Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:01 pm

I think most or if any Gold Saint should able to take down Goku since they are FTL (They can fight across the whole galaxy in seconds), and Saga's strongest attack is stated to be equal of a galaxy destroying attack. Death Mask should able soul suck Goku and send his soul to hell afterwards.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Perfect » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:04 pm

Broly not only destroyed galaxies in his sleep, but his power in maximum.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by caejones » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:32 am

Something I've heard from someone who was into the Gamefaqs power comparison scene (with nill in the way of reasoning, mind) was that it was "well accepted" that Dark Schneider was the most ridiculously powerful anime character ever, then the Saint Seiya cast, then Goku.

To which I respond "I'd be interested to see this ranking list." To which I am told "Urm, go ask somebody at gamefaqs... I'm sure they'll have it..."
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by NeoKING » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:25 am

The most powerful Shonen character is Giorno Giovanna. Without a doubt, he can defeat any DB fighter, or any fighter for that matter. And I am NOT exaggerating.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:33 pm

Saint Seiya is so much stronger then Dragon Ball since they Gods that make SSj4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron cry to their mom's like Hades or Apollo for example. Dark Schneider is a very powerful character in his Majin Form along with the Dragon Knight Lucifer mecha as well. I put him around Gold Saint level, I'm not sure if he would powerful enough to fight against the unsteeled Titans.

But I do agree that Majin Dark Schneider is stronger then any Dragon Ball character even SSj4 Gogeta. Bastard!! even has powerful characters as well like Uriel, Seraphines, and Satan (Who destroy the milky way galaxy by just flying past it).
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:52 am

NeoKING wrote:The most powerful Shonen character is Giorno Giovanna.
No way. Parco Folgore could kick his ass. :P

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:00 pm

NeoKING wrote:The most powerful Shonen character is Giorno Giovanna. Without a doubt, he can defeat any DB fighter, or any fighter for that matter. And I am NOT exaggerating.
Never heard of him to be honest.
If we really wanted to make proper match ups, Dragonball should have had more feats to go by. But I can live with it not being so feat oriented, as opposed to Superman comics, where the narrator almost always states, when Supes is flying at the speed of light or faster than it. Or when characters go out of their way to mention they are 1000 times faster/stronger than that guy and so on. Feel free to correct me, if such instances only appear in pre crisis issues.

Anyways it's part of my fandom to believe that most of the characters(Saiyans and Piccolo at least) are without a doubt faster than light both in combat speed and travel speed by the Buu arc. There is no way that their combat speed didn't go up by more than twice after all that training in previous arcs after already surpassing Popo, who is faster than lightning(up to ½ the speed of light).
That's just my view on DB characters' speed anyways.
Arale was stronger than Goku, when they first met, and Goku was never stated to surpass her, so I guess a fight between them could be interesting? Arale is a part of Dragonball of course, so maybe Arale vs. one of those other superpowered Saint Seiya characters?

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by StarRot » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:11 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Never heard of him to be honest.
He's from a manga called Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure.
What makes him so powerful is his "Stand" Gold Experience Requiem.
Wikipedia wrote:Gold Experience Requiem - A new Stand that is created by piercing Gold Experience's body with the Stand Arrow. Gold Experience Requiem's ability is to turn anything, including his opponent's attack and willpower, back to the state of "zero". Hence, it is near invincible, as all "supposed" actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). If the opponent is killed by the Stand's attack, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point "zero". It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of Requiem's powers. Requiem also appears to have a consciousness of its own that is unknown to Giorno. This makes Gold Experience Requiem the most powerful defensive stand in the series as any action to harm Giorno would have the effect removed.
He could beat anyone, really.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:27 pm

