Goku vs. Vegeta question (Saiyan Saga)

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Goku vs. Vegeta question (Saiyan Saga)

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:15 am

Refresh my memory, which is correct?

Kaio-Ken x4>Kaio-Ken x3+Kamehameha=Galick Gun>Kaio-Ken x3
Or is it:
Kaio-Ken x3+Kamehameha=Galick Gun>Kaio-Ken x4>Kaio-Ken x3
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Post by Zackarotto » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:31 pm

While this is just my faulty logic, I'd think Kaio-Ken x3+Kamehameha would be stronger than Kaio-Ken x4. It is the Kamehameha, after all.

It wouldn't be that much more powerful, so I'm pretty sure we can say that Kaio-Ken x5>Kaio-Ken x3+Kamehameha. Maybe. Might have to go to x6 or more?

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:20 pm

Was there anything actually noted, though? Like Goku saying "That Kamehameha wasn't enough, I'll need the KKx4" or something. I'm missing that volume, so I have no way of knowing at the moment.
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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:38 pm

They were essentially at a stand-still. Goku was so strained, it was probably likely that unless he did something quick, he'd lose it and be over-powered. Kicking the Kaio-Ken up to 4X allowed him to put even more power behind it and knock Vegeta way out into La-La-Land.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Nov 25, 2004 3:29 am

VegettoEX wrote:They were essentially at a stand-still. Goku was so strained, it was probably likely that unless he did something quick, he'd lose it and be over-powered. Kicking the Kaio-Ken up to 4X allowed him to put even more power behind it and knock Vegeta way out into La-La-Land.
Wait, when he knocked Vegeta into "La-La-Land" (Hehehe), he used Kaiou-Ken x4 to do it? I was wondering this when I looked over at the TV when my brother was watching the GT dub (Bleh). I don't think he noted going KKx4 in the dub, or at least, in that flashback. Was it noted that he went KKx4 in the manga? So it would be KKx4+Kamehameha>>>KKx3+Kamehameha=Gallick Gun>KKx3?
I wish I knew where my volume was, so I could look in the manga myself, but I can't find it :oops:
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:18 pm

It's noted to be Kaio-Ken 4X in the manga, Japanese dialogue, and original dub dialogue ^^.

"Kaiou-Ken... yon bai daaaaaa!!!!!"
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:12 pm

Yeah, for some reason, Goku shouting "KAIOKEN....TIMES FOUR!" was left out of the GT dub. *shrugs*

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:46 pm

VegettoEX wrote:It's noted to be Kaio-Ken 4X in the manga, Japanese dialogue, and original dub dialogue ^^.

"Kaiou-Ken... yon bai daaaaaa!!!!!"
Ah, Ok, thanks. I really need to find that volume to review that fight (It's for my power levels...*sigh*), but at least you cleared up all that Kaiou-Ken+Kamehameha stuff
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Post by Duo » Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:51 pm

I have that Volume next to me, I can recite the lines for you! (Its the Shonen Jump/Viz Manga)
Volume 20 of the Dragonball Manga wrote:Goku - KAIO-KEN--TIMES THREE!!!!!

Goku - KA... ME... HA... ME...

Vegeta - YOU'LL NEVER BLOCK MY GYARIKKU-HO...!!!! PREPARE TO DIE WITH THIS WORLD YOU LOVE!!!!!

Yajirobi - DAMN!!!! IF I'D KNOWN I WAS GONNA DIE SO YOUNG I'D HAVE CHOWED DOWN MORE PORK BUNS!!!!

Goku - hY-----AA!!!!

Yajirobi - YEE!!!!!

Vegeta - WH-WHAT--?!!! THAT LOOKS LIKE MY BLAST...!!!!!

Goku - GUUH...!!!!

Vegeta - NNNN...!!!!

Goku - NNN-NG...H!!!!!

Vegeta - AAARR-RRG......H!!!!!

Goku - KAIO...X4...!!!!!
After that he pushes Vegeta back and wins the beam struggle.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:36 pm

M'kay, thanks for the lines :wink:
Duo wrote: Yajirobi - DAMN!!!! IF I'D KNOWN I WAS GONNA DIE SO YOUNG I'D HAVE CHOWED DOWN MORE PORK BUNS!!!!
BEST.LINE.EVER.
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Post by Boomer2k4 » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:34 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:M'kay, thanks for the lines :wink:
Duo wrote: Yajirobi - DAMN!!!! IF I'D KNOWN I WAS GONNA DIE SO YOUNG I'D HAVE CHOWED DOWN MORE PORK BUNS!!!!
BEST.LINE.EVER.
I dunno, for all Funimation's flaws with the translation I did enjoy Vegeta's

"HELLO!! SERVANT WOMAN!!! Bring me a drying cloth!!......WOMAN CAN YOU HEAR ME!!!!" :D

Was worth a few guffaws
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