Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Adamant » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:57 am

Scarz wrote:Daffy Duck vs. Vegeta.
Daffy is the type of gag character who does die, as well as the type of character who has a tendency to lose his battles... so that would be a pretty quick fight.
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Post by Nippolyte » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:55 pm

JLU Superman vs. King Piccolo
Burter vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (racing contest)

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Post by mysticboy » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:44 pm

Nippolyte wrote:JLU Superman vs. King Piccolo
Burter vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (racing contest)
KP & Sonic FTW.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by astrallite » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:05 pm

