Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by DerekPadula » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:30 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I never heard of anything like this before. Did you hear about it in real life, or on the internet?
In real life.

Back in 2006 I was working at Electronic Arts as a QA tester on a team with a bunch of other people. We started to discuss our outside projects and I mentioned the book (which I started in 2003), and one guy told me the story of this girl he knew in Los Angeles. But he didn't remember her name or have her phone number. I've always wanted to track her down, and now I'm making a concentrated effort to do so.

And I'm totally open to hearing from anyone else with a similar situation. Thank you to everyone so far.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:43 pm

DerekPadula wrote: In real life.

Back in 2006 I was working at Electronic Arts as a QA tester on a team with a bunch of other people. We started to discuss our outside projects and I mentioned the book (which I started in 2003), and one guy told me the story of this girl he knew in Los Angeles. But he didn't remember her name or have her phone number. I've always wanted to track her down, and now I'm making a concentrated effort to do so.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Perfect » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:12 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I've always had a tiny social problem, nothing that's noticeable. But I can be pretty shy, and there's no way to tell someone, "Hi I'm a HUGE Dragon Ball fan." They'd probably say "Freak!" A lot of girls at school want me for the wrong reasons (sex), they got the looks, but no brains. I also tell them go away, and they keep following me >.<. I wish I could someday meet a girl who loves Dragon Ball as much as I do. I don't care if she's public shy either, more time for me to get to know her ^_^.
I could go out in public dressed as Goku and shout that to whoever. I guess I'm just straightforward.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:14 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I've always had a tiny social problem, nothing that's noticeable. But I can be pretty shy, and there's no way to tell someone, "Hi I'm a HUGE Dragon Ball fan." They'd probably say "Freak!" A lot of girls at school want me for the wrong reasons (sex), they got the looks, but no brains. I also tell them go away, and they keep following me >.<. I wish I could someday meet a girl who loves Dragon Ball as much as I do. I don't care if she's public shy either, more time for me to get to know her ^_^.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Twinbee_Mk_II » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:01 am

I admit I got the same situation myself. I suppose that's what makes the internet my favorite place. You can socialize with a large network of friends, and still be by yourself. Odd thing that.

DragonBall is just one subject my little 'tick' causes me to drone on and on about. I suppose in a way it's nice to be able to be so focused and interested in something, though when it switches to a new interest, it can be very frustraiting.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Turtle Marked Stone » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:57 pm

I think the real question here is does she like the dub or the sub!?

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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by chaosakita » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:13 pm

lol

The mom of an ex-friend with Asperger's syndrome always insisted that I had Asperger's syndrome, but I don't think so. I guess I have problems with social interactions (not in theory, just performing them, but also not enough for me to want to get professional help) and I happen to like Dragonball. I have a good memory, so I end up remembering a lot about fictional stuff I read about (but not anything that helps me with my grades, hmmm).

I bet a lot of people posting here (from what I know in general) have "self-diagnosed" Asperger's syndrome. Not as if a lot of psychiatrists are any better. But technically, Asperger's is simply a part of Autism now, and I think it's a very arbitrary way of differentiating people with the condition.

I don't really think anyone at school would really care that I like Dragonball, and probably a lot of them would admit to having fond memories of the show as a kid.

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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by caejones » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:13 pm

I've been "diagnosed" with AS when my parents / school people got tired of my messing up stuff I should be good at.
I've read and reread material on the subject since, and am increasingly convinced this "diagnosis" was BS. I mean, there was like a five minute interview, ending with the interviewer saying "he can get married and have a family some day!" (as though otherwise is complete and utter failure at life and a sign of terrible disease and tragedy.).
In the past month or so, I've decided I probably actually have ADD. (If it was AS, I'd at least get _something_ done, if in one area...).

What that has to do with Dragonball... Umm...
I dunno. I'm certainly the nerd of my family, but when I hear most of the people at college talking, I'm convinced I am nowhere near nerdy enough to deserve such a title. =P
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Son Geeko » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:40 pm

To answer the truth, yes, I have Asperger's Sydrome. I know, horrifying isn't it?

