Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[Innagadadavida]

Hey man. That's just, like, somebody's opinion, man. It's about as accurate as someone saying "This chocolate cake is terrible. The script sucks and the music sounds awful."

[fig404]

That sounds pretty fucking awesome, I didn't like Schemmels that much or Cooks at all, but when they switch it just makes it seem better.

Did you use the Part 2 DVD for all three versions or YouTube videos, because Mignogna's doesn't sound good enough quality on there.

Yeah, I used YouTube videos.

Are all three versions on the Part 2 DVD?

[Mewzard]

That sounds pretty fucking awesome, I didn't like Schemmels that much or Cooks at all, but when they switch it just makes it seem better.

Did you use the Part 2 DVD for all three versions or YouTube videos, because Mignogna's doesn't sound good enough quality on there.

Yeah, I used YouTube videos.

Are all three versions on the Part 2 DVD?

Both DVD versions and the TV version are on the second disc of Part 2 as Extras.

And for me, there's a pattern: Schemmel's Version>Mignogna's Version>Cook's Version. I worry this pattern may keep up. No offense to Justin Cook...he was just a bit rough for my tastes in song.

[jjgp1112]

Alright, now I'm watching a couple of more episodes after being busy for the last 2 days...Gohan isn't quite as annoying as before, but Bulma needs to be shot in the throat. Maybe it's the headphones. I mean, judging from the voice for that Kuina-looking-bitch from One Piece, that weird quality in her voice is natural and can't be controlled, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

[penguintruth]

but Bulma needs to be shot in the throat. Maybe it's the headphones. I mean, judging from the voice for that Kuina-looking-bitch from One Piece, that weird quality in her voice is natural and can't be controlled, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

That's funny, I had the same reaction to Tiffany Vollmer's Bulma. Rial's is much sharper, and a lot like the Japanese voice in some ways, and clearly is a better actress than Vollmer.

[Puto]

I personally think every version of Z-era Bulma needs to be shot in the throat. Including Hiromi Tsuru's Kai version.

[Ishtar318]

Not sure if this has been posted, but here's a DBZ Kai panel with Eric Vale (Future Trunks) and Chris Ayres (Freeza):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-stVXvGpMas

Chris Ayres even demonstrated the voices for Freeza's other forms.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

The factors of me being used to the voices, the actors that remain getting much better over a decade of work, the script being much more accurate, and most of the voices I disliked the most (or liked the least) being replaced really helped me overcome the miscasting. Sure, I'd like Vegeta to sound a bit more smooth and I'd like Kaio to sound more like the narrator, but all the plus sides to Kai's dub really softens the blow for me!

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. For the first time since I was a pre-teen happy with the Ocean dub because it was all I knew, I can actually enjoy watching Dragonball in English. That's a huge thing in my eyes. I'll never like Schemmel as Gokou. I'll always find criticism with Sabat's Vegeta. I want to tear my ears off in any scene Kaioh is in, and there are some minor characters who will give me the occasional facepalm moment. But for the vast majority of the experience, it's not just tolerable, it's actually enjoyable.

I'll never favor the dub and that won't be the version I reach for when I want to relive the series, but I've been sick for fucking 6 weeks now, and when I'm just feeling like shit lying in bed, I can turn on Nicktoons and watch some episodes of DBZ Kai (because they run it pretty much constantly) and relax, and just enjoy the series. I don't find myself nitpicking every little scene when I watch casually like this. I don't feel the need to write scathing forum posts bashing [x] actor or [x] dialogue change like I did back in the old days. I can legitimately watch Dragonball in English and still know 'hey, I'm watching Dragonball', and not something that tries to pass itself off as Dragonball.

Kai ain't perfect, and FUNi declined making some big decisions they perfectly easily could have avoided/rectified to truly give us the perfect experience, most likely due to fear of fan backlash. But whatever. As far as I'm concerned, the Japanese version is not going anywhere when I want it, but now in addition to some mind-numbing television to ignore my pain to, I can have confidence that new fans watching are getting into a great series, and don't have to worry about 90% of those things we used to hate on the dub about. That's a good feeling.

[Cootie]

I am really liking the new dub. I personally enjoy the pure arrogance that is Frieza. That little "OH!" he sarcastically added when Nail explained to him the importance of the Grand Elder was pretty great. Along with the sheer rage that was portrayed when he yelled "VERMIN!!". My pants were pooped.

[Innagadadavida]

I don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet, but it looks like in two weeks, we will be returning to two-episodes a week. The Nicktoon schedule goes through Oct. 27. There are two new episodes premiering on Oct. 20, and Oct. 21 respectively. I expect this to be the format all the way up through Namek exploding, then we'll probably have another break.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

Haven't seen anyone mention it yet (maybe I haven't looked in the right places though) but it seems that as most of us suspected, Ayers will indeed be deepening his voice for final form Freeza. One of the Nicktoons promos advertising the new episodes has him utter a line and the voice is significantly deeper and more overtly masculine. However, there are also a line or two from second-form Freeza that sound more or less the same as his current voice, so I'm not so sure about that...may just be hard to judge from a commercial. But I am looking forward to it.

