Budokai Tenkaichi Character Estimation
Moderators: General Help, Kanzenshuu Staff
- ngnikolaos
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 318
- Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:17 pm
- Location: Greece
Budokai Tenkaichi Character Estimation
Give your thoughts.
1 ) Goku
2 ) Gohan, Kid
3 ) Piccolo
4 ) Kuririn
5 ) Yamcha
6 ) Tien
7 ) Chiaotzu
8 ) Yajirobe
9 ) Raditz
10 ) Saibaiman
11 ) Nappa
12 ) Vegeta
13 ) Kewie
14 ) Dodoria
15 ) Zarbon
16 ) Gurudo
17 ) Recoome
18 ) Baata
19 ) Jiisu
20 ) Ginew
21 ) Freeza
22 ) Mirai Trunks
23 ) #16
24 ) #17
25 ) #18
26 ) #19
27 ) #20 (Dr.Gero)
28 ) Cell
29 ) Cell Junior
30 ) Gohan, Teen
31 ) Gohan, Adult
32 ) Great Saiyaman
33 ) Goten
34 ) Trunks
35 ) Videl
36 ) Darbura
37 ) Boo
38 ) Super Boo
39 ) Mr. Satan
40 ) Gotenks
41 ) Gogeta
42 ) Vegeto
43 ) Kid Boo
44 ) Bardock
45 ) Turles
46 ) Oozaru (anyone; possibly Vegeta)
47 ) Dr. Wheelo
48 ) Cooler
49 ) Brolly
50 ) Janemba
51 ) #15
52 ) #14
53 ) #13
54 ) Bojack
55 ) Zangya
56 ) Chi-chi
57-60 ) What-if fusions
Heh. Gone are the good ol' days when the game would have 8-10 characters, and you would have to really put some thought on WHO would be in it. Now, with a roster of 60 characters, the easy part is to say who's in it. The HARD part is to say who's out of it!!
1 ) Goku
2 ) Gohan, Kid
3 ) Piccolo
4 ) Kuririn
5 ) Yamcha
6 ) Tien
7 ) Chiaotzu
8 ) Yajirobe
9 ) Raditz
10 ) Saibaiman
11 ) Nappa
12 ) Vegeta
13 ) Kewie
14 ) Dodoria
15 ) Zarbon
16 ) Gurudo
17 ) Recoome
18 ) Baata
19 ) Jiisu
20 ) Ginew
21 ) Freeza
22 ) Mirai Trunks
23 ) #16
24 ) #17
25 ) #18
26 ) #19
27 ) #20 (Dr.Gero)
28 ) Cell
29 ) Cell Junior
30 ) Gohan, Teen
31 ) Gohan, Adult
32 ) Great Saiyaman
33 ) Goten
34 ) Trunks
35 ) Videl
36 ) Darbura
37 ) Boo
38 ) Super Boo
39 ) Mr. Satan
40 ) Gotenks
41 ) Gogeta
42 ) Vegeto
43 ) Kid Boo
44 ) Bardock
45 ) Turles
46 ) Oozaru (anyone; possibly Vegeta)
47 ) Dr. Wheelo
48 ) Cooler
49 ) Brolly
50 ) Janemba
51 ) #15
52 ) #14
53 ) #13
54 ) Bojack
55 ) Zangya
56 ) Chi-chi
57-60 ) What-if fusions
Heh. Gone are the good ol' days when the game would have 8-10 characters, and you would have to really put some thought on WHO would be in it. Now, with a roster of 60 characters, the easy part is to say who's in it. The HARD part is to say who's out of it!!
"Destiny"... people claim by force what they desire, wreak havoc upon others in order to acquire it... and they call it "destiny".
- Fuujin
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 329
- Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:43 am
- Location: Fun Fun Poland Commie Land
I tried to do an alternative one, counting transformations as different characters, just to see if they'd manage to keep their promises like "every baddie in the series" with comperatively little room left because of character slots filled with transformations.
