemingly shoddy tracing, et cetera.

Raditz's hair is not black originally.

kei17 · Post by **kei17** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:48 am

Someone on 2chan said that Dragon Soul souded like these songs.
This must be an accident, but still interesting and funny.

1:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNXLfaD3ZM&fmt=18
1:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuiQIGbNyM&fmt=18

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:16 pm

SSJ2bardock wrote:
Tsukento wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:Regardless of the effort, visually the results are not up to par with many of the season sets.
That's up for debate. Especially considering how inconsistent FUNi's season sets are.
Which is why i said many, not all. I realize that the season 2 set is god awful.

So far I've only seen one FUNi screen that I liked more. To be fair, though, the FUNi screens were good. I just like Kai more.

And... fuck Season 2!

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:08 pm

Kendamu wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote:
Tsukento wrote: That's up for debate. Especially considering how inconsistent FUNi's season sets are.
Which is why i said many, not all. I realize that the season 2 set is god awful.
So far I've only seen one FUNi screen that I liked more. To be fair, though, the FUNi screens were good. I just like Kai more.

And... fuck Season 2!

What's bad about season 2? I never realised something, except for that fucked croping, in some scenes it really gets on my nerves.......

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:14 pm

MCDaveG wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
SSJ2bardock wrote: Which is why i said many, not all. I realize that the season 2 set is god awful.
So far I've only seen one FUNi screen that I liked more. To be fair, though, the FUNi screens were good. I just like Kai more.

And... fuck Season 2!
What's bad about season 2? I never realised something, except for that fucked croping, in some scenes it really gets on my nerves.......

The colors were insanely inconsistent. On some discs (Discs 4 & 6, for example), it actually looked pretty decent, but on the rest, it looked like crap, especially disc 5.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:16 pm

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:24 pm

Season 2 has my favorite episodes on it. The remastering made everything so pale, though. For example, Gohan's skin and the white of his eyes are about the same color.

If it weren't for Season 2 I'd barely have a problem.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:25 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:
MCDaveG wrote:
Kendamu wrote: So far I've only seen one FUNi screen that I liked more. To be fair, though, the FUNi screens were good. I just like Kai more.

And... fuck Season 2!
What's bad about season 2? I never realised something, except for that fucked croping, in some scenes it really gets on my nerves.......
It doesn't have this problem on the last few discs (once the Ginyu show up), but for everything before that, the season two set is WAAAY overly bright, to the point where if you're watching it on an HD TV, you sometimes can barely see shit (it's like someone performed a Taiyoken on the film masters).

The first few discs of season 3 also share this problem, in fact to an even GREATER extent. In the Piccolo vs Form 2 Freeza fight for instance, there's an (inanely kickass) bit where they both exchange two MASSIVE Ki attacks that are both spectacular. But on the season three disc that that episode is on, the image is so bright that both Ki attacks are literally ERASED from the shots. You actually cannot see them hardly at all, and it just looks like they're both shooting giant rays of bright white sunlight at one another (when both Ki attacks are actually dark pink/purple).

Sucks too, cause that's one of the most memorable parts of that fight for me.

Oh man, that was a good one

And yeah, you're right about Season 3, but the strange thing I noticed is that the colors were only like that during Piccolo vs. Frieza episodes. Before and after that, they looked pretty good.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:31 pm

Thanks for little review, I must look on it tomorow, because I didn't remember something like that

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:50 pm

If my "appromixately 3 chapters per episode" prediction is correct, next week we should see the very first part of the Raditz fight before the chapter ends. It would be the same as how episode 1 ended on a chapter ending.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:35 pm

Kendamu wrote:If my "appromixately 3 chapters per episode" prediction is correct, next week we should see the very first part of the Raditz fight before the chapter ends. It would be the same as how episode 1 ended on a chapter ending.

Seems about right, the whole manga would add up to 105 episodes in total