Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Godo » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:49 pm

Blue wrote:
Godo wrote: *etc*
It's basic manners in pretty much all English speaking countries and Japan. I'm pretty sure Piccolo (the user) falls into one of those groups. You're referring to a person that lives in Japan therefore I think it's proper to use Japanese manners. Mike pretty much wants us to do this so why not? Is it really hard to type out "Toriyama"? Is it really awful to expect people to use common English manners on an English speaking forum? Much like how we expect people to use proper English spelling and grammar.

I'm not saying "well screw your customs" just when in Rome y'know?
I'm not saying that it's something hard to do, hell, I am even typing it out all the time.
One thing that confuses me is that you say that when you speak about someone from Japan, you use Japanese manners. But that's not how it works. I have been in many countries and I speak several languages fluently, and that's never the case. You use the manners of the country you are in at the moment.
To use proper English and proper grammar is something that is clear for a functioning board. But on the Internet, I don't see why people should adapt their manners just because the board's admin is an American.
The Internet isn't a country. It's a connection point to people from all the Earth. I don't see how one would restrict mannerisms just because of that.
If people are offended by someone typing "Akira" instead of "Toriyama", be assured that if the person is from another country, they are not trying to offend the man, and that's just common knowledge to know. Respect doesn't only lie in how one presents someone's name.
I myself wouldn't ever put that kind of restriction on anyone, especially when I run a board when people from all of the world are welcome.
But then I don't know whether Mike wants it this way or if the general board visitors frown upon using Toriyama's first name only.

Just sayin'. And I shouldn't have posted this much off topic to begin with so I apologize, and I would like to refer any further conversation via PM if possible (if it's only directed to me, not if it's for public knowledge), so that we can continue the topic.

To contribute a little bit:

One of the moments that I would like to see is when Pan met her husband. As I understand it, Goku Jr. is Pan's grandchild, right? What happened in between?
Who in their right state of mind would date Pan, and marry her, and provide the seed to her offspring, who in turn would create Goku Jr.?
Somehow I doubt that it was romantic to begin with.
Anyone got thoughts about it? :P

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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by caejones » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:14 pm

Godo wrote: One of the moments that I would like to see is when Pan met her husband. As I understand it, Goku Jr. is Pan's grandchild, right? What happened in between?
Who in their right state of mind would date Pan, and marry her, and provide the seed to her offspring, who in turn would create Goku Jr.?
Somehow I doubt that it was romantic to begin with.
Anyone got thoughts about it? :P
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:55 am

Blue wrote:
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Blue wrote: How do you know they aren't drinking buddies? :wink:
Just because I'm not friends/drinking buddies with him, doesn't mean I can't call him by his first name.
Yeah it's actually considered really disrespectful though. I wouldn't go to your parents house and call them by their first names unless directed otherwise. Of course I'm pretty sure you'll fight against this point and I really don't feel like arguing with someone about basic manners so whatever. Do what you like.
In Australia, America and a lot of other English speaking countries, calling someone by their first name isn't that taboo like it is in Japan.

Akira Toriyama isn't going to go on the Daizex forums and read my posts, so I'm not showing him disrespect by calling him by his first name. Even if he actually did see my posts, he isn't going to get offended or anything like that.

Just because he is Japanese doesn't mean I have to be super polite and call him Mr. Toriyama or if you want to be a weeaboo about it, Toriyama sensei. That's like calling a Spanish or Mexican person, "senor".

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Post by Xyex » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:53 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
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Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Just because I'm not friends/drinking buddies with him, doesn't mean I can't call him by his first name.
Yeah it's actually considered really disrespectful though. I wouldn't go to your parents house and call them by their first names unless directed otherwise. Of course I'm pretty sure you'll fight against this point and I really don't feel like arguing with someone about basic manners so whatever. Do what you like.
In Australia, America and a lot of other English speaking countries, calling someone by their first name isn't that taboo like it is in Japan.
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I don't know what world you live in, but it's obviously not this one. Only an idiot would call one of their teachers, or someone they don't actually know (and who isn't famous by their first name), by their first name, unless the person asks them too. It's not 'taboo' to use a first name, it's just disrespectful if you're not their friend or they haven't requested it.
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Akira Toriyama isn't going to go on the Daizex forums and read my posts, so I'm not showing him disrespect by calling him by his first name. Even if he actually did see my posts, he isn't going to get offended or anything like that.
This is the lamest excuse I have ever seen. Just because someone isn't going to see it doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. :?
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Just because he is Japanese doesn't mean I have to be super polite
Super polite? The hell? It's not "super polite" it's basic, standard, every day manners. You'd better learn them if you want to get anywhere in life. :?
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:05 am

