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[penguintruth]

I didn't notice them because they weren't important. Gohan still transformed, fought, and killed Cell in the dub did he not? People make it out to seem like Gohan having a monologue is as drastic as them changing it to Cell winning.

It's about mood.

Which sets up Gohan's monumental transformation into an entirely new Super Saiyan better? Gohan in silent shock, then in a burst of rage to a song about exactly that moment, or Gohan inner monologuing obvious conclusions about Android 16 for a few minutes then bursting into rage to generic techno music?

One has subtlety, the other, not so much.

Yes, we could argue about how much subtlety a show about monkey aliens transforming their hair blonde and punching holes in planets has to begin with, but there are moments of great import that were actually handled rather well in the story, and it's insulting for them to be treated with such excessiveness.

But this is all a moot point since they'll be including the dub track on the Dragon Box, too. Everyone wins.

Er, except the Bruce Faucloner fans.

[anvil]

dub or sub, its really up to individual.

I just hope the mass email we all sent to increase the disc count from 6 to 7 will work. I really hope we can get the exact DVD artwork like the Japanese versions. This will really be inline with what Funi said, "we didnt change a damn thing". Since FUNi has said the menus will be the same, so lets hope the DVD artworks are too!!

[SSJ2bardock]

Truly though, my reply was as respectful as yours. I don't see where you get off taking the "high and mighty" approach.

-Corey

Referring to me with the logo for a children's literacy organization was respectful how? If not being a douche bag makes me high and mighty then so be it.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Truly though, my reply was as respectful as yours. I don't see where you get off taking the "high and mighty" approach.

-Corey

Referring to me with the logo for a children's literacy organization was respectful how? If not being a douche bag makes me high and mighty then so be it.

I asked a simple question, you gave a smart-ass reply and got one back in kind. I'd say that's a fair exchange. Switching gears all of the sudden and acting like you were wronged without any sort of provocation is a bit ridiculous.

-Corey

[Dr. Casey]

Corey vs. Bardock is more interesting than most Dragon Ball fights.

[SuperSaiyan3Goku]

People can fight all they want. They can say "This scene was better in English" or "I hate Nozawa's Goku because he sounds way to high-pitched" Waa Waa Waa. At the end of the day, you're watching Dragonball Z. True, subbies think that the version they like is better, and so do the dubbies, but today, most of those "problems" are gone. The Faulconer music is gone from this set. And why can't fans just give the Japanese version a chance? The music is really kick-ass, and for these actors to still be going on in the series today is a good enough reason to at least switch over to the Japanese voice track.

[B]

I didn't notice them because they weren't important. Gohan still transformed, fought, and killed Cell in the dub did he not? People make it out to seem like Gohan having a monologue is as drastic as them changing it to Cell winning.

So...what lines of dialogue were important in the series?

-Corey

The fighting.

Holy crap, thanks for living up to the most ridiculous stereotype of this fanbase!

[Kaboom]

Corey vs. Bardock is more interesting than most Dragon Ball fights.

Not that interesting.

What would Thumper say, guys?

[Krakabeast]

Wow, the forum has been filled with friendly people lately.*sarcasm*

Let's be realistic here:
- Each individual has their own personal preference.
- Each individual is different physically and mentally.
- It's just a cartoon.

Can the arguing stop?

I love Dragon Ball to death, I swear on peoples' lives, but arguing about which version is "better" is just tedious.

Some say the dub is "better" because they don't need to read dialouge and can understand what is being said. Ok, maybe they could be considered lazy. Let them be though because that's how they prefer it. There possibly could be people who read and think much slower than what is typically considered a "normal" pace. Maybe some just love to feel the nostalgia of their childhood like myself.

Some say the original is "better" because it is the original, but would that be correct in every case? In my opinion, no, but hey if they feel better about themselves getting the genuine script, and feel that the JAP VA's fit the characters, than let them. In this case I couldn't give an opinion because I haven't watched DBZ all the way through with subtitles. Also, those who haven't switched from dubbed to subbed may just prefer the dub, but I'm not defending those who haven't given the original version attention if they're aware of its existance. I have more to add, but I'm sleepy, so I'll end it with this.

Can't we all just get along?

[Li'l Lemmy]

No, because the fandom has been fractured into so many pieces over the years that most members count themselves as one thing or another and can no longer recognize each other as all belonging to the same show. Think Star Trek fandom back when TNG was first introduced, only even more childish behavior over a series with nowhere NEAR as much humanity and substance.

Understandable? Yeah, sure. But still embarrassing all the same.


