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Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:40 am

Poster's Note: I put "original" in quotes because technically the original Gohan is obviously Masako Nozawa, but Stephanie is the original voice actress for Gohan since FUNimation started using their in-house voice cast.

Okay, so...I'm not sure my opinions on Gohan's voice are particularly important here, but for the sake of clarifying any suspicion that I have a "hidden motive," I will tell them. I didn't particularly like Stephanie as kid Gohan because her rasp in her voice just didn't make him sound like a kid. However, I loved her as teen Gohan and thought her voice sounded very realistically like a teenager whose voice is just beginning to drop. As for Colleen Clinkenbeard, I massively preferred Colleen's Gohan as a kid. I can't comment on her as teen Gohan because, well...ya know. It hasn't happened yet.

Anyway. With that out of the way, here's my real question. I happened to be reading Stephanie's wikipedia page, and the last sentence in her biographic section reads exactly like this:

"She will not be reprising her role of Gohan for Dragon Ball Z Kai due to creative differences with Christopher Sabat."

Is there any truth to this? Obviously anybody can edit wikipedia, so I took this with a grain of salt. On the other hand, it would make sense considering that Stephanie is apparently still in the area, did Gohan again as recently as the "Raging Blast" videogame, and also because Chris Sabat in particular seems to be very proud of Colleen's casting. Does anybody know for certain, though, if this is why Stephanie didn't return?
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by KakaR0T » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:43 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I took this with a grain of salt.
What does that expression mean?

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:45 am

That's another way of saying, "I'm not sure I believe that." Especially since anybody can edit wikipedia. If I wanted to go to George Bush's wikipedia and replace his biographic section with the lyrics to a Tenacious D song, I could.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:50 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote: "She will not be reprising her role of Gohan for Dragon Ball Z Kai due to creative differences with Christopher Sabat."
I wouldn't be surprised, Chris more or less stated in his blog, though politely and subtlety, that the replacements for Bulma and Gohan are better actresses.

He was right, they are WAY better, makes me wish all the more that the kai dub was recast from the ground up, oh the possibility's...

At least this bodes well for new Freeza, common episode 19!

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:53 am

MR.Mark wrote:
TheBlackPaladin wrote: "She will not be reprising her role of Gohan for Dragon Ball Z Kai due to creative differences with Christopher Sabat."
I wouldn't be surprised, Chris more or less stated in his blog, though politely and subtlety, that the replacements for Bulma and Gohan are better actresses.

He was right, they are WAY better, makes me wish all the more that the kai dub was recast from the ground up, oh the possibility's...

At least this bodes well for new Freeza, common episode 19!
Well, it's good to know we agree about something.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:01 am

penguintruth wrote: Well, it's good to know we agree about something.
This really has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I let you have the last word, wasn't that enough for you? Now you must follow me into other threads... :roll:

Ps Chris Sabat is better. (since your derailing the topic anyhow.)

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:16 am

I was talking about the topic at hand by agreeing with your sentiment that the new voices for Gohan and Bulma are better than their previous ones. I didn't follow you anywhere. I was a member of this board before you and this was the newest thread.

Stop flattering yourself, you halfwit.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:22 am

Nope, you said "Well, it's good to know we agree about something", not, "I agree, Bulma's and Gohan's voices are good". Your comment was the weasels last fart.

You were a member of this board before me? Ok that's awesome, I was a fan of this franchise before you, your point? Also, weren't you warned about the personal attacks?

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by Taku128 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:23 am

penguintruth wrote:I was talking about the topic at hand by agreeing with your sentiment that the new voices for Gohan and Bulma are better than their previous ones. I didn't follow you anywhere. I was a member of this board before you and this was the newest thread.

Stop flattering yourself, you halfwit.
I like how you called him a fucktard, then edited it out and called him a halfwit instead.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:26 am

MR.Mark wrote:Nope, you said "Well, it's good to know we agree about something", not, "I agree, Bulma's and Gohan's voices are good". Your comment was the weasels last fart.

You were a member of this board before me? Ok that's awesome, I was a fan of this franchise before you, your point? Also, weren't you warned about the personal attacks?
Your increasing stupidity baffles me. What did you think I was talking about when I agreed with you? That you even lack the elementary comprehension skills most people pick up on in grade school makes me wonder if even Dragon Ball is a little too over your head.

Somebody posting in the same thread you're in does not qualify as following you. That I have to explain this to you kills something inside of me.

Also, you've derailed the thread entirely.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:32 am

After a back and forth about Scott McNeil, in which I let you have the last word you crave so much. Your trying to tell me your comment had absolutely nothing to due with that debate? Please spare me, it also makes you look like a insecure person when you insult people's intelligence, and an even bigger hypocrite when you call me a "fucktard".

Maybe I overreacted a little at first in this thread, but this is just plain nasty rude behavior. Seriously, how your able to get away with this boggles the mind.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:36 am

Is the topic about Scott McNeil relevant to this thread? Was it brought up beforehand? Was your post that I responded to about it?

No? Then, herp de derp, you can assume I was talking about... *gasp* the topic of this thread!

Especially since, if you had spent more than a day on this board, you'd know I'm a huge fan of the work Clinkenbeard and Rial have done in these roles. But I shouldn't have to explain that.
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Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by TripleRach » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:36 am

penguintruth wrote:Your increasing stupidity baffles me.
And the increasing attitude problems baffle me. This is ridiculous. Personal insults and feuds do not belong here at all. Everyone, cut it out.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by MR.Mark » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:42 am

penguintruth wrote: But I shouldn't have to explain that.
This actually sums up what I have a problem with, and I'm not the only one. People on this board actually want to debate in intelligent discussion about a franchise we love. If you're to lazy to do so maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

Reality check, if people have to keep asking you to explain WHY you feel a certain way about your opinions, you're not presenting them well enough.

"herp de derp" indeed

I will not derail this topic any further, TheBlackPaladin , I apologies for partly ruining your thread.
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:43 am

Can you guys do this through PMs?
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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by penguintruth » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:47 am

MR.Mark wrote:
penguintruth wrote: But I shouldn't have to explain that.
This actually sums up what I have a problem with, and I'm not the only one. People on this board actually want to debate in intelligent discussion about a franchise we love. If you're to lazy to do so maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

Reality check, if people have to keep asking you to explain WHY you feel a certain way about your opinions, you're not presenting them well enough.

"herp de derp" indeed
Nay sir, it is you who have failed to support your arguments, and yet you are blind to the copious amount of details I have supplied to my own.

Also, I didn't see any "intelligent debating" when I actually agreed with something you said and you snapped at me for thinking I was carrying over an argument from another thread, without any evidence of that.

On the topic of the new Gohan, as I said, I rather enjoy Clinkenbeard's Gohan, and think we should wait to see how she handles Gohan during the Cell Game, when he's a bit older, before we decide she can't handle him in that part.
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Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:48 am

jjgp1112 wrote:Can you guys do this through PMs?
Seriously. This isn't at all what I was asking. *Walks over to the Moderator Altar and prays to Mike for intervention.*
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Re: Question Regarding Stephanie Nadolny (the "original" Gohan)

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:52 am

To answer the original question: As far as I know, we haven't been privy to any reason on why Nadolny and others have been recasted other than sentiments of, "this is better." I'm afraid that's probably the best answer we have to go by so far, TheBlackPaladin. Anything beyond that is speculation.

That aside... Seriously, guys? MR.Mark, you're seriously out of line starting up arguments without provocation or any good reason. penguintruth, lay off with the condescending attitude, though that can go for both of you.

Since TripleRach already asked you to cool it but you ignored her, I see no reason why this should be allowed to continue any further.
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