Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by MetalMadness » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:51 pm

So, when do you guys think Rightstuf will ship the copies of part 2?

I remember people got their hands on part 1 a few weeks early

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Zephyr » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:45 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Dragon Ball Z had bad pacing. This is a fact. Anyone who has watched the series knows this. Whether the pacing is downright horrendous or affects greatly on one's enjoyment of the show, is obviously debatable. I personally think that it was bad at times, but overall it was okay.
Seriously. When watching Z, I normally just start doing something else when a scene drags on. I normally get so much more interested in the other thing that I'm doing that when the action finally starts back up, I have to rewind just to see what I missed. I never have to do this while watching Kai.

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Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Attitudefan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:43 am

My god, I don't know what sounds worse, their voices or the sound of scratching a chalkboard!

Okay here's my gripe, Ginyu and Jeice's (jheese or jeese or whatever) voices seem way to out of place. Jeice to me seems to be yelling when their is no need to yell. Ginyu just sounds bland. When I heard them it reminded me of bad 4kids voice acting. Ginyu's voice sounds to familliar to one of those horrible voices from the horrible 4kids!
I don't know how else to put it...
I miss Dale Kelly as Ginyu for sure!
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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:50 am

You like Dale Kelly. :shock: Ok, so he wasn't that bad as Ginyu (He sucked at The Narrator) but he was, in my opinion, one of the worst Ginyu's out there. He always sounded so nasally. (Spelling? Sorry I'm 13 :oops: ) He may have been better if he wasn't voicing him in the original season 3. I have absolutley no problem with the new Ginyu and I think he sounds nothing like a 4Kids voice actor, in fact being compared to one is an insult to the VA.

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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by SaiyamanMS » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:33 am

Hey, say what you want about their editing, but 4Kids have some pretty decent voice actors. (Including Dragon Ball's own Sean Schemmel.)

Have you by chance seen any of seasons 1-8 of the Pokémon dub? Or maybe some Yu-Gi-Oh! (Original series that is. Haven't seen much GX or any 5Ds) or TMNT '03? One Piece was downright horrendous, but judging 4Kids' voice actors by that is like judging Funimation's by DBZ season 3. :P

I mean, dude... 4Kids have Veronica Taylor, Dan Green and Rachael Lillis. That's like an awesplosion right there.

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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Budogenkai » Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:50 pm

SaiyamanMS wrote:Dan Green

Yeah 4kids does have a good talent pool, just the scripts they sometimes give them are dumb-downed.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by AgitoZ » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:15 pm

Attitudefan wrote:My god, I don't know what sounds worse, their voices or the sound of scratching a chalkboard!

Okay here's my gripe, Ginyu and Jeice's (jheese or jeese or whatever) voices seem way to out of place. Jeice to me seems to be yelling when their is no need to yell. Ginyu just sounds bland. When I heard them it reminded me of bad 4kids voice acting. Ginyu's voice sounds to familliar to one of those horrible voices from the horrible 4kids!
I don't know how else to put it...
I miss Dale Kelly as Ginyu for sure!
Wait you don't like Ginyu, his voice is quite good.

Also why aren't you complaining about Reacoom's voice if you dislike Jheese's voice. Since in my opinion they have the same problem. They are the same voice just not as exaggerated. This is a good and bad thing. Jheese may not be from down under anymore but he still has that really annoying voice. Reacoom does not sound as retarded but he still needs special ed classes.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:07 am

I'm not judging Ginyu's or Jheese's voice until I hear them on blu-ray, to me it seems they're trying to make the broadcast version bad on purpose while yet still the best dub for DB period.
Just wait until the dvd release before you make any judgement, especially since jheese probably won't sound like that at all on dvd..

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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:43 am

SaiyamanMS wrote:
Have you by chance seen any of seasons 1-8 of the Pokémon dub? Or maybe some Yu-Gi-Oh! (Original series that is. Haven't seen much GX or any 5Ds)
I've seen about almost every episode of dubbed GX, and I'd say the acting is superb aswell. It's easily the best thing about dubbed GX (and trust me, I have a lot of problems with 4kids' treatment of the series).

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Coola Yagami » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:39 am

Would they really go as far as re-dub their performance? There's a big difference than re-doing the lines with words like kill and bastard in em, but all their lines?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Big Momma » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:38 am

Coola Yagami wrote:Would they really go as far as re-dub their performance? There's a big difference than re-doing the lines with words like kill and bastard in em, but all their lines?

