What you DON'T like about the Actors

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:53 pm

I don't really have a problem with the acting. It's the voices used with some of the characters that I don't like. Overall, the only two I really cannot stand at all are the current English voices for Freeza and Kaio. I pretty much hate the English Freeza voice for the same reasons most people who hate it do.

As for Kaio, he sounds like a slobbering fatass who has no self control or respectability. If it were my choice and I'd have pulled a Kuririn and re-interpreted his voice when the new cast came on.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:54 pm

Kendamu wrote:
As for Kaio, he sounds like a slobbering fatass who has no self control or respectability. If it were my choice and I'd have pulled a Kuririn and re-interpreted his voice when the new cast came on.

Sonny Strait was imitating Terry wasn't he?

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:55 pm

Kendamu wrote:As for Kaio, he sounds like a slobbering fatass who has no self control or respectability.

Yes, oh my goodness yes. Many of the voices are unpleasant to me, but that one is just so grating that I become violent at the source of it whenever I hear it.

HORRIBLE.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:57 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
As for Kaio, he sounds like a slobbering fatass who has no self control or respectability. If it were my choice and I'd have pulled a Kuririn and re-interpreted his voice when the new cast came on.
Sonny Strait was imitating Terry wasn't he?

No way. Kuririn went from something more like this instead of that smoker's frog throat thing he does now. Actually, now it's not so frog throat most of the time, but back in Season 3 when the cast was new his voice was all frog throat.

Sprite Satan · Post by **Sprite Satan** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:59 pm

Dr. Casey wrote:
Kunzait_83 wrote:Also yeah, Muten Roshi's subsquent Japanese VA after Miyauchi passed away.
How did Miyauchi die, out of curiosity? I always thought he was an old man based on his performance of Roshi, but he was actually much younger than I expected (I expected him to be in his 70s, but he was only in his 50s during the original Dragon Ball, where he was of course at his most important. He was 56 at his debut appearance, 59 going on 60 during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai). He only died when he was 65... did he pass away from a heart attack or something? It's a shame. He would only be 80 were he still around, he could have easily survived until the present day, maybe even give an encore rendition of Roshi in Dragon Ball Kai (Which might be even better since he would truly be an old man by this point).

Japanese Wikipedia states he died due to complications resulting from a ruptured abdominal aortic aneurysm.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:01 pm

I always liked King Kai's voice because it fit his goofy personality and appearance well. To me, appearance is one of the most important things when deciding a character's voice. If you really can't see a person actually talking with the voice they have, then it's all wrong. Hence why a lot of dubbies don't like Goku's Japanese voice.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:01 pm

Kendamu wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
As for Kaio, he sounds like a slobbering fatass who has no self control or respectability. If it were my choice and I'd have pulled a Kuririn and re-interpreted his voice when the new cast came on.
Sonny Strait was imitating Terry wasn't he?
No way. Kuririn went from something more like this instead of that smoker's frog throat thing he does now. Actually, now it's not so frog throat most of the time, but back in Season 3 when the cast was new his voice was all frog throat.

Wow frog throat or no Terry's Kuririn voice is and always will be mind numbingly obnoxious to me.

I always took Sonny's voice as a bad impression of Terry though.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:30 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:Wow frog throat or no Terry's Kuririn voice is and always will be mind numbingly obnoxious to me.

I always took Sonny's voice as a bad impression of Terry though.

He sounds a lot better in Seasons 1 & 2 and in the movies. Aside from that, though, I remember reading some interview or article waaaaay back when Season 3 hit TV that they specifically went in a different direction with Kuririn. If you happen to watch the last episode of the original Season 2 dub and then watch the first episode of the original Season 3 dub and you'll see what I mean by "not imitating."

jjgp1112 wrote:I always liked King Kai's voice because it fit his goofy personality and appearance well. To me, appearance is one of the most important things when deciding a character's voice. If you really can't see a person actually talking with the voice they have, then it's all wrong. Hence why a lot of dubbies don't like Goku's Japanese voice.

I certainly don't mind that it's a higher voice. The Ocean cast voice for Kaio was pretty neat even if it wasn't anything like the Japanese voice. It's the fact that FUNi cast Kaio just basically sounds like Goku with his mouth full of whale blubber that bothers me. If the "slobbering fatass" could be taken out of the voice in the way that FUNi Kuririn doesn't sound so frog-throat anymore or how Chris Sabat doesn't sound like bad imitations of Scott McNeil and Briand Drummond anymore.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:10 pm

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:48 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Yeah, her next famous act is Lucky Star. I'm not fan of it and never will only because of her voice acting, what I heard it's the same cup of tea I noted above.....
Damn I'm looking forward to Freeza killing Dende

Like Wendee Lee more?

For me, a situation of not liking a particular actor's role had to do with re-watching said role after watching another series. What I mean is, back in 2005, while watching season 2, I had no problem with Laura Bailey's Dende. But after picking up the box set and after watching Fruits Basket, I keep hearing Tohru a little in that voice. Normally that sort of thing doesn't bother me, but here I kept expecting Dende to move to Tien's house and start hanging with his friends Future Trunks and Namu (guys I mentioned don't sound anything like their actors' FB roles, but just saying).

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:35 pm

Another thing I don't like with both the Japanese and English casts is the idea of one person playing multiple characters in the show. Normally I don't have issues with this(as it is very common with cartoons) but in Dragonball's case it gets kind of bad.

At the start of Chris Sabat's Career, the similarities between all of his character roles were REALLY noticeable. My friends tell me I have a good ear for voice actors but even at age eleven I could tell Sabat was playing Vegeta, Yamcha, and Piccolo. However, in his defense, his work with the characters have all evolved and you can really see differences with his major roles. (though his background characters sound the same but who cares?).

