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Post by Godo » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:40 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: I really can't take that comment seriously because of all the bad grammar and horribly rushed lines in the Big Green dub.
When something that flawed beats Funimation, it says a lot about Funimation, right?
I prefer rushed lines to Funimation's choice of VA's. In fact, I believe that the VA's in the Big Green dub were more fitting to their characters than Funimation's in the same movie. And the Big Green dub isn't alone in being criticized for it's delivery of lines. Search YouTube, and you'll find a lot of criticism and parody regarding Funimation's lines (examples are the "Over 9000" and the "You Understaaaaand" by Vegeta).
And if you can't take my comment seriously, well, why are you taking it seriously by replying to it? Aren't you doing the opposite to what you should do in such a situation?
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: The difference is that the FUNimation dub has a massive fanbase, while the Big Green dub has virtually none at all.
Eeeh...and why do you think the reason for that is? Think of the most logical answer. And it doesn't have to do with the delivery of lines. I mean, the massive fanbase of Funimation swallowed a horrid dub nevertheless, didn't they?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:11 am

Godo wrote: When something that flawed beats Funimation, it says a lot about Funimation, right?
Was there some sort of "FUNimation vs. Big Green" competiton that I missed out on? Because the masses seem to prefer FUNimation's dub of that movie.
Godo wrote: I prefer rushed lines to Funimation's choice of VA's. In fact, I believe that the VA's in the Big Green dub were more fitting to their characters than Funimation's in the same movie.
Which FUNimation dub are you referring to? You see, FUNimation dubbed that movie twice. Once with the Ocean studios cast and again with their in-house cast. The dub with the Ocean studios cast has received a lot of praise and acclaim.
Godo wrote: And the Big Green dub isn't alone in being criticized for it's delivery of lines. Search YouTube, and you'll find a lot of criticism and parody regarding Funimation's lines (examples are the "Over 9000" and the "You Understaaaaand" by Vegeta).
I don't deny that the FUNimation dub gets criticized, but the Big Green dub gets mocked and criticized much more. Examples of criticized lines from the Big Green dub include: "let that child alone", "Gohan's crystal balls", "come magic cloud" and "it's Big Green". I really can't take a dub seriously that calls the son of the great demon king, "Big Green".

Godo wrote: Eeeh...and why do you think the reason for that is? Think of the most logical answer. And it doesn't have to do with the delivery of lines. I mean, the massive fanbase of Funimation swallowed a horrid dub nevertheless, didn't they?
Let me answer your question by asking one back, why do you there's a big fanbase for FUNimation's dub and no fanbase at all for the Big Green dub? Think about it.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:22 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Let me answer your question by asking one back, why do you there's a big fanbase for FUNimation's dub and no fanbase at all for the Big Green dub? Think about it.
Do you live in the area where that dub was produced and talk often with those types of fans? Do you know for a fact that there is virtually no fanbase for it, rabid or otherwise? Have you considered the relative populations of where each dub was distributed?

You can answer with more questions all you want, but you ask the wrong questions so you can frame your own viewpoint as "the answer". That's just poor arguing.

Back to Castor's site in terms of discussion, please :D.

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Post by Blue » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:22 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Let me answer your question by asking one back, why do you there's a big fanbase for FUNimation's dub and no fanbase at all for the Big Green dub? Think about it.
I was planning to ignore this but...

A big fan base doesn't really mean jack shit in terms of quality. Souja Boy has a huge fan base but that doesn't mean his work is of higher quality then an unknown Indie Band who spends loads of time and effort making their music instead of making simplistic beats and repeating the same 4 words ad nauseum

That being said I personally don't agree the Big Green dub is good...at all.

Edit: Whoops sorry EX I posted this at like the same time as you, no further discussion from me on this.

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Post by Castor Troy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:36 pm

Blue wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Let me answer your question by asking one back, why do you there's a big fanbase for FUNimation's dub and no fanbase at all for the Big Green dub? Think about it.
I was planning to ignore this but...

A big fan base doesn't really mean jack shit in terms of quality. Souja Boy has a huge fan base but that doesn't mean his work is of higher quality then an unknown Indie Band who spends loads of time and effort making their music instead of making simplistic beats and repeating the same 4 words ad nauseum

That being said I personally don't agree the Big Green dub is good...at all.

Edit: Whoops sorry EX I posted this at like the same time as you, no further discussion from me on this.

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Way to make Dragon Ball Evolution seem cool Castor, I mean I still don't ever want to watch it again but you made it look cool! :lol:
Don't worry, there's no reason to ever watch it again. :P

Also, I got a request. If anyone can provide Amazon.uk links for the Big Green movies, I may make a "Big Green Buyer's Guide".

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Post by The Tori-bot » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:41 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Also, I got a request. If anyone can provide Amazon.uk links for the Big Green movies, I may make a "Big Green Buyer's Guide".
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Post by El Diabeetus » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:48 pm

As Krillin was getting sucked into the Dead Zone, he sounded like Laura Bailey's Shin-chan. I like Garlic's voice better here. And Goku's voice doesn't sound as deep here as it did for "COME MAGIC CLOUD!"

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Post by Castor Troy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:57 pm

In movies 2 and 4, you'll hear Big Green Goku mixed in with Kelamis and Nozawa's screams. :x

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Post by Cipher » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:28 pm

VegettoEX wrote:This is the exact attitude that gets the complacent FUNimation dub fans in trouble when someone, lo and behold, doesn't think their product is the most amazing thing on the planet.
Seems like jumping down his throat a little, doesn't it?