First, for the characters who have different forms:
1. Goku
2. Goku SSJ
3. Goku SSJ3
4. Vegeta
5. Vegeta SSJ
6. Majin Vegeta
7. Lil' Gohan
8. Gohan SSJ
9. Gohan SSJ2
10. Great Saiyaman/Teen Gohan
11. Mystic Gohan
12. Adult Trunks
13. Adult Trunks SSJ
14. Adult Trunks USSJ
15. Lil' Trunks
16. Lil' Trunks SSJ
17. Lil' Goten
18. Lil' Goten SSJ
19. Gotenks
20. Gotenks SSJ
21. Gotenks SSJ3
22. Vegetto
23. Super Vegetto
24. Super Gogeta
25. Freeza form 1
26. Freeza form 2
27. Freeza form 3
28. Freeza form 4
29. Freeza 100%
30. Imperfect Cell
31. Semi-Perfect Cell
32. Perfect Cell
33. Super Perfect Cell
34. Fat Buu
35. Super Buu 1
36. Super Buu 2
37. Super Buu 3
38. Kid Buu
Now, the ones we can be pretty sure about:
39. Janenba
40. Chaotzu
41. Guldo
42. Recoome
43. Burter
44. Jeice
45. Ginyu
46. Oozaru
47. Android #16
48. Android #17
49. Android #18
50. Android #19
51. Android #20
52. Cooler
53. Brolly
Oops, forgot about Piccolo:
54. Piccolo
55. Super Namek Piccolo
If Chaotzu's there, you can bet these guys will be too:
56. Kuririn
57. Yamcha
58. Tenshinhan
Did they say ALL the Saiyans? If so, we should count:
59. Raditz
60. Nappa
That's it. No room for "every baddie in the series" like Zarbon or Dabura or more movie characters that developers seem to try to add. So by this logic it's safer to assume that those 60 characters are not counting transformations. However, it all remains to be seen.
First, for the characters who have different forms:
1. Goku
2. Goku SSJ
3. Goku SSJ3
4. Vegeta
5. Vegeta SSJ
6. Majin Vegeta
7. Lil' Gohan
8. Gohan SSJ
9. Gohan SSJ2
10. Great Saiyaman/Teen Gohan
11. Mystic Gohan
12. Adult Trunks
13. Adult Trunks SSJ
14. Adult Trunks USSJ
15. Lil' Trunks
16. Lil' Trunks SSJ
17. Lil' Goten
18. Lil' Goten SSJ
19. Gotenks
20. Gotenks SSJ
21. Gotenks SSJ3
22. Vegetto
23. Super Vegetto
24. Super Gogeta
25. Freeza form 1
26. Freeza form 2
27. Freeza form 3
28. Freeza form 4
29. Freeza 100%
30. Imperfect Cell
31. Semi-Perfect Cell
32. Perfect Cell
33. Super Perfect Cell
34. Fat Buu
35. Super Buu 1
36. Super Buu 2
37. Super Buu 3
38. Kid Buu
Now, the ones we can be pretty sure about:
39. Janenba
40. Chaotzu
41. Guldo
42. Recoome
43. Burter
44. Jeice
45. Ginyu
46. Oozaru
47. Android #16
48. Android #17
49. Android #18
50. Android #19
51. Android #20
52. Cooler
53. Brolly
Oops, forgot about Piccolo:
54. Piccolo
55. Super Namek Piccolo
If Chaotzu's there, you can bet these guys will be too:
56. Kuririn
57. Yamcha
58. Tenshinhan
Did they say ALL the Saiyans? If so, we should count:
59. Raditz
60. Nappa
That's it. No room for "every baddie in the series" like Zarbon or Dabura or more movie characters that developers seem to try to add. So by this logic it's safer to assume that those 60 characters are not counting transformations. However, it all remains to be seen.
It's party time, Ginyu style!
- ngnikolaos
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 318
- Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:17 pm
- Location: Greece
Hmmm... I don't know Fuujin. The producer said in his interview somethiing like "the previous Budokai had quite a few characters, but you can expect this one to have ... quite a few more."
Though I agree that having transformations as separate characters isn't out of the question, it was a phenomenom mostly apparent in 16-Bit and 32-Bit DBZ games. Granted, the same thing happened in Super Sonic Warriors, but I think the developers count transformations as "moves" instead of characters in all the PS2-and-above systems.