Not much to say other then that, although I only have 1 friend (which I don't care about, since I'm a loner anyways).
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by nathantheguitarist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:00 pm

I have (basically) no friends and like Dragonball. I thought I was just a nerd. :o
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Great Saiyaman I » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:06 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:I have (basically) no friends and like Dragonball. I thought I was just a nerd. :o
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by nathantheguitarist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:08 pm

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nathantheguitarist wrote:I have (basically) no friends and like Dragonball. I thought I was just a nerd. :o
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But you got my name wro.... oh what the hell, I has a friend! :lol:
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Coola Yagami » Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:15 am

Hmm I'm a huge DB fan as well, and I remember exact lines and scenes and such from the anime, manga and movies. I just don't go as far as remembering episode numbers, power levels and such.

The girl does sound kinda weird though, I mean, as HUGE a DB fan that I am, being with someone that will talk about nothing BUT DB will get old after a while. I'm just saying, cause like, half the forum here wants to marry this girl. LOL

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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:09 am

Coola Yagami wrote:Hmm I'm a huge DB fan as well, and I remember exact lines and scenes and such from the anime, manga and movies. I just don't go as far as remembering episode numbers, power levels and such.

The girl does sound kinda weird though, I mean, as HUGE a DB fan that I am, being with someone that will talk about nothing BUT DB will get old after a while. I'm just saying, cause like, half the forum here wants to marry this girl. LOL
I'm sure she doesn't only talk about Dragon Ball.... It is probably just one one of the things she is most comfortable talking about.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by MisterFlashdude » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:49 am

DerekPadula wrote:People with Asperger's Syndrome tend to have difficulty in social interactions, but are extremely intelligent or focused on a particular niche in life. This can be things like geology, trains, cars, or a particular film, video game or anime.
To clarify, Asperger's Syndrome is not at all known for higher than average intelligence. You are right that one of the diagnostic criteria does include a preoccupation with one or more areas of interest with abnormal intensity [read: obsession]. It's unfortunate that the internet tends to glorify this form of autism, simplifying it down to "someone who is shy and really interested in stuff. And really smart."

Otaku in particular are quick to diagnose themselves as such, ignoring the probability that, had they been born with AS or Autism, they'd have endured years of intense therapy to gain the capacity to understand facial expressions or perceive the meaning in someone's tone of voice. Instead, they want to be this. The misunderstood recluse who harbors a staggering intellect despite their odd exterior. That's... that's just not reality.

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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:03 am

Wow, of all the threads I never thought would appear...yes, I do indeed have Asperger's Syndrome. I could talk about it for a while, but I'll try to keep my post as Dragon Ball-related as possible in the interest of not weirding anybody out with my life story.

It is a very common occurrence among people with AS to be in a situation like this:
A) They struggle greatly with relatively basic social skills. How much they struggle varies, but they can be so socially inept that they will be mistaken for weirdos and/or jerks.
B) They have incredible aptitude and/or talent in other areas that many "normal" people don't have. How much talent they have varies, but they can be so talented that people will often be in awe of what they're able to do.

Anybody who has it is a living example of irony. Here's an example in my case. I hate socializing for others and don't have much skill for it, but I love performing for others and (without stroking my ego too much) am pretty good at it. I would much rather perform my stand-up act or a comedy sketch in front of Madison Square Garden then strike up a conversation with somebody I don't know (especially girls). And that's even after the many years of therapy that my awesome parents were perceptive enough to put me through. How's that for ironic?

Narrowing the focus a bit on to anime, it might interest you to know that the guy who created Pokemon in Japan has AS as well. He's described as something of a recluse, but that just goes to show you. People with AS, like I said, struggle with "normal" stuff, but excel with extraordinary stuff. A recluse who loved catching a ton of different bugs as a kid ended up creating one of the most financially successful animes of all time.

Now, let's narrow this even further down to Dragon Ball specifically. As far as this relates to Dragon Ball, I can tell you that one of the biggest sources of interest for me in Dragon Ball is its many English incarnations. I love acting and actually became a professional voice actor partially out of my love for--and fascination with--English dubs. Don't worry, I'm not one of those over-zealous anime fans who wants to voice act for the sake of voice acting, I am a professional actor and I was a professional actor before I even thought of voice acting. It wasn't until around 2006 that I began to remember watching DBZ on Toonami and then got to thinking, "Hey...wait a minute...people get paid to do that, don't they?"

