[Super Kanzentai]Cell's Maximum Kame Hame Ha

[SSJkid]

Can [Super Kanzentai]Cell's Maximum Kame Hame Ha destroy the whole solar system?

[JulieYBM]

In his boasting he claimed he had enough ki to destroy the solar system, beyond that nobody knows.

[smiley]

This has never been asked before.

[Savage68]

No, it couldn't. It was bullshit on Cell's part; No attack in the series has ever been even hinted at having destructive capabilities anywhere near close to that. Not to mention that we actually saw the attack(and Gohan's) unleash and it was far from planet-busting, let alone solar system.

SSj 3 Vegetto's strongest ki blast couldn't do anything like that, either.

[rereboy]

If Sayan arc Vegeta had enough energy to destroy the Earth, then Super Perfect Cell must have enough energy to destroy the Earth, plus Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and the Sun.

But would his Kamehameha destroy all this if fired? No, because it wouldn`t hit anything besides the Earth, if aimed correctly at it and with that intent. To destroy the Solar System he would have to aim and fire at each one of these planets individually (the sun too).

[JulieYBM]

No, it couldn't. It was bullshit on Cell's part; No attack in the series has ever been even hinted at having destructive capabilities anywhere near close to that. Not to mention that we actually saw the attack(and Gohan's) unleash and it was far from planet-busting, let alone solar system.

SSj 3 Vegetto's strongest ki blast couldn't do anything like that, either.

Cell and Gohan were focusing their ki on each other. Cell also said he had enough ki to destroy the solar system, not that he planned to. He was focusing it all on Gohan instead.

[Savage68]

So what was his claim substantiated by?

[SSJkid]

So what was his claim substantiated by?

It's a shônen manga not a board/bar exam or something. That comment is as clear as it gets, no need to complicate it too much. 12 years olds are supposed to understand that comment and I doubt that Toriyama wanted for them to over-analyze it.

[Bussani]

So what was his claim substantiated by?

Nothing in the manga that I can think of, although Daizenshuu 7 claims that 300 kiri is enough to destroy approximately 1-2 planets (of course, it doesn't tell us the size of those planets), and we know that Goku standing around as a Super Saiyan in the Buu saga has 3,000 kiri. Assuming that's true and that Super Kanzentai Cell's max power was higher than Buu saga SSJ Goku just standing there, he should have had enough power to destroy several planets in one go. Of course, there's still the sun, the fact that everything in the solar system is spread out, etc...

Just throwing this stuff out there and thinking out loud.

[SSJkid]

So what was his claim substantiated by?

Nothing in the manga that I can think of, although Daizenshuu 7 claims that 300 kiri is enough to destroy approximately 1-2 planets (of course, it doesn't tell us the size of those planets), and we know that Goku standing around as a Super Saiyan in the Buu saga has 3,000 kiri. Assuming that's true and that Super Kanzentai Cell's max power was higher than Buu saga SSJ Goku just standing there, he should have had enough power to destroy several planets in one go. Of course, there's still the sun, the fact that everything in the solar system is spread out, etc...

Just throwing this stuff out there and thinking out loud.

Just throwing, Buu destroyed hundred of planets.

[Bussani]

Just throwing, Buu destroyed hundred of planets.

True, but it's likely that he did that over time, rather than with one massive attack. In the manga, anyway -- I forget if there were filler scenes showing it (other than the one where he teleports around blowing planets up).

[Savage68]

I'd just think it odd that if Cell could honestly tank a solar system, characters that far outstrip his power haven't been implied to have powers that operate on a scale anywhere near that.

And the SEG stating that 200-300 kiri is needed to destroy a planet has always struck me as bull. Frieza destroyed one at 530,000(at the most), and SSj Goku in the Buu saga can only destroy a planet roughly 12 times over? Right.

[SSJkid]

I'd just think it odd that if Cell could honestly tank a solar system, characters that far outstrip his power haven't been implied to have powers that operate on a scale anywhere near that.

And the SEG stating that 200-300 kiri is needed to destroy a planet has always struck me as bull. Freeza destroyed one at 530,000(at the most), and SSj Goku in the Buu saga can only destroy a planet roughly 12 times over? Right.

Kiri scaling and Scouter scaling are two different things. Statement about 12 times over or 10 times over is anime filler.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Toriyama Physics: Yes, Cell was capable of destroying the entire solar system with a Kamehameha. Toriyama can do whatever the fuck he likes in his work, even if it makes not one lick of sense. Actually, any shônen manga artist can do whatever the fuck he likes in his work, because it's fiction aimed at 12-year-olds.

In-World Reality Physics: No, as it is scientifically impossible. I think there's been a thread like this, and in it it explains how.

[goku the krump dancer]

If Sayan arc Vegeta had enough energy to destroy the Earth, then Super Perfect Cell must have enough energy to destroy the Earth, plus Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and the Sun.

But would his Kamehameha destroy all this if fired? No, because it wouldn`t hit anything besides the Earth, if aimed correctly at it and with that intent. To destroy the Solar System he would have to aim and fire at each one of these planets individually (the sun too).

Exactly!!!!!.... Plus all of that Ki was aimed at little Gohan, so if Cell had won the struggle the crater would have been just as big as Gohan's. That's just like Vegeta and his Final Flash; I'm pretty sure he could have destroyed more than the Earth, but because he aimed it all towards Cell, the most he did was cause an earthquake. There are also many examples where the opposite somewhat happens, in that the planet or area was the target. Cell (2nd form) is one example where he used those tiny energy blasts to destroy entire islands when looking for 18. Also when Broly destroyed that planet with a basketball sized energy ball.

[Savage68]

I'd just think it odd that if Cell could honestly tank a solar system, characters that far outstrip his power haven't been implied to have powers that operate on a scale anywhere near that.

And the SEG stating that 200-300 kiri is needed to destroy a planet has always struck me as bull. Freeza destroyed one at 530,000(at the most), and SSj Goku in the Buu saga can only destroy a planet roughly 12 times over? Right.

Kiri scaling and Scouter scaling are two different things. Statement about 12 times over or 10 times over is anime filler.

Kiri scaling is different than scouter scaling? ORLY?

Yeah, I know. That doesn't change what I said. And the statement I made wasn't anywhere in the anime.