They transform in Sagas right? SSJ Goku is not a "separate" character there, right? I ask because I do not own the game.
Oh, and something else. Taking under consideration that the character models are ready from the previous game to be used in the next, I think that every Budokai game more or less had 14-16 new character models. And while Vegetto EX may constantly claim that Budokai Tenkaichi is a different game, the way I see it, Tenkaichi uses the previous character models and methods of attacks, and has changed the camera angle, and the size of the arenas (granted, a few changes in gameplay will be made, but mostly it will be the same game, just a different feel).
So, since B3 had 45 characters (trasformations not included) I think it's safe to assume that a year of development produced 14-17 more models, giving us 60 different characters.
....I think.
Though I agree that having transformations as separate characters isn't out of the question, it was a phenomenom mostly apparent in 16-Bit and 32-Bit DBZ games. Granted, the same thing happened in Super Sonic Warriors, but I think the developers count transformations as "moves" instead of characters in all the PS2-and-above systems.
They transform in Sagas right? SSJ Goku is not a "separate" character there, right? I ask because I do not own the game.
Oh, and something else. Taking under consideration that the character models are ready from the previous game to be used in the next, I think that every Budokai game more or less had 14-16 new character models. And while Vegetto EX may constantly claim that Budokai Tenkaichi is a different game, the way I see it, Tenkaichi uses the previous character models and methods of attacks, and has changed the camera angle, and the size of the arenas (granted, a few changes in gameplay will be made, but mostly it will be the same game, just a different feel).
So, since B3 had 45 characters (trasformations not included) I think it's safe to assume that a year of development produced 14-17 more models, giving us 60 different characters.
....I think.
"Destiny"... people claim by force what they desire, wreak havoc upon others in order to acquire it... and they call it "destiny".
- askani son
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 323
- Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:46 pm
- Location: That place with no paddle.
- lost in thought
- Advanced Regular
- Posts: 1018
- Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:01 pm
- Location: Cudahy, Wisconsin
- Contact:
- askani son
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 323
- Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:46 pm
- Location: That place with no paddle.
- Mugenmidget
- Regular
- Posts: 575
- Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:43 pm
While I agree with you on the "fun" aspect of it, the topic creator did indeed ask to "give your thoughts."askani son wrote:Jeez! It's just a bit of fun. Kinda like betting (without any consequence) and later finding out who was right.
And since "lost in thought" doesn't find any fun in this practically worthless speculation, he expressed it as asked.
But as for me, I sure hope they don't skimp out on forms, because I really want Imperfect Cell.
- ngnikolaos
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 318
- Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:17 pm
- Location: Greece
Indeed. It matters not what I say about the character list, but what Bandai will decide to do.
However, not all discussions and topics need to have "a point", Lost In Thought...
However, not all discussions and topics need to have "a point", Lost In Thought...
"Destiny"... people claim by force what they desire, wreak havoc upon others in order to acquire it... and they call it "destiny".
- VegettoEX
- Kanzenshuu Co-Owner & Administrator
- Posts: 17575
- Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:10 pm
- Location: New Jersey
- Contact:
You're either on-topic, or you're not. It's up to myself and Julian to dictate whether or not a topic has relevance or intellectual value. If I wanted to have shut this thread down, I would have. For now, I'll let it stand.
Back to the topic at hand, please.
Back to the topic at hand, please.
:: [| Mike "VegettoEX" LaBrie |] ::
:: [| Kanzenshuu - Co-Founder/Administrator, Podcast Host, News Manager (note: our "job" titles are arbitrary and meaningless) |] ::
:: [| Website: January 1998 |] :: [| Podcast: November 2005 |] :: [| Fusion: April 2012 |] :: [| Wiki: 20XX |] ::
:: [| Kanzenshuu - Co-Founder/Administrator, Podcast Host, News Manager (note: our "job" titles are arbitrary and meaningless) |] ::
:: [| Website: January 1998 |] :: [| Podcast: November 2005 |] :: [| Fusion: April 2012 |] :: [| Wiki: 20XX |] ::
- Fuujin
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 329
- Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:43 am
- Location: Fun Fun Poland Commie Land
I don't think you should worry, I've seen 3rd form Freeza on a screenshot and they promised us Oozaru form, it seems that they're pretty throughout when it comes to forms, the only real question is whether they count as separate characters or if you can transform in battle.Mugenmidget wrote:But as for me, I sure hope they don't skimp out on forms, because I really want Imperfect Cell.
