Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I'd also like to take this opportunity to report that the sky is blue.

Well, Mr.sarcasm not everyone know what a Dim Sum is! and knowing Dim Sum is not easy as look at the sky!

[penguintruth]

That's Piccolo as written by Toei, not Toriyama, not enough to go on for me. I'm taking about the manga adapted anime here, the real Piccolo.

Because Piccolo is so out of character in the movies, amirite?

[MR.Mark]

Because Piccolo is so out of character in the movies, amirite?

He may not dance around and fart, but all he usually does is show up and save Gohan and get his ass kicked. Hardly much to really judge whether Scott nailed the character or not. Hell, even Kurirn pointed out that fact!

[penguintruth]

Maybe he'll get his chance, if Sean Schemmel is right about their being an Ocean dub for Kai.

[MR.Mark]

Maybe he'll get his chance, if Sean Schemmel is right about their being an Ocean dub for Kai.

If that turns out to be true, I'd be genuinely interested, especially if they use more correct terms, names etc.

But if it's anything like that rushed alternate DBZ dub debacle, count me out.

[penguintruth]

Maybe he'll get his chance, if Sean Schemmel is right about their being an Ocean dub for Kai.

If that turns out to be true, I'd be genuinely interested, especially if they use more correct terms, names etc.

But if it's anything like that rushed alternate DBZ dub debacle, count me out.

A good point. I hope they at least take their time, even if I have a feeling they'll be using replacement music.

[MR.Mark]

replacement music.

(I'm out)

Sorry Scott, looks like Sabat's the definitive English Piccolo from here on out.

[penguintruth]

replacement music.

(I'm out)

Sorry Scott, looks like Sabat's the definitive English Piccolo from here on out.

Come on. It's not like replacement music changes whether the VA performances are good or not. :p

[MR.Mark]

Come on. It's not like replacement music changes whether the VA performances are good or not. :p

Nope, that's a deal breaker, in fact the thought of music STILL being changed in this day and age of dubbing disgusts me.

Plus the more I think about it, the more I can't picture Scott bringing out the uncle side of big green. I can't wait to see how Chris interacts with Goten and Trunks in Kai. With the voice he has now for the character, it's sure to sound fantastic!

[DemonRin]

You're forgetting about the Ocean dubs of the first three movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80u__4SDjhA

Wow, I just watched that entire clip, and Sabat's new Kai Piccolo sounds NOTHING like that to me whatsoever.

Sorry, but it's hard to argue that his Piccolo is a "Ripoff" of anyone when his most recent Piccolo voice is so incredibly close to his natural speaking voice.

It's like "Sorry Sabat, you naturally sound a little, kinda, maybe, sorta like Scott McNeil to this one guy, and only this one guy, so you're a total ripoff of him"

[G1Ravage]

You're forgetting about the Ocean dubs of the first three movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80u__4SDjhA

And this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuViG2-w ... re=related

I have mixed feelings about Peter Kelamis, but this is his Goku at its absolute best. He sounds like an unleashed beast.

The uncut dubs of Movies 1 through 3 from Pioneer were the epitome of "good dub" and "good home release" at that time.

[penguintruth]

It's like "Sorry Sabat, you naturally sound a little, kinda, maybe, sorta like Scott McNeil to this one guy, and only this one guy, so you're a total ripoff of him"

Yeah, because a couple of people disagreeing with me is equal to everyone disagreeing with me, right?

You're forgetting about the Ocean dubs of the first three movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80u__4SDjhA

And this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuViG2-w ... re=related

I have mixed feelings about Peter Kelamis, but this is his Goku at its absolute best. He sounds like an unleashed beast.

The uncut dubs of Movies 1 through 3 from Pioneer were the epitome of "good dub" and "good home release" at that time.

I was talking about McNeil's Piccolo... but yeah, Kelamis is great as Goku in the movies.

[Innagadadavida]

I was talking about McNeil's Piccolo... but yeah, Kelamis is great as Goku in the movies.

Reading you talk this guy up so much I was expecting much more. I didn't like that performance at all. That voice just doesn't fit.