Then I found out how much, and I STILL wanted to do it. :lol:

As such, I have difficulty starting up a conversation about "normal" stuff, but ask me a question about the production history of any of the English Dragon Ball dubs and I will know the answer. I'm a walking encyclopedia on the subject. You can name any role in any of the series, ask me who plays it, and my immediate response will be, "which dub?" Upon getting an answer to that, I can then name the actor or actress in no time flat (assuming I don't have to go through my long explanation of how there are a multitude of different English dubs). For all my social difficulties, I am lucky enough to have a few very good friends, one of whom is in to Dragon Ball almost as much as I am. When somebody asks me a Dragon Ball-related question, if my friend is near he will jokingly say, "Do you realize what you've done? We're gonna be here for nine hours. Remember, you asked for it." :lol: :lol:

So it doesn't surprise me that Dragon Ball breaks down barriers like that. This show really is incredible, it has a certain magic about it that a ton of modern anime are sorely lacking in. I don't keep up with the Japanese voice actors very much, but one of my favorite quotes of all time about Dragon Ball comes from Masako Nozawa. She once said, "You've got to believe in the magic of anime." I know that sounds corny, but it's totally true.
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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by ShiningMoon » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:29 am

I've a friend with Asperger's, and he's into a lot of anime, but I don't believe DB is one of them. (Or else my boyfriend, who is his best friend, would probably be much more into it himself!) His behavior patterns don't seem to be quite the same as this girl's from what I've seen and what you've described, but there are certainly some similarities. (And he definitely has AS.)

I in no way mean to marginalize or de-emphasize the differences in situation between myself and this girl, but I do have to say that I can kind of sympathize in that when someone brings up Dragonball I (a girl, if you haven't...figured that out yet...) have to try really hard not to act TOO excited and jump right into some crazy engaged discussion. I don't want to scare people away with my excitement (that somebody is talking about Dragonball!!) so I usually kind of play dumb and try to feel out how "into it" I can be without making people uncomfortable. I don't talk a lot (er, well, I type a lot, but actual conversation) but when it comes to topics like that, it's tough to keep quiet. (I also don't want people to know that DB is basically my only fandom. Like, rather than spreading around my time and effort to a few different shows/etc./etc. I devote an embarrassingly huge amount of time and thought to DB... It's weird because I've been slowly developing in the "I don't care what anyone thinks" direction, but my embarrassment about this bit has kind of stuck.) But, yeah -- I certainly wouldn't claim that I have any sort of disorder so it's clearly not quite the same thing. (Mine's obviously more about social conditioning. Er. I think. And probably also because one of the only friends I ever had who was into DB, right when I was getting into it, told me that he didn't want to be friends with me anymore because I was so much more into DB than he was. XD)

TheBlackPaladin, I think that's very interesting. (And, cool fact about the guy who created Pokemon!) That's kind of a different facet of DB to be knowledgeable about, and pretty nifty I think. So you mentioned your interest in voice acting, but have you been able to pursue it since then?
I think you're right about DB having some type of magic about it. (Nothing has ever sucked me in so much, and I'm not sure if it's reassuring or depressing that nothing probably ever will again...er, well, maybe math and physics. But even then it's pretty darn [embarrassingly] close. I took a two- or three-year "break" where I pretended like DB didn't matter to me anymore, but I think it means something that my moment of weakness, picking up the manga and reading the first few pages, dragged me back in deeper than I ever had been before.)

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Re: Asperger's Syndrome and Dragon Ball

Post by Bura » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:31 am

All these stories sound very familiar @_@.

I'm also very shy... and I never had many friends. I always kept it a secret that I liked DragonBall in high school because I didn't want to get picked on... So I usually sat alone during all classes and the breaks because I wasn't exactly what you'd call "the social type".

I always focussed all my time into DragonBall. As soon as I got home I'd start drawing fanart and keep a book where I'd make character description pages of the DragonBall characters... I'd sometimes heard boys talking about DB and I wanted to join the discussion SO badly but I didn't have the guts. I also hated it when they didn't know something about DragonBall or were stating wrong things, I got so annoyed when I overheard them because I felt like correcting them XD

Anyway, when I got internet I immediately build my first DragonBall site and during my years as a DB webmaster I got to know many DragonBall fans. I met my two best friends through DragonBall and anime, even though they live in the south of this country and I live way up north. We do visit each other from time to time and I attended conventions with them. But with the "normal people" from my everyday life I still find it difficult to talk because I don't share any interests with them... Even though some of my classmates were anime fans, I was afraid to go "all out" with my knowledge because I'd fear I'd be seen as freaky XD

Anyway, I'm also sure I'll find a boyfriend someday who'd accept such a 'unique' girl as myself.

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