The script is kind of/sort of decent in the Big Green dub (except for inaccuracies like "Big Green and Goku were once one" that make Funimation's worst lines seem unfettered), and Kami does sound kind of bad-ass when he says, "I think you'll find it's harder than you think to kill a god," but it's just objectively bad. Funimation's got some real shit from its first two seasons, but the acting here is so much objectively worse than either the Ocean or Funimation dub of the movie that praising it on anything other than the very basic concepts of voices or script is like walking into a room full of critics and loudly proclaiming your love for the Epic Movie series. It's just ... wrong.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:00 pm

Goddamn, now I want to watch a complete Big Green Dubbed movie. That shit is hilariously bad. But I'd probably have to watch it with a couple of friends, lol.
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Post by Castor Troy » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:09 pm

VegettoEX wrote:... isn't it awful that I haven't watched the videos yet? I'm terrible :(.
Yes, watch them!

Big Green Dub Panel in the future with Hujio, Corey, and I? Hell yes! :mrgreen:

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:25 pm

Cipher wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:This is the exact attitude that gets the complacent FUNimation dub fans in trouble when someone, lo and behold, doesn't think their product is the most amazing thing on the planet.
Seems like jumping down his throat a little, doesn't it?

The script is kind of/sort of decent in the Big Green dub (except for inaccuracies like "Big Green and Goku were once one" that make Funimation's worst lines seem unfettered), and Kami does sound kind of bad-ass when he says, "I think you'll find it's harder than you think to kill a god," but it's just objectively bad. Funimation's got some real shit from its first two seasons, but the acting here is so much objectively worse than either the Ocean or Funimation dub of the movie that praising it on anything other than the very basic concepts of voices or script is like walking into a room full of critics and loudly proclaiming your love for the Epic Movie series. It's just ... wrong.
Thankyou. People's hatred for FUNimation's dub is blinding them to the all-round awfulness of the Big Green dub.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:38 pm

Big Green Roshi sounds like fucking Season Three King Kai! :lol: Sancho sounds like Peewee Herman! :lol: The scripts are pretty bad too. The old Pioneer dub was much more accurate, and FUNi's redub was as well.

Also "Strip down, ready for a fight"..."Take off you're tunic, you're still too heavy like that!"... Getting heavy Abridged Zarbon vibes here! :lol:
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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:02 am

I've been watching these videos, I'm really enjoying them so far.

I actually like the Big Green dub. :lol:
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Post by Godo » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:52 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Thankyou. People's hatred for FUNimation's dub is blinding them to the all-round awfulness of the Big Green dub.
I don't hate Funimation's dub. But I still think that the Big Green dub is better.
Your comment is so typical for Funimation fans: If you don't like it, then you must hate it.

I really doubt that there are so many people that hate Funimation's dub to be honest. It's just that some people prefer a certain amount of quality, and it's all our rights to be critics without having to be called deaf/blind/stupid/haters ect.

I don't see the need for me to sugarcoat everything to fans who are sensitive about their dub, though. I'll still be straight forward. If you can't take some honest critisism, what are you doing in a forum to begin with?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:50 am

Godo wrote: I don't hate Funimation's dub. But I still think that the Big Green dub is better.
Your comment is so typical for Funimation fans: If you don't like it, then you must hate it.

I really doubt that there are so many people that hate Funimation's dub to be honest. It's just that some people prefer a certain amount of quality, and it's all our rights to be critics without having to be called deaf/blind/stupid/haters ect.

I don't see the need for me to sugarcoat everything to fans who are sensitive about their dub, though. I'll still be straight forward. If you can't take some honest critisism, what are you doing in a forum to begin with?
Let me get this straight with you, I'm not a dub fan. I enjoy parts of their dub, like Z Kai and the first three movies. I just don't see how there's any comparison between the FUNimation/Ocean dub of movie 1 and the Big Green dub of movie 1. While the Big Green dub of movie 1 is accurately translated, it is plagued with poor usage of grammar and rushed, awkward lines. Okay yes, the FUNimation/Ocean dub of movie 1 isn't perfect; it has it's flaws and inaccuracies. However, I would classify it as a "good dub", which is more than I can say for the Big Green dub of movie 1.

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Post by Blue » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:53 am

Um guys I wouldn't want Castor's thread to be locked and Mike gave us a warning already didn't he? I don't mean to be a mod or anything I just would hate for people not to be able to give comments on Castor's work.
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Post by Vegeta1056 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:28 pm

I love the Dragon Ball Evolution AMV.

I actually kinda want to watch it again. (the movie... and the amv to)

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:03 am

I don't mind the FUNi DBZ dub either. The only thing I have a problem with is the script. I've no problem with the music or voice.

The BG dub doesn't even seem that bad. The only problem is that some of the lines are spoken too fast. I liked a lot of the voices.


You want a bad dub? Try the Malaysian one ;)

You should make videos of that one next, Troy, haha.
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Post by Castor Troy » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:49 am

Big Momma wrote:I don't mind the FUNi DBZ dub either. The only thing I have a problem with is the script. I've no problem with the music or voice.

The BG dub doesn't even seem that bad. The only problem is that some of the lines are spoken too fast. I liked a lot of the voices.


You want a bad dub? Try the Malaysian one ;)

You should make videos of that one next, Troy, haha.
I was thinking of that if I can ever get my hands on it. Although I do have the Filipino english dub of movies 5-6 which I might do next.

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