Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion
Let's knock off the calling someone's actions "stupidity", I'm with you 100% up until that one part, but that's just unacceptable. Even if you think it with all your might deep down in your heart, you don't need to be a wanker about it. You've got a knack for writing and detailed explanations, so don't throw it all away with childish name-calling.
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion
I really could care less how "accurate" the dialogue was. What I found heartbreaking about Funi's original scene was it was actually believable. It was well built up and voiced magnificently imo. Goku playing the part of "Shut up already you're killing yourself" here in the Kai Re dub was just WAAAAAAY OOC. That was a killer.Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:*scold* *spam* *scold*
In the original I like how Vegeta described how he was taken from his father when he was just a boy and so on so forth. In the Kai Dub, it just seemed.....practiced and like he was acting. Idk, maybe the music of the original also added to the scene, (I am a supporter of Faulconer Music in DBZ). It's my opinion, I am allowed to have one, and you don't need to be harsh about it.
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So you prefer the dub completely misrepresent the entire scenario being depicted and a really cheesy sob story about a corrupted young boy to a bad man with so much pride that even while dying he cries just asking for his people to be avenged? Acted by people who at that point were bad impressions of the previous voices? Huh.
I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.
I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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That's exactly what I'm saying.penguintruth wrote:So you prefer the dub completely misrepresent the entire scenario being depicted and a really cheesy sob story about a corrupted young boy to a bad man with so much pride that even while dying he cries just asking for his people to be avenged? Acted by people who at that point were bad impressions of the previous voices? Huh.
I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.
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I don't wish to get involved in an argument, but this is getting a bit heated. Nostaglia can be a dangerously blinding thing. Once again, this is why I'm glad that I had to go through so many dubs, that I don't have any particular favourite to be blindly loyal too.
That said, it's okay to like something for being slightly less accurate, but there's also no reason for being overly stubborn on either side of the argument. We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.
That said, I do prefer the dialogue from Kai to Z, because I personally feel that the dialogue was forced, as well as the acting at that point in their careers. But then I'm someone who likes character, and I prefer dialogue that stays true to the original character, or at least how I interpret it.
That said, it's okay to like something for being slightly less accurate, but there's also no reason for being overly stubborn on either side of the argument. We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.
That said, I do prefer the dialogue from Kai to Z, because I personally feel that the dialogue was forced, as well as the acting at that point in their careers. But then I'm someone who likes character, and I prefer dialogue that stays true to the original character, or at least how I interpret it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion
What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.Ashy-kun wrote:We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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Haven't seen the scene, but you can't claim that you "could care less how accurate the dialog was," and then call someone's actions "OOC." It's borderline illegal to make such a statement, I think.Zionist wrote:I really could care less how "accurate" the dialogue was. What I found heartbreaking about Funi's original scene was it was actually believable. It was well built up and voiced magnificently imo. Goku playing the part of "Shut up already you're killing yourself" here in the Kai Re dub was just WAAAAAAY OOC. That was a killer.
Also, "could care less," great job with that.
EDIT: Actually, I guess you could say "I could care less about accuracy" and then call someone's actions out of character!
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Re: Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion
Sometimes I see arguments like this and wonder if its just someone doing a ingeniously convincing parody of a generic dubbie.
Or just a troll.
Or just a troll.
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No one here was out of line in response to Zionist. There's talk, and then there's backing up your talk. Perfect example would be your post: You imply there is a problem here with "what people on other boards say about this place" but don't elaborate. When "those guys" took humbrage with Zionist's attitude, "they" gave actual reasons.jjgp1112 wrote:Sometimes you guys just validate what people on other boards say about this place.
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Well, someone talking about a character being OOC then defending FUNimation's original dub of that scene does seem a little... hypocritical. I mean, regardless of whether he liked the original scene's acting, music, or pacing more, the script was garbage compared to what it actually should have been. Goku here actually DID sound in character, taking into consideration his past with Vegeta.
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I go back and forth on that one. Kikuchi's was very loud and overpowering, whereas Yamamoto's was more soft and thoughtful. At least during the burial scene. For when Goku gets up immediately afterward and vows to defeat Freeza, Kikuchi's was much better (in my opinion). Kikuchi's Genki Dama theme is my favorite of all his compositions.penguintruth wrote:I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.
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So are you saying we shouldn't respect his opinion, because it's different to ours?penguintruth wrote:What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.Ashy-kun wrote:We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.
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Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:So are you saying we shouldn't respect his opinion, because it's different to ours?penguintruth wrote:What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.Ashy-kun wrote:We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.penguintruth wrote:
Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.
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Exactly. Even if we don't agree with him-- and ho, ho, ho, I do -not- agree with him-- we should still be respectful.Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.penguintruth wrote:
Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.
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But DBZ to him isn't DBZ. And there's no reason to respect that.Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.penguintruth wrote:
Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.
I can accept that people have different opinions than mine. But I don't have to respect them.
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Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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No. It's a different version of DBZ. A crappy version, IMO. But a different version, nonetheless.penguintruth wrote: But DBZ to him isn't DBZ. And there's no reason to respect that.
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In this instance, penguintruth is right.