Xyex wrote: I don't know what world you live in, but it's obviously not this one. Only an idiot would call one of their teachers, or someone they don't actually know (and who isn't famous by their first name), by their first name, unless the person asks them too. It's not 'taboo' to use a first name, it's just disrespectful if you're not their friend or they haven't requested it.
I wouldn't call my teachers by their first names, unless they requested it but Toriyama isn't here so I can't ask him what name he prefers. Maybe he's a nice guy who doesn't care if you call him by his first name. :P
Xyex wrote: This is the lamest excuse I have ever seen. Just because someone isn't going to see it [/i] it doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. :?
Again, it's not like he's going to get offended if I call him by his first name.
Xyex wrote: Super polite? The hell? It's not "super polite" it's basic, standard, every day manners. You'd better learn them if you want to get anywhere in life. :?
In real life I would call him Mr. Toriyama or Sir, but on the internet it's a different story. People don't exactly use manners on the internet to say the least.

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Post by Thanos6 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:27 am

And here I thought I was the master at dragging things offtopic. ;)
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Post by Greenman » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:49 am

Scarz wrote:Maybe a top 5 bromances list should be written so we can settle this stupid "gay or friends" conversation.
God yes. That list needs to be made.

Please.

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Post by Xyex » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:41 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:In real life I would call him Mr. Toriyama or Sir, but on the internet it's a different story. People don't exactly use manners on the internet to say the least.
"In case you haven't noticed you're being very rude. ... You have to understand, it's the same as the real world!"

*cough*

Anyway, this whole "it's the internet" thing has always annoyed me. So what if it's the internet? That doesn't suddenly change the rules.
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Scarz wrote:Maybe a top 5 bromances list should be written so we can settle this stupid "gay or friends" conversation.
God yes. That list needs to be made.
Please.
I'll take just a quick stab at it....

5 Goku and Vegeta

4 Goku and Krillin

3 Piccolo and Gohan

2 Goten and Trunks

1 Tie­n and Chaotzu
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:57 am

Good list, but I would replace Gohan and Piccolo with Yamcha and Tenshinhan.

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Post by Greenman » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:02 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Good list, but I would replace Gohan and Piccolo with Yamcha and Tenshinhan.
Yamcha/Tenshinhan higher than Gohan/Piccolo? No way. Gohan and Piccolo pretty much love each other, which is a lot more than you can say about Yamcha and Ten.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:11 am

Greenman wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Good list, but I would replace Gohan and Piccolo with Yamcha and Tenshinhan.
Yamcha/Tenshinhan higher than Gohan/Piccolo? No way. Gohan and Piccolo pretty much love each other, which is a lot more than you can say about Yamcha and Ten.
I dunno, Yamcha/Tenshinhan have more of a bromance thing going on. Gohan/Piccolo have more of a student/master thing going on, plus Piccolo is Namekian.

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Post by DNA » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:26 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I dunno, Yamcha/Tenshinhan have more of a bromance thing going on. Gohan/Piccolo have more of a student/master thing going on, plus Piccolo is Namekian.
Now that's just racist, just because he's a Namekian... And I don't remember any bromance between Yamcha and Tenshinhan, what I remember is someone breaking someone else's leg. (In b4 cat loves food, nobody cares).

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:31 am

DNA wrote: what I remember is someone breaking someone else's leg.

By the way, how'd that heal up?