StarRot wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Never heard of him to be honest.
He's from a manga called Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure.
What makes him so powerful is his "Stand" Gold Experience Requiem.
Wikipedia wrote:Gold Experience Requiem - A new Stand that is created by piercing Gold Experience's body with the Stand Arrow. Gold Experience Requiem's ability is to turn anything, including his opponent's attack and willpower, back to the state of "zero". Hence, it is near invincible, as all "supposed" actions created by an opponent would have been reset (back to point zero). If the opponent is killed by the Stand's attack, then they will also continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point "zero". It is mentioned by Giorno himself that he is unsure of the exact workings and limits of Requiem's powers. Requiem also appears to have a consciousness of its own that is unknown to Giorno. This makes Gold Experience Requiem the most powerful defensive stand in the series as any action to harm Giorno would have the effect removed.
He could beat anyone, really.
I can see that now :shock:

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Wobbuffet » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:38 pm

NeoKING wrote:So, I've been getting into Saint Seiya(I'm at the part where SAORI WAS SHOT WITH AN EVIL ARROW AND THE HEROES MUST PLAY AT HOROSCOPES TO STOP THE POPE!) and I was wondering if Goku could beat any of the Gold Saints. I know he can dominate Seiya but the GS seem so broken, especially the Virgo(who is said REPEATEDLY to be "second to God") and the Leo("Seiya! Your Meteor of Pegasis can reach speeds of one-hundred blows per second, but being the Gold Saint that I am, ALL of my blows travel at light velocity, so I can fire one-hundred MILLION blows per second!!")
If you are at that saga, don't read the previous page of this thread, it does have a major spoiler.

I've read something about Bastard!! characters. They seem pretty strong for me.

I'm not that used to the JoJo universe, so can anyone tell me how strong is Enrico Pucci? From what I've read, he could destroy anything with gravitational force.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:03 pm

It been while since I read JJBA, but from what I have seen from Parts 4-5 that GER is rather powerful. I don't think it will be powerful enough to take on something multiversal, but I do know that some stands from JJBA might take down all of Dragon Ball even GT.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:11 am

Everyone in DBGT vs Galactus :shock:
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Nippolyte » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:44 pm

Videl vs. Deathstroke
Powerpuff Girls vs. Cyborg Tao
Batman vs. Farmer with shotgun
Mewtwo vs. King Piccolo
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Savage68 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:00 pm

Slade...? You mean Deathstroke.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Nippolyte » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:02 pm

My mistake, I edited it.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:17 pm

Since I don't know Deathstroke, I can't give an opinion.
Nippolyte wrote:Powerpuff Girls vs. Cyborg Tao
Powerpuff Girls - I remember an episode where they flew so fast they travelled into the future, so if they can use that speed in battle, I believe they can beat Tao easily, Cyborg or not. And their strength, as I remember was pretty high up there, so Tao wouldn't stand a chance.
Score=90/10 in favour of the girls.
Nippolyte wrote:Batman vs. Farmer with shotgun
Depends, if the farmer is quick enough to load his gun and fire, then he might hit(his aim is pretty good, if Raditz didn't grab the bullet he would've been hit).
But Batman should be able to outsmart him before that even happens.
Score=80/20 in favour of Batman.
Nippolyte wrote:Mewtwo vs. King Piccolo
Mewtwo has some great telekinetic powers, the question is, if Piccolo is strong enough to resist them, since we see with Nappa, that a great power difference is enough to negate such abilities.
Since Mewtwo is better at flying, he has the edge, when it comes to aerial combat. If Piccolo manages to generate a "Demon hand wawe"(I don't know the official name, just think blast that destroyed the city), it would be interesting to see if Mewtwo is able to repel it back at Piccolo.
If anything the battle should be close to equal with Mewtwo having the edge.
Score=70/30 in favour of Mewtwo.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:28 pm

Mewtwo can create storms across the Planet, and I remember he move the Planet for a small moment. I think Nappa or Radditz would be a good match up for Mewtwo.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Nippolyte » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:35 pm

Yeah, I decided not to put Mewtwo up against someone like Frieza or Cell because I think that would be overkill.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:46 pm

Ginyu Force

Vs.


Sailor Moon

What do you guys think of this matchup?
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Post by Adamant » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:57 pm

Sailor Moon is another one of those infinitely powerful characters who could beat all the Dragonball characters at the same time without too much effort.
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