~Da Lemmy

[B]

Some say the dub is "better" because they don't need to read dialouge and can understand what is being said. Ok, maybe they could be considered lazy. Let them be though because that's how they prefer it.

From what I can see, no one is telling anyone else to change how they think/prefer things. It's facts being laid out and people getting bent out of shape over it, like it's a kick to their nuts. The dub is different. I said it. Go lick your wounds somewhere. Is it better or worse? That's all opinion. Which do I think is better? Why? You want to argue for ten pages about it?

I personally don't care how anyone else watches the show besides myself. I have a problem with people whining about simple truths.

[Li'l Lemmy]

The "simple truth" is that this fandom takes itself way too seriously to be taken seriously. Difference of opinion = personal attack? Every single time? What the fuck IS this shit?

For anyone who may be genuinely confused, completely unaware or just plain retarded, not every counterargument a well-meaning person makes is an attempt to chop inches off of your dick and graft them onto his.

And that's my two cents.


~Da Lemmy

[Captain Awesome]

Though it pains me to watch the "FUNimation dub sucks" bandwagon roll by without jumping on the back of it and proceeding to throw manure at everyone that likes Chris Sabat, I've really got to address something that I honestly find incomprehensible.

People that are claiming they are unable to process subtitles without losing track of the show.

Now barring any disabilities the average person should easily be able to process a short line of text in a second or two. I actually fear for the future of the human race, if people's reading and comprehension abilities have sunk so low that it actually borders on stupidity.

I'm all for personal preference, when it comes to dub/sub, but if your inability to keep track of the subtitles is your primary justification for sticking to the dub, then you're basically putting your hand up and saying "I am unable to read at an regular adult level" which I find so utterly ridiculous it actually makes me a little sad.

And really, some of the arguments here are bordering on retarded; (I'm looking at you Inaggadadavida) like claiming that by reading a translation you're viewing the show out of context, unlike dub fans who are getting a more legitimate experience because they aren't reading at the same time. That isn't just clutching at straws, it's also one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

I think personal preference is a perfectly legitimate reason to be a dub fan, but some of the justifications I've seen here in regards to subtitles are completely moronic.

[TheGreatness25]

I agree that processing dialog isn't that big of a deal. But some people like to watch the show in the background while doing something else. This would mean you have to sit there and really focus on the show, which a lot of people don't really do. I can't watch 3 episodes back to back without doing something else like surf the web or want to do something like draw. With subtitles, you have to give your undivided attention to the show or else you're out of the loop.

Anyways, back to a point that was brought up about living up to the biggest stereotype of the fanbase when someone brought up that they were interested in the fighting mostly. Maybe that's not what some people are interested, but those who are interested in just the fighting, aren't they fans of DB/Z/GT too? Or are they worse fans somehow? Last I checked, a huge focus was the fighting. And in DB, the Tenkaichi Tournaments were certainly a huge part of the series. Fighting is what keeps every single character motivated and inspired. And if you go into the "is DBZ deeper than it looks" Thread, you'll see that most people don't feel that it is deeper than it looks. SO...with all this in mind, is someone who is a fan of the show primarily because of the fighting any less of a fan or any worse of a fan for it? Just saying.

[Bussani]

I'm all for personal preference, when it comes to dub/sub, but if your inability to keep track of the subtitles is your primary justification for sticking to the dub, then you're basically putting your hand up and saying "I am unable to read at an regular adult level" which I find so utterly ridiculous it actually makes me a little sad.

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 412#307412

Being able to read the subs and being able to be totally immersed in the show while doing so aren't necessarily the same thing. It wouldn't even need to be black and white, 'either it works for you or it doesn't,' for it to change a person's preference.

The dumbest things can keep me from being immersed in a show. I'm actually surprised that sub related things are never one of them.

...Well, unless there are grammar errors. That throws me right back out.

[Baby Naruto]

It's too bad there will be no English Dub with English Music/Sound Effects Audio Track, I was really looking forward to seeing DBZ in Dragonbox Quality, sigh .

[.:PoetikaL:.]

It's too bad there will be no English Dub with English Music/Sound Effects Audio Track, I was really looking forward to seeing DBZ in Dragonbox Quality, sigh .

This comment is gonna start something... I just know it.

Anyways... if a person doesn't want to read the subs, so be it. To each his own right?

[TheGreatness25]

Exactly. Let the person enjoy the show however they want. Just because someone enjoys watching it one way doesn't mean it has to be shoved down every dub fan's throat.