Dragon Ball: The Live Action Series Thoughts?

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Re: Dragon Ball: The Live Action Series Thoughts?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:33 pm

The thing with a Dragon Ball live action movie is finding someone who would love to direct it. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Godzilla, and Dracula are all icons and loved across worldwide since the chances are you will find a director or someone who is a big fan that would love to work on a movie based on those characters.

Sadly Dragon Ball is not one of them, and most movie directors will view Dragon Ball as a joke.
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Post by Juan Fra » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:11 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Sadly Dragon Ball is not one of them, and most movie directors will view Dragon Ball as a joke.
That's exactly the reason I think no matter what, the concept of Dragon Ball will be screwed when translated to live-action.

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Post by dragondyle » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:13 pm

As been proven before with Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins, and Dragon Ball: Evolution, Dragon Ball can't be done in live action.
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Post by the_abberration » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:28 pm

dragondyle wrote:As been proven before with Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins, and Dragon Ball: Evolution, Dragon Ball can't be done in live action.
Then again if it were in the right hands, I think we could get something passable. For example, the Street Fighter: Legacy fan made trailer on Youtube. It's low budget, but it's decent. And I think that Capcom is showing interest in a live action production again. If someone could do the same with DB, maybe they could take the hint. That it has to be approached from someone dedicated to the source material to make a live action show work.
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Re: Dragon Ball: The Live Action Series Thoughts?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:37 pm

the Street Fighter: Legacy fan made trailer on Youtube. It's low budget, but it's decent
Don't forget MK: Rebirth as well. I still think a live action DBZ movie can work if its in the right hands. People thought a live action Transformers movie would never work out, and look how that turn out since TF became the next biggest movie blockbuster series.
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Post by Scarz » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:14 pm

Who cares about a live action series. I rather see a Dragonball Musical! Who's with me?








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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:07 am

Would it be an animated musical or a live action stage musical?
(Because after the most recent Kai character songs, I'd still kind of like to hear Norio Wakamoto sing as Cell. )

Either way, if they have were to have fun with it instead of being too serious, I think it'd be really enjoyable. :3
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Post by Scarz » Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:56 am

Chuquita wrote:Would it be an animated musical or a live action stage musical?
(Because after the most recent Kai character songs, I'd still kind of like to hear Norio Wakamoto sing as Cell. )

Either way, if they have were to have fun with it instead of being too serious, I think it'd be really enjoyable. :3
I would prefer if it was animated instead of live action since I love animated musical. I especially like those one episode musicals they sometimes have in cartoons like Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

If it was live action that would be cool too but it probably be a disaster like "Spiderman: Turn off the Dark".

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:54 am

Scarz wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Would it be an animated musical or a live action stage musical?
(Because after the most recent Kai character songs, I'd still kind of like to hear Norio Wakamoto sing as Cell. )

Either way, if they have were to have fun with it instead of being too serious, I think it'd be really enjoyable. :3
I would prefer if it was animated instead of live action since I love animated musical. I especially like those one episode musicals they sometimes have in cartoons like Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

If it was live action that would be cool too but it probably be a disaster like "Spiderman: Turn off the Dark".
After seeing that clip I'm so going to need to watch that Batman episode the next time it airs. It looks fun. X3

I heard about what happened with the Spiderman musical: 4 hours long with all those glitches and actors getting stuck on their wires above the audiences. Yikes! @_@

I'd also prefer it animated. The character songs have proven quite a few of the Japanese voice actors can sing in-character. I think Vegeta could definitely defeat Goku in a singing competition; as his singing voice is pretty good whereas Goku's sounds hilariously off. To be fair though, all of Goku's in-character character songs were done when his character was still a child. (I feel child Gohan's whistle-song from Movie 4 sounded nice. Though you couldn't have Goku just whistle his lyrics through the whole thing; I'd want to hear him sing anyway.)

I think adult Goku should get a song to sing in-character on one of the future Kai character song cds.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:34 pm

Nobody can compare Smallville to Dragon Ball. Superman has a very human element where you can actually see real people portrayed the way they are, unlike Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball is fully fantasy. And Smallville not being anything like its comic version is passable since the Superman story has been redone many times over. For something like comic books, where that industry itself reboots their heroes all the time, it's perfectly passable.

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Post by Eddie » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:09 pm

While I do like the Dragon Ball Musical idea that was mentioned, I'm shocked that nobody came up with the most obvious live action DB series idea of all time. Gohan's life at Orange Star High School totally needs to be the CW's next big hit. I can see it now...