It's party time, Ginyu style!
- Xyex
- I Live Here
- Posts: 4978
- Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:15 am
- Location: The 7th moon of nowhere, right-side of forever
- Contact:
Indeed. I don't have any doubts transformations will be included with each character instead of seperate. I'm looking forward to when they release the full (or a nearly full) list of characters. ^^
Avys ~ DA account ~ Fanfiction ~ Chat Quotes
<Kaboom> I'm just glad that he now sounds more like Invader Zim than Rita Repulsa
<Xyex> Original Freeza never sounded like a chick to me.
<Kaboom> Neither does Rita
<Xyex> Good point.
<Kaboom> I'm just glad that he now sounds more like Invader Zim than Rita Repulsa
<Xyex> Original Freeza never sounded like a chick to me.
<Kaboom> Neither does Rita
<Xyex> Good point.
1. Goku
2. Kid Gohan
3. Teen Gohan
4. Adult Gohan
5. Great Saiyaman
6. Goten
7. Vegeta
8. Future Trunks
9. Kid Trunks
10. Piccolo
11. Krillin
12. Yamcha
13. Tenshinhan
14. Chaozu
15. Master Roshi (I really wish)
16. Mr. Satan
17. Videl
18. Pan
19. Uub
20. Kaioshin
21. Raditz
22. Nappa
23. Bardock
24. Broly
25. Ginyu
26. Reccome
27. Jeice
28. Burter
29. Guldo
30. Zarbon
31. Dodoria
32. Frieza
33. Cooler
34. Lod Slug
35. Garlic Junior
36. Android 13
37. Andoird 14
38. Android 15
39. Android 16
40. Android 17
41. Android 18
42. Android 19
43. Dr. Gero
44. Cell
45. Turles
46. Dabura
47. Majin Buu
48. Super Buu
49. Kid Buu
50. Janemba
51. Bojack
52. Gotenks
53. Gogeta
54. Vegito
55. Kid Goku
56. Yajirobe
57. Chi-Chi
58. Bulma
59. Kibitoshin
60. Oozaro
2. Kid Gohan
3. Teen Gohan
4. Adult Gohan
5. Great Saiyaman
6. Goten
7. Vegeta
8. Future Trunks
9. Kid Trunks
10. Piccolo
11. Krillin
12. Yamcha
13. Tenshinhan
14. Chaozu
15. Master Roshi (I really wish)
16. Mr. Satan
17. Videl
18. Pan
19. Uub
20. Kaioshin
21. Raditz
22. Nappa
23. Bardock
24. Broly
25. Ginyu
26. Reccome
27. Jeice
28. Burter
29. Guldo
30. Zarbon
31. Dodoria
32. Frieza
33. Cooler
34. Lod Slug
35. Garlic Junior
36. Android 13
37. Andoird 14
38. Android 15
39. Android 16
40. Android 17
41. Android 18
42. Android 19
43. Dr. Gero
44. Cell
45. Turles
46. Dabura
47. Majin Buu
48. Super Buu
49. Kid Buu
50. Janemba
51. Bojack
52. Gotenks
53. Gogeta
54. Vegito
55. Kid Goku
56. Yajirobe
57. Chi-Chi
58. Bulma
59. Kibitoshin
60. Oozaro
- SpaceKappa
- Regular
- Posts: 604
- Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:03 pm
- Location: Boston, Massachusetts
- Contact:
Kinto'un. And jetpacks >.>
It would really be great to have someone like Muten Roshi in it. If people are imaginative enough to let Mr. Satan fly, they can figure out something for the other non-flying characters.
It would really be great to have someone like Muten Roshi in it. If people are imaginative enough to let Mr. Satan fly, they can figure out something for the other non-flying characters.
[i]"Rationality, that was it. No esoteric mumbo jumbo could fool that fellow. Lord, no! His two feet were planted solidly on God's good earth"[/i] - The Lamp of God, Ellery Queen