Also, I noticed another one of those odd lines that...is probably not significant enough to notify FUNi over (like the Dende thing) but just don't feel 'correct'...when Gokou is getting in with the guide who takes him to Snake Road, he asks him if he ever met Kaioh before. He says yes (which was weird, I swear I remembered hearing that Enma was the only person who ever made it to Kaioh's planet? Or as a guide maybe he's special somehow?), and that he's surprisingly 'down to earth'. That's another one of those American turns of phrase that's common enough the average person wouldn't bat an eye, but...down to earth? When we're talking about a God who governs far more planets than just earth? It's just one of those silly lines that shouldn't be there, because this is a series in which earth is not the only setting, aaaand...yeah, expressions that use the word just sound kinda awkward. XD

[MetalMadness]

Man I really want to see this clip of Ayres Frieza forms, hopefully someone uploads it..

[Puto]

This dub is terrible the script sucks the music sounds awful, this isnt even remotely better than DBZ

Yes people. This is a real comment from this DBZKai vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=686GS9NM ... re=related
Sigh What is wrong with the Dragon Ball fandom.

I've seen people on YouTube saying that Season 3 (of the Z dub) has "way better acting" than Kai's dub. People on YouTube are generally meant to be ignored.

[spaceace998]

Okay, I'm just gonna go on the record to say the uncut line for Bulma in episode 26 was ingenious. When Krillin lands with the Dragon Ball in hand and scares the crap outta Bulma, she yells:

"What the hell is wrong with you?! Are you trying to kill me?!"

I lol'd a great deal, considering the delivery is excellent. I also lol'd at the uncut line for Bulma in episode 19 when she flips out on Krillin and Gohan for leaving the spaceship before she checked the atmosphere for oxygen.

"Do you two share have a freakin' brain cell?! For all you knew, the air could have been made up of cow flatulence!"

Note: I have paraphrased, but these are what I remember the lines as.

I don't know, maybe I'm just a sucker for pissed-off Rial.

[Super Sonic]

Has anyone else noticed that it seems quite a few guys are liking the dub versions of "Dragon Soul"? Recently found quite a few amvs to it from non-DB anime.

[penguintruth]

I remember seeing that acapella version of it, but other than that, haven't noticed.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Wow...I didn't realize it, but a couple important things are going to happen tonight:

-Piccolo's going to fuse with Nail. So we'll finally have a good dub of that scene and not this.
-Freeza will have a somewhat new voice after his first transformation, which also happens tonight.
-Krillin gets impaled tonight...I wonder how much Nicktoons will be allowed to get away with. There's no way they'll show the whole thing uncut obviously, but hopefully the scene will still be there and they'll just edit out the blood.
-The English dub of the chorus part of "Only a Chilling Elegy" is revealed tonight as well...assuming the impaling scene isn't edited too badly.

[Suupaa Gohan 2]

I'd personally expect (and wouldn't mind considering) the scene to play out the way the original edit went - impalement and then a quick chuck into the water, though hopefully lingering a bit more on the impalement before that. Then again, having never watched Kai besides the dub so far, I've no idea how this scene was handled in the original Japanese - Kai is already being edited compared to Z due to the earlier timeslot, and most of that scene was reeeeally drawn out filler, so I'm not sure. Is there a clip of the original version of the impalement scene in Kai, so I have something to compare it to tonight? I've been curious how the scene would fare as well, but again, it's hard to make predictions when I can only base them off of Z.

[DB_Fan1991]

I'd personally expect (and wouldn't mind considering) the scene to play out the way the original edit went - impalement and then a quick chuck into the water, though hopefully lingering a bit more on the impalement before that. Then again, having never watched Kai besides the dub so far, I've no idea how this scene was handled in the original Japanese - Kai is already being edited compared to Z due to the earlier timeslot, and most of that scene was reeeeally drawn out filler, so I'm not sure. Is there a clip of the original version of the impalement scene in Kai, so I have something to compare it to tonight? I've been curious how the scene would fare as well, but again, it's hard to make predictions when I can only base them off of Z.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lifR5ZbkFfY Here you go the Japanese version of the scene.

[Puto]

I'd personally expect (and wouldn't mind considering) the scene to play out the way the original edit went - impalement and then a quick chuck into the water, though hopefully lingering a bit more on the impalement before that. Then again, having never watched Kai besides the dub so far, I've no idea how this scene was handled in the original Japanese - Kai is already being edited compared to Z due to the earlier timeslot, and most of that scene was reeeeally drawn out filler, so I'm not sure. Is there a clip of the original version of the impalement scene in Kai, so I have something to compare it to tonight? I've been curious how the scene would fare as well, but again, it's hard to make predictions when I can only base them off of Z.

Problem is, the impalement scene has an insert song. It's kind of a big thing, so I doubt they'll want to edit out half the song.