Dragonball Dethroned

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Dragonball Dethroned

Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 17, 2009 12:45 pm

Well, it was bound to happen. Previously, Dragonball had sold 150 million copies, but now One Piece and it's soon to be 54 volumes have sold 158 million copies.

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Post by Dayspring » Sun May 17, 2009 12:54 pm

Where'd this chart come from and what countries does it represent?

EDIT: And why is it all over the place with information on some of the other series?
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 17, 2009 1:14 pm

Dayspring wrote:Where'd this chart come from and what countries does it represent?

EDIT: And why is it all over the place with information on some of the other series?
Ah, forgot to mention that. It's from 2ch, and I'm not sure if it's global or not (it probably is global).
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Post by B » Sun May 17, 2009 1:25 pm

54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
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Post by Olivier Hague » Sun May 17, 2009 1:29 pm

B wrote:54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
By that logic, Slam Dunk dethroned Dragon Ball a while ago, then...

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 17, 2009 1:30 pm

B wrote:54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
Well, tell that to Captain Tsubasa and Kochikame... :wink:
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Post by SSJ Helldog » Sun May 17, 2009 1:33 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
B wrote:54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
By that logic, Slam Dunk dethroned Dragon Ball a while ago, then...
True; it all depends on how you crunch the numbers. They're close, but if we assume a constant rate of readership for OP, DB will still come out ahead in sales per-book. I wouldn't be surprised if OP got a huge surge when (if ever) it ends.

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Post by B » Sun May 17, 2009 1:34 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
B wrote:54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
By that logic, Slam Dunk dethroned Dragon Ball a while ago, then...
Wait, are you saying that is an incorrect statement? That you CAN'T sell more when you have more? If ten people buy 54 volumes of One Piece, that's 540 copies sold. If ten people buy 42 volumes of Dragon Ball, that's 420 copies sold. Obviously, it is not a strict rule that a longer series sells more, but it definately is a factor in the final number.
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Post by SSJ Helldog » Sun May 17, 2009 1:36 pm

B wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:
B wrote:54(and growing) is a greater number than 42. You can sell more when you have more.
By that logic, Slam Dunk dethroned Dragon Ball a while ago, then...
Wait, are you saying that is an incorrect statement? That you CAN'T sell more when you have more? If ten people buy 54 volumes of One Piece, that's 540 copies sold. If ten people buy 42 volumes of Dragon Ball, that's 420 copies sold. Obviously, it is not a strict rule that a longer series sells more, but it definately is a factor in the final number.
He's agreeing with you, but pointing out that per-book, Slam Dunk has been the king for a while.

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Post by Joey Batz » Sun May 17, 2009 1:59 pm

As much of a Dragon Ball fan as I am, this makes me happy as an even bigger One Piece fan. A truly epic tale. Right now, I'm in the Skypeia Arc in the Skypeia Saga, and the story is just freakin' amazing. One thing I like is how Oda (the author) seems to have story arcs planned ahead and throws little hints of things to come hundreds of chapters in advance, even in the introductory East Blue Saga. Imagine Toriyama including a quick scene every now and then showing a rift in Frieza's empire between Vegeta and other high-ranking members, and imagine that scene being shown while Goku and Krillin are training for the 21st tournament. That's how well Oda seems to have planned out One Piece. I would have never guessed, what with it's cartoony look and all.

Seriously, I would HIGHLY recommend One Piece to anybody! Really well thought out world, likable characters (no room for grouchy emo loners here), epic adventure, awesome fucking shit!!!

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Post by SSj_Rambo » Sun May 17, 2009 2:30 pm

Well, the new cover re-release edition of the tankoubon will probably shorten the gap, temporarily.

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Post by ShinRogafuken » Sun May 17, 2009 2:49 pm

Joey Batz wrote:As much of a Dragon Ball fan as I am, this makes me happy as an even bigger One Piece fan. A truly epic tale. Right now, I'm in the Skypeia Arc in the Skypeia Saga, and the story is just freakin' amazing. One thing I like is how Oda (the author) seems to have story arcs planned ahead and throws little hints of things to come hundreds of chapters in advance, even in the introductory East Blue Saga. Imagine Toriyama including a quick scene every now and then showing a rift in Freeza's empire between Vegeta and other high-ranking members, and imagine that scene being shown while Goku and Krillin are training for the 21st tournament. That's how well Oda seems to have planned out One Piece. I would have never guessed, what with it's cartoony look and all.

Seriously, I would HIGHLY recommend One Piece to anybody! Really well thought out world, likable characters (no room for grouchy emo loners here), epic adventure, awesome fucking shit!!!
100% agree with you there.

Since I'm a manga author, in my manga we aren't releasing Chapter 1 until the Autumn yet the final chapter has already been made 8)

If you're a Dragon Ball fan and you haven't seen One Piece, do it.

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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun May 17, 2009 3:02 pm

Why do we care, anyway? How do we profit by Dragon Ball having a "throne"?

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 17, 2009 3:03 pm

We don't. It was just a neat little factoid is all.
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Post by Krakabeast » Sun May 17, 2009 3:24 pm

These numbers disgust me.
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Post by Olivier Hague » Sun May 17, 2009 3:27 pm

Krakabeast wrote:These numbers disgust me.
OK...?

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Post by Krakabeast » Sun May 17, 2009 3:29 pm

Olivier Hague wrote:
Krakabeast wrote:These numbers disgust me.
OK...?
I'm just not a One Piece fan.
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Post by B » Sun May 17, 2009 3:30 pm

Krakabeast wrote:These numbers disgust me.
Well, they at least make sense.
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Post by Super Ghost Kamikaze » Sun May 17, 2009 3:30 pm

Krakabeast wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:
Krakabeast wrote:These numbers disgust me.
OK...?
I'm just not a One Piece fan.
I'm not either, but I don't see a reason to care, considering we don't benefit from Dragon Ball being "on top".

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Post by B » Sun May 17, 2009 3:33 pm

We had the exclusive right to wave our dicks around, I think.

OP fans are actually running with that thought process quite furiously.
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