On the Japanese side of things, having Masako Nozawa play Goku, Gohan and Goten gets confusing at times(now this is just my opinion). I think it makes a lot of sense to have basically everyone in the same family played by the same person(see Family Guy) however, there isn't much of a difference between the voices especially when Gohan turns into an Adult in the Buu arc and GT. Scene with Goku and Adult Gohan are especially confusing as it sounds like the same person is talking both times. Its the same reason I got annoyed with Sabat in his early years. I'm hoping that when Kai makes it to the Buu arc we can see some more distinction.

Ironically(because he's been getting attacked in this thread) the reason I like King Kai's Voice in American is because its the only shared voice that doesn't sound like anyone else(In this case Goku). In fact it took me forever to figure out that Sean Schemmel played King Kai as well as Goku.

For the record I liked Sean Schemmel's King Kai as it fits Toriyama's style in that he has the habit of taking someone who is supposed to be this important figure and ends up making him silly and humorous. Not to say Jōji Yanami(had to look that one up) did a bad job, but I was really caught of guard when I heard his voice for the first time. The voice did not match the character, but like you guys said, maybe that was the point.

russ869 · Post by **russ869** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:17 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I hate Masako Nozawa's little KKKKKkkkkKKKK sound thing. It grates my ears.

Heh, normally that doesn't bother me at all with Gokuu. But when I was watching some episodes the other day where Gohan transforms into a gorilla, it just completely drove me nuts because it sounded so stupid and unprofessional. Seriously, it sounds like she's going to ruin her throat making those stupid sounds sometimes.

Uranai Baba's spell chanting is kind of annoying too...

I don't feel like bothering to list things wrong with the English casting. It's all pretty much so obvious that everyone else has already talked about it.

linkdude20002001 · Post by **linkdude20002001** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:50 am

Metalwario64 wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
penguintruth wrote: All of the characters do that, but I like it. It sounds like they're really clenching their teeth and breathing through them. In fact, sometimes I do it myself because of DBZ.
If breathing through your teeth makes a K sound, there's something very wrong with your breathing. Or your teeth.
Seriously... I mean, I always hear about how "T3h dubbz sowdnz leik gay porn and consipitashun!!!!1" but all throughout my life I have always heard people grunting when they are in pain.

Just recently I was watching MSNBC's Lock-up program, and some officers were going through training which involving being tased. When it showed an officer getting tased, he would grunt, not go "KKKghkgkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeecky!!!". I guess you could draw the comparisons of him sounding like he was having an orgasm if your mind is far enough in the gutter, but in reality that's how people sound when in pain...

Honestly, until I started watching anime in Japanese, I had never heard that sound in my life.

You mean this sound? He just sounds angry. I make a "kkkkkk" sound sometimes if I'm angry enough. And not because of Dragon Ball. I've probably heard it in American shows too, actually. I don't get what's so wrong with it.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:32 am

The "KKKghkgkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeecky!!!" sound reminds me of a certain type of Ki breathing done in Karate. I always equated it with that.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:22 am

Kendamu wrote:The "KKKghkgkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeecky!!!" sound reminds me of a certain type of Ki breathing done in Karate. I always equated it with that.

Sounds like some annoying Karate.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:26 am

It always seems to me like an overture to ''kuso''!

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:33 pm

A popular FUNimation one--Chris Sabat. Sometimes, his Vegeta can sound a little scratchy at times, if you know what I mean. A little too gruff. Plus the fact that he sounds too similar to Piccolo. Sabat is good at voicing Piccolo, but at times, especially when they're powering up, there is a resemblance.

I like King Kai's voice. It matches his jokey personality. If people want to complain that it's too goofy, then they should turn to FUNimation's Reacoom.

Sebastian (SB) wrote:That's what happens with age, you'll notice little differences from their performances from before and now. Horikawa's Vegeta in Kai, Wakamoto's Cell in the Sparking! games, and Tanaka's Kuririn being more like Luffy. To Nozawa's credit she's always trying to keep in top form even as older as she gets.

At first, when I became a Dragon Ball fan and began watching FUNimation's DBZ that had FUNimation voices, I was quite taken aback by Nozawa's high-pitched voicing of Son Goku. But now, I don't mind. It's mainly only the dub fans who haven't watched enough of the Japanese dub who complain about Nozawa's Goku. I like Nozawa's Goku--it matches Goku's positive personality and childish nature.

How old is Masako Nozawa now?

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:57 pm

Kendamu wrote:The "KKKghkgkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeecky!!!" sound reminds me of a certain type of Ki breathing done in Karate. I always equated it with that.

I always figured it was just the Japanese variation of "HRGH!" and what not. I mean, they have different words and writings for certain sounds after all.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:23 pm

The characters should sound like real people. This is done well by the original Japanese cast.

Some of the roles in Kai lose that touch a bit...the influence of mainstream Anime today has bled over, where they all sound the same and not terribly real.

And the FUNImation dub has a lot of roles that totally fail in this regard, as mentioned, "King Kai" and Reacoom being prime examples, but there are many many more (ugh Nappa).

The first actor for Kaio in Seasons 1&2 back in the day gave a pretty neat touch to the character.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:31 pm

I don't see why people expect the characters to sound like real people. I mean sure, it was cool that that's what the Japanese version went for, but at the end of the day, this is a show full of battlemaniacs with hairstyles that look like the could be taken from a palm tree, green aliens, ridiculously arrogant pricks with comically huge foreheads, a group of space pirates named after refrigerated foods with various colors and shapes, etc.