I'm sure most will, because the TV dub is rushed to keep with the schedule.
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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Rory » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:54 pm

Budogenkai wrote:Yeah 4kids does have a good talent pool, just the scripts they sometimes give them are dumb-downed.
No. Nearly all of 4kids' voice actors are fucking awful.
Ever watched the uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! episodes? Even with great scripts, it's almost painful to listen to the hammy acting their actors produce (looking at you, Eric Stuart, even if I do like your James). Veronica Taylor was good. I'd even accept Dan Green with his Mewtwo and to an extent his Yugi/Yami Yugi (everything else he's done is plain bad), but apart from that, they're bloody horrible.

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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:41 pm

Rory wrote:I'd even accept Dan Green with his Mewtwo and to an extent his Yugi/Yami Yugi (everything else he's done is plain bad)
Dan Green was great with his role as Wizer Freion in FUNimation's NYC produced dub of Slayers Revolution. I'd actually go so far as saying he was better than his Japanese voice, who was quite unmemorable.

A lot of their actors were better before they started working with 4Kids! Many of their current day actors were pretty good on dubs like Slayers, and still are, as FUNimation's outsourced dub of Revolution and Evolution-R show. Although, it seems that 4Kids! was really affecting Lisa Ortiz and Eric Stuart, because they sounded... 4Kids-ish in the first few episodes, where it sounded like Lisa Ortiz was trying to voice her Amy Rose instead of Lina Inverse, but they quickly got back on track within a few episodes. Veronica Taylor's Amelia actually sounded spot on since episode 1.

I'd say a lot of their bad acting in 4Kids! dubs is likely due to the horrendous directing that 4Kids! gives them, with horrible accents and annoying, shrill character voices.

Also, I'm surprised anyone would put Dale Kelly above R. Bruce Elliot. Not saying nobody's allowed to of course.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:41 pm

SO HEY. DRAGONBALL.

Found out that they're already done recording all of the Freeza stuff over there. They're pretty close behind Japan then, so hooray?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:43 pm

Kirbopher wrote:Found out that they're already done recording all of the Freeza stuff over there.
Now that is great news! I wonder when they will resume airing on NickToons.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:46 pm

Kirbopher wrote:SO HEY. DRAGONBALL.

Found out that they're already done recording all of the Freeza stuff over there. They're pretty close behind Japan then, so hooray?
Interesting, interesting. Maybe they're waiting for Novemeber (sweeps) for aring the final episodes of the arc as a big even to something...
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:46 pm

They're trying to stay as far ahead in recording as possible so that when the demand for more episodes from the broadcaster is issued, they'll have plenty to give. Also pretty sure the Raging Blast re-casts will be happening for certain characters, those who know of 'em can figure it out.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:48 pm

Kirbopher wrote:They're trying to stay as far ahead in recording as possible so that when the demand for more episodes from the broadcaster is issued, they'll have plenty to give. Also pretty sure the Raging Blast re-casts will be happening for certain characters, those who know of 'em can figure it out.
Interesting. I wonder if they'd try to sync up with Japan even further for something like a simulcasted airing. I wonder if Vale started recording yet? Heck, I wonder who is taking on King Cold...
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:49 pm

Kirbopher wrote:Also pretty sure the Raging Blast re-casts will be happening for certain characters, those who know of 'em can figure it out.
Well, Travis Willingham was already confirmed to be playing Cell in Kai's dub, so that's all I know of (haven't played Raging Blast).
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Re: Ginyu and Jeice and their voices (ENG)

Post by Attitudefan » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:43 pm

Rory wrote:
Budogenkai wrote:Yeah 4kids does have a good talent pool, just the scripts they sometimes give them are dumb-downed.
No. Nearly all of 4kids' voice actors are fucking awful.
Ever watched the uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! episodes? Even with great scripts, it's almost painful to listen to the hammy acting their actors produce (looking at you, Eric Stuart, even if I do like your James). Veronica Taylor was good. I'd even accept Dan Green with his Mewtwo and to an extent his Yugi/Yami Yugi (everything else he's done is plain bad), but apart from that, they're bloody horrible.
Thank you! 4kids is just horrible.
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You like Dale Kelly. Ok, so he wasn't that bad as Ginyu (He sucked at The Narrator) but he was, in my opinion, one of the worst Ginyu's out there
I think he was great! If he was givin' more time to play (like Sean Schemmel, whom was just horrible at first) Could have been awesome! Brice to me seemed flat and the new guy, is just horrible at acting, he just does not sound like Ginyu! Reacoom sounds like a dumb guy, I'm okay with it. Am I wrong to think that, maybe but I guess I'm used to it. Reacoom really should sound like a big, murdering giant (I think). Jeice is just awful in Kai! I don't know how else to describe it.
I really liked Scott McNiel's rendition of it the best. It really was the best, so was Burter's original english voice. :wink:
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