[penguintruth]

I was talking about McNeil's Piccolo... but yeah, Kelamis is great as Goku in the movies.

Reading you talk this guy up so much I was expecting much more. I didn't like that performance at all. That voice just doesn't fit.

Whose? Kelamis? It fits better than Schemmel's, at least. Captures more of that Goku spirit.

And McNeil's Piccolo is practically Toshio Furukawa's in English.

[MR.Mark]

Wow, I just watched that entire clip, and Sabat's new Kai Piccolo sounds NOTHING like that to me whatsoever.

Yep, Scott's Piccolo, at least in the clip provided, is very monster-like, very demonic. That monster like tone is dead and gone from Sabat's current Piccolo, not a trace left at all. What I get from Chris's Kai Piccolo is a strict harsh deep tone with moments of Nobility. Remind you of anyone? I'll give you a hint, Toshio Furukawa.

[penguintruth]

Wow, I just watched that entire clip, and Sabat's new Kai Piccolo sounds NOTHING like that to me whatsoever.

Yep, Scott's Piccolo, at least in the clip provided, is very monster-like, very demonic. That monster like tone is dead and gone from Sabat's current Piccolo, not a trace left at all. What I get from Chris's Kai Piccolo is a strict harsh deep tone with moments of Nobility. Remind you of anyone? I'll give you a hint, Toshio Furukawa.

That's laughable. McNeil's Piccolo has more of the arrogant snark, a sort of superiority complex to it similar to Vegeta's (or the Japanese Vegeta, at least), the way Furukawa's Piccolo is. Sabat's has shades of this now, too, but isn't nearly as good.

[MR.Mark]

I have mixed feelings about Peter Kelamis, but this is his Goku at its absolute best.

Indeed, some times he's great, most of the time he just sounds odd with that speech inflection of his. I'm all for making Goku talk with more "character" like say bad grammar, but what's next, making Christopher Walken voice him?

Kinda reminds me of Masako X with that weird lisp he seems to have.

[penguintruth]

I have mixed feelings about Peter Kelamis, but this is his Goku at its absolute best.

Indeed, some times he's great, most of the time he just sounds odd with that speech inflection of his. I'm all for making Goku talk with more "character" like say bad grammar, but what's next, making Christopher Walken voice him?

Kinda reminds me of Masako X with that weird lisp he seems to have.

MasakoX is almost a perfect English dub Goku, though.

[MR.Mark]

That's laughable. McNeil's Piccolo has more of the arrogant snark, a sort of superiority complex to it similar to Vegeta's (or the Japanese Vegeta, at least), the way Furukawa's Piccolo is. Sabat's has shades of this now, too, but isn't nearly as good.

Nah, McNeil is good, but that monster voice would be best suited to his first fight against Goku, followed by his fight with Goku against Raditz. I just don't think of Scotts voice when I see Piccolo bonding with Gohan, fighting Freeza, merging with Kami, and eventually being the uncle figure to Goten and Trunks. The core of Piccolo's character is the strict but wise noble teacher, I don't hear that in Scott's Piccolo at all, just mostly the "badass", but that's just a part of the character.

MasakoX is almost a perfect English dub Goku, though.

Actually he's not, though.

[penguintruth]

Nah, McNeil is good, but that monster voice would be best suited to his first fight against Goku, followed by his fight with Goku against Raditz. I just don't think of Scotts voice when I see Piccolo bonding with Gohan, fighting Freeza, merging with Kami, and eventually being the uncle figure to Goten and Trunks. The core of Piccolo's character is the strict but wise noble teacher, I don't hear that in Scott's Piccolo at all, just mostly the "badass", but that's just a part of the character.

McNeil's Piccolo can sound sage, too, and handled the bits of training with Gohan really well in the Ocean dub, despite the poor script. Sabat is just going to sound like an asshole. He's utterly incapable of showing any more than that in his Piccolo.

Actually he's not, though.

Actually, he is. He captures pretty much all the qualities of Masako Nozawa's Goku, but appropriately for an English-speaking audience.

Who do you think is a good English Goku? Sean "Gravelly Screaming" Schemmel and his complete lack of understanding of the character?