Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[VegettoEX]

Let's knock off the calling someone's actions "stupidity", I'm with you 100% up until that one part, but that's just unacceptable. Even if you think it with all your might deep down in your heart, you don't need to be a wanker about it. You've got a knack for writing and detailed explanations, so don't throw it all away with childish name-calling.

[Zionist]

*scold* *spam* *scold*

I really could care less how "accurate" the dialogue was. What I found heartbreaking about Funi's original scene was it was actually believable. It was well built up and voiced magnificently imo. Goku playing the part of "Shut up already you're killing yourself" here in the Kai Re dub was just WAAAAAAY OOC. That was a killer.

In the original I like how Vegeta described how he was taken from his father when he was just a boy and so on so forth. In the Kai Dub, it just seemed.....practiced and like he was acting. Idk, maybe the music of the original also added to the scene, (I am a supporter of Faulconer Music in DBZ). It's my opinion, I am allowed to have one, and you don't need to be harsh about it.

[penguintruth]

So you prefer the dub completely misrepresent the entire scenario being depicted and a really cheesy sob story about a corrupted young boy to a bad man with so much pride that even while dying he cries just asking for his people to be avenged? Acted by people who at that point were bad impressions of the previous voices? Huh.

I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.

[Zionist]

So you prefer the dub completely misrepresent the entire scenario being depicted and a really cheesy sob story about a corrupted young boy to a bad man with so much pride that even while dying he cries just asking for his people to be avenged? Acted by people who at that point were bad impressions of the previous voices? Huh.

I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[Ashy-kun]

I don't wish to get involved in an argument, but this is getting a bit heated. Nostaglia can be a dangerously blinding thing. Once again, this is why I'm glad that I had to go through so many dubs, that I don't have any particular favourite to be blindly loyal too.

That said, it's okay to like something for being slightly less accurate, but there's also no reason for being overly stubborn on either side of the argument. We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.

That said, I do prefer the dialogue from Kai to Z, because I personally feel that the dialogue was forced, as well as the acting at that point in their careers. But then I'm someone who likes character, and I prefer dialogue that stays true to the original character, or at least how I interpret it.

[penguintruth]

We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.

What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.

[B]

I really could care less how "accurate" the dialogue was. What I found heartbreaking about Funi's original scene was it was actually believable. It was well built up and voiced magnificently imo. Goku playing the part of "Shut up already you're killing yourself" here in the Kai Re dub was just WAAAAAAY OOC. That was a killer.

Haven't seen the scene, but you can't claim that you "could care less how accurate the dialog was," and then call someone's actions "OOC." It's borderline illegal to make such a statement, I think.

Also, "could care less," great job with that.

EDIT: Actually, I guess you could say "I could care less about accuracy" and then call someone's actions out of character!

[batistabus]

Sometimes I see arguments like this and wonder if its just someone doing a ingeniously convincing parody of a generic dubbie.

Or just a troll.

[jjgp1112]

Sometimes you guys just validate what people on other boards say about this place.

[B]

Sometimes you guys just validate what people on other boards say about this place.

No one here was out of line in response to Zionist. There's talk, and then there's backing up your talk. Perfect example would be your post: You imply there is a problem here with "what people on other boards say about this place" but don't elaborate. When "those guys" took humbrage with Zionist's attitude, "they" gave actual reasons.

[KaiserNeko]

Well, someone talking about a character being OOC then defending FUNimation's original dub of that scene does seem a little... hypocritical. I mean, regardless of whether he liked the original scene's acting, music, or pacing more, the script was garbage compared to what it actually should have been. Goku here actually DID sound in character, taking into consideration his past with Vegeta.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I'll admit that Kai's music didn't really help the scene. Much preferred the Kikuchi score in this part.

I go back and forth on that one. Kikuchi's was very loud and overpowering, whereas Yamamoto's was more soft and thoughtful. At least during the burial scene. For when Goku gets up immediately afterward and vows to defeat Freeza, Kikuchi's was much better (in my opinion). Kikuchi's Genki Dama theme is my favorite of all his compositions.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.

What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.

So are you saying we shouldn't respect his opinion, because it's different to ours?

[penguintruth]

We should respect other people's enjoyment of a version they watch, irrespective of which one.

What? No we shouldn't. Not if that version paints scenes differently than they're intended to come off.

So are you saying we shouldn't respect his opinion, because it's different to ours?

Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.

But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.

[KaiserNeko]

Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.

But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.

Exactly. Even if we don't agree with him-- and ho, ho, ho, I do -not- agree with him-- we should still be respectful.

[penguintruth]

Because the version of the show he prefers might as well not be DBZ, if they're just making things up for it.

But still, that's DBZ to him. And we should respect that.

But DBZ to him isn't DBZ. And there's no reason to respect that.

I can accept that people have different opinions than mine. But I don't have to respect them.

[Innagadadavida]

Penguintruth needs a good teabagging.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

But DBZ to him isn't DBZ. And there's no reason to respect that.

No. It's a different version of DBZ. A crappy version, IMO. But a different version, nonetheless.

[Rocketman]

In this instance, penguintruth is right.