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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:01 am

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Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:unless any of the VA's have classical opera in their backgrounds that I'm not aware of.
Sabat does.
That's kind of cool; and it makes me want to hear what his opera singing voice sounds like. O_O
He said the reason he didn't pursue it despite having a real big interest in it was because opera singers have to do a lot to take care of their voice. He said they're not allowed to talk days before they perform and they're not allowed to scream at any point. He commented that it's funny he ended up leading pretty much the exact opposite kind of lifestyle.
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Post by SuperSaiyanBatman » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:55 am

@TheBlackPaladin Well, thanks for answering me! I'm scared when I'm new in a place
TheBlackPaladin wrote: He said the reason he didn't pursue it despite having a real big interest in it was because opera singers have to do a lot to take care of their voice. He said they're not allowed to talk days before they perform and they're not allowed to scream at any point. He commented that it's funny he ended up leading pretty much the exact opposite kind of lifestyle.
I laughed way too hard in the middle of the night. Thank you very much :lol:

Back on topic;

Anyone have a favorite Ayres Freeza moment yet? I particularly like his angry Freeza in Episode 36 and All of his 2nd Form Freeza performance so far.

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:19 am

RazorX wrote:Don Brown voiced Kaio in the Ocean dub. I'm a bit surprised you didn't know that. I've seen other people make the same mistake but they didn't seem to be as well informed of the various DBZ dubs as you.
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I think that's a copy-and-paste error on my part. Correcting...
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I know I always thought it was Dave Ward because that's who Chris Psaros always claimed it was. Maybe that's how this spread...
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:49 pm

If we know for sure that Don Brown voiced Mr. Satan in their dub than I'm pretty sure he also voiced Kaiô as the two sound the same when shouting.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by obiwan23s » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:37 pm

The voice for Freeza's third form in today's episode was pretty good. Pitched down even further from the 2nd form voice and no creepy lizard voice filter like the TV series dubbed. I like what they're doing here and just tweaking Ayers's voice a little bit instead of straight up altering it with their equipment. The voice is creepy and menacing enough on its own and just changing the pitch for the transformations has been great.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:21 pm

obiwan23s wrote:The voice for Freeza's third form in today's episode was pretty good. Pitched down even further from the 2nd form voice and no creepy lizard voice filter like the TV series dubbed. I like what they're doing here and just tweaking Ayers's voice a little bit instead of straight up altering it with their equipment. The voice is creepy and menacing enough on its own and just changing the pitch for the transformations has been great.
I don't know if I'm misunderstanding your wording, but the second form voice wasn't digitally pitched down at all. The second form voice was entirely Ayres deepening his own voice. The third form voice is the only digitally altered one.
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Post by SuperSaiyanBatman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:25 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
obiwan23s wrote:The voice for Freeza's third form in today's episode was pretty good. Pitched down even further from the 2nd form voice and no creepy lizard voice filter like the TV series dubbed. I like what they're doing here and just tweaking Ayers's voice a little bit instead of straight up altering it with their equipment. The voice is creepy and menacing enough on its own and just changing the pitch for the transformations has been great.
I don't know if I'm misunderstanding your wording, but the second form voice wasn't digitally pitched down at all. The second form voice was entirely Ayres deepening his own voice. The third form voice is the only digitally altered one.
You misunderstood his wording. He meant pitched down in general, not specifically referring to digital alteration. Ayres pitches his voice down while playing 2nd form Freeza, while the 3rd form seems like a digitally pitched down version of that.
It's confusing, but it just depends on what's pitching it down. Your own vocal chords or a digital device.

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Post by bkev » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:05 pm

That's nice. One thing I liked about the original singles over the season sets/(will probably be the same on the Dragonbox) was that Justin Cook's Buu voice was slightly pitched down to the point where it still sounded natural - and it sounds much better than it does on the season sets unaltered.

It appears a similar technique was used on Ayres' Freeza.
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Post by MR.Mark » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:49 pm

The pitched down 3rd form works well enough, but I still think a variation on the lines Ayres first spoke in the Freeza role would've been perfect. Not to mention more in line with the Japanese version, but it's not a big deal.

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Post by penguintruth » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:03 pm

I thought Ayres slipped up too many times in second form and used his first form voice. I really like his third form voice and hope he doesn't end up using his second form voice by mistake.
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Post by El Diabeetus » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:17 pm

penguintruth wrote:I thought Ayres slipped up too many times in second form and used his first form voice. I really like his third form voice and hope he doesn't end up using his second form voice by mistake.
Agreed! It's really evil and deep sounding. That's the ideal Freeza voice. Gonna say it again, Ayres is perfect for Freeza.

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:29 pm

penguintruth wrote:I thought Ayres slipped up too many times in second form and used his first form voice. I really like his third form voice and hope he doesn't end up using his second form voice by mistake.
Well, seeing as his third form voice is digitally created, I don't think he'll use his second form voice because they'll digitally correct it anyway if he does. From what Ayers said, he can go that low naturally, it's just a big stretch for him and limits his acting ability. Which I can understand. Try speaking in the lowest possible voice you can possibly muster...not a lot of variety to the way you can speak, is there? Not a lot of emotional variety, anyway.
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Post by Zionist » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:16 pm

Voice was a big improvement after second transformation.....Now we all wait on edge to see how they did his final form....I think it'll be closer to his base form's voice...but a bit softer (Frieza? Softer? lol)
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by MR.Mark » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:29 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:
Well, seeing as his third form voice is digitally created, I don't think he'll use his second form voice because they'll digitally correct it anyway if he does. From what Ayers said, he can go that low naturally, it's just a big stretch for him and limits his acting ability. Which I can understand. Try speaking in the lowest possible voice you can possibly muster...not a lot of variety to the way you can speak, is there? Not a lot of emotional variety, anyway.
Indeed, when it's all said and done, I'm probably gonna like his 3rd form voice the least. To me it's the least unique of the lot so far.

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by obiwan23s » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:18 am

Zionist wrote:Voice was a big improvement after second transformation.....Now we all wait on edge to see how they did his final form....I think it'll be closer to his base form's voice...but a bit softer (Freeza? Softer? lol)
Ayers already said the final form voice is going to be the same as the first form voice.

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Re: New Freeza Talkback

Post by penguintruth » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:25 am

obiwan23s wrote:
Zionist wrote:Voice was a big improvement after second transformation.....Now we all wait on edge to see how they did his final form....I think it'll be closer to his base form's voice...but a bit softer (Freeza? Softer? lol)
Ayers already said the final form voice is going to be the same as the first form voice.
Well, that makes a kind of sense, I guess, since Freeza slims down again.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

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obiwan23s wrote:
Zionist wrote:Voice was a big improvement after second transformation.....Now we all wait on edge to see how they did his final form....I think it'll be closer to his base form's voice...but a bit softer (Freeza? Softer? lol)
Ayers already said the final form voice is going to be the same as the first form voice.
Didn't he say it's going to go higher again, but not quite as high as his first form voice? I vaguely recall reading/hearing that somewhere.
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Re: New Freeza Talkback

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TheBlackPaladin wrote:
obiwan23s wrote:
Zionist wrote:Voice was a big improvement after second transformation.....Now we all wait on edge to see how they did his final form....I think it'll be closer to his base form's voice...but a bit softer (Freeza? Softer? lol)
Ayers already said the final form voice is going to be the same as the first form voice.
Didn't he say it's going to go higher again, but not quite as high as his first form voice? I vaguely recall reading/hearing that somewhere.
No, Ayers said that the final form and Mecha Freeza voices are the high pitched base form voice.

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