Narrator: Last time on Orange Star High

Angela: Listen, you spoiled trash, I know things about Gohan you could only dream of. (Suggestive delivery) *I've* seen him with his pants off!

Videl: You bitch!

Erasa: Videl, no! She's not worth it!

Cue opening credits. (Read: Great Saiyaman dancing to Justin Bieber music)

Scene 1

Sharpener: Yo Gohan!

Gohan: Eh?

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Post by Castor Troy » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:35 pm

If this is done by the same production as "The Magic Begins", then I would glady watch without hesitation.

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Post by SSJ4_Zankuto » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:04 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The thing with a Dragon Ball live action movie is finding someone who would love to direct it. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Godzilla, and Dracula are all icons and loved across worldwide since the chances are you will find a director or someone who is a big fan that would love to work on a movie based on those characters.

Sadly Dragon Ball is not one of them, and most movie directors will view Dragon Ball as a joke.
You could play apart of being that big fan working on the movie or series whatever and it seem only the big fans and akira toriyama and people like know about dragonball from beginning to the end of the series. I say every fan of Dragonball can make a better live action then the filmmakers who did Dragonball Evolution.

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Post by Eddie » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:48 pm

SSJ4_Zankuto wrote:You could play apart of being that big fan working on the movie or series whatever and it seem only the big fans and akira toriyama and people like know about dragonball from beginning to the end of the series. I say every fan of Dragonball can make a better live action then the filmmakers who did Dragonball Evolution.
Sadly, I'd have to disagree with your thoughts on Toriyama remembering the series. He kinda forgot a few things here and there. (By that I mean he forgot entire characters)

As for DBE... eh, there have been many film adaptations that were far worse. Super Mario Bros., Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li, and Elektra come to mind. "Every" fan probably could not make a better movie, as I seriously doubt the average fan has any sort of movie making talent. A fan WITH that skill ,however, well that has potential.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:07 pm

Dragon Ball is one of those stuff that can not be done with a low budget since 40 million is not good enough for a movie based on a series where the character blow shit up when fighting. I also hate that DBE used Stock Footage from "Independence Day" (1996) and AVPR in the flash backs when Goku was looking into the Dragon Balls since that proves that they where too cheap to make their own explosions.

And that visuals for DBE where pretty bad as well, "Spawn" (1997) and "Godzilla" (1998) came out years before had better visuals then DBE did.
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Post by OutlawTorn » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:10 am

Geisha wrote:I think if anyone was going to attempt to do a TV adaptation, it should be the Japanese. Why? Because they at least have a sense of respect for the author and the audience!!
That's not entirely accurate. The Japanese can actually outdo FUNimation with their reversionings. If you think FUNimation giving Frieza a woman's voice was bad for the character, try Japan changing a female character's gender in Beast Wars because toys of female characters aren't big sellers in Japan. Keeping the original opening credits and theme? J-Pop takes center stage. Useless dialogue where there was never any dialogue to being with... this is starting to sound a bit too familiar!

So, no... just because it is Japanese does not automatically make something "the best" or most qualified. Bad adaptations may not be the norm in Japan, but they exist just as they do in North America.

Anyway, I have never been into the whole "let's make a live action version of X" craze, so I think producers should just let an animé be an animé instead of trying to cheapen it by producing an inferior product which people will undoubtedly eat up because it features mindless action and explosions. Many headaches would be prevented that way.

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Post by caejones » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:47 pm

Eddie wrote: As for DBE... eh, there have been many film adaptations that were far worse. Super Mario Bros., Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li, and Elektra come to mind. "Every" fan probably could not make a better movie, as I seriously doubt the average fan has any sort of movie making talent. A fan WITH that skill ,however, well that has potential.
I dunno, the movies you listed strike me as turning out better than DBE. I'm still up in the air on Mario... but I felt like the Chun-li movie managed much better than DBE (I'm not even sure why The Legend of Chun-li gets such a bad rap).

I think there was a pretty solid point made about the DB atmosphere not fitting a live action series--television-wise, anyway.
Live-action series tend to focus on urban settings, even when there are fantastic elements. There are some notable exceptions, of course, but budget / atmosphere / ... well, what direction could such a series possibly go that would be economically viable?

As a bigger-budget Live-action film, it might work, provided the people in charge knew what they were doing.
The concept of a live-action DB serial interests me... but I have no idea how it would work.
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