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Post by Godo » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:23 am

Yamcha and Tenshinhan were just normal friends and sparring partners. I mean, Yamcha never knew where Tenshinhan was hiding, when he trained in the mountains ect. If they were that close, one would think that they would hang out more often.
Whereas we have Piccolo and Gohan who visit eachother frequently, and hang around with eachother. But I would call their relation more like a father and son one, rather than a bromance.
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1. Tenshinhan and Chao-zu
2. Goku and Vegeta
3. Goku and Kuririn
4. Yajirobe and Kvitte (Karin)
5. Freeza and Captain Ginyu

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Post by johnboy1 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:10 pm

Xyex wrote:Anyway, this whole "it's the internet" thing has always annoyed me. So what if it's the internet? That doesn't suddenly change the rules.
Actually, it kind of does. Not on this board, because EX runs a tight ship, but in general, the Internet is devoid of any and all forms of etiquette. The fact that no one knows who you are makes it okay to say anything to anyone for any reason. In the absence of consequences, rules cease to exist.
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Post by Big Momma » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:20 pm

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Xyex wrote:Anyway, this whole "it's the internet" thing has always annoyed me. So what if it's the internet? That doesn't suddenly change the rules.
Actually, it kind of does. Not on this board, because EX runs a tight ship, but in general, the Internet is devoid of any and all forms of etiquette. The fact that no one knows who you are makes it okay to say anything to anyone for any reason. In the absence of consequences, rules cease to exist.
That doesn't make it okay, just more frequent.

Also, that doesn't mean the entire system is right, either. Just because you can/don't have to, doesn't mean you should/shouldn't.
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Post by Xyex » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:24 pm

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Xyex wrote:Anyway, this whole "it's the internet" thing has always annoyed me. So what if it's the internet? That doesn't suddenly change the rules.
Actually, it kind of does. Not on this board, because EX runs a tight ship, but in general, the Internet is devoid of any and all forms of etiquette. The fact that no one knows who you are makes it okay to say anything to anyone for any reason. In the absence of consequences, rules cease to exist.
That doesn't make it okay, just more frequent.

Also, that doesn't mean the entire system is right, either. Just because you can/don't have to, doesn't mean you should/shouldn't.
Exactly. Because you can has never been a valid reason for... anything. I'll admit that I'm braver on-line than I am in person, because I've got the protection of anonymity and what-have-you. And if I make myself look like a dumbass, at least I don't have to look you in the eye afterward. But none of it excuses throwing out proper manners. If you wouldn't do it/say it to someone's face there's no reason to do it/say it on-line.
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Post by Bussani » Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:28 pm

johnboy1 wrote:
Xyex wrote:Anyway, this whole "it's the internet" thing has always annoyed me. So what if it's the internet? That doesn't suddenly change the rules.
Actually, it kind of does. Not on this board, because EX runs a tight ship, but in general, the Internet is devoid of any and all forms of etiquette. The fact that no one knows who you are makes it okay to say anything to anyone for any reason. In the absence of consequences, rules cease to exist.
That's like saying etiquette doesn't exist in real life because some people are still jackasses there. If you think being anonymous makes it okay, then you're just perpetuating the problem.

I had a whole class on Internet etiquette, once.
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Bussani wrote:That's like saying etiquette doesn't exist in real life because some people are still jackasses there.
It's not the same thing at all. If a jackass is too jackass-y in real life, there can be painful consequences (physical, legal, or financial, depending on with whom he crosses the line). Online, as long as the jackass steers clear of a very few certain people (people smart enough and disturbed enough to find out who he is), there's no reason for him not to be a jackass. The argument isn't that other people do it, it's that there's no consequences for doing it.
Xyex wrote:Because you can has never been a valid reason for... anything.
Not saying it was. However, if no one can stop him, does it really matter if it's valid or not?
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Post by Bussani » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:29 pm

You're missing the point. "It's the Internet" isn't an acceptable comeback. It's pathetic, and it won't make anyone say: "Oh, I guess you're right. Feel free to go back to being an asshole."

I don't care that people can say what they want and get away with it online. I just find it asinine when someone uses "it's the Internet" to try to excuse their actions. I don't accept that as an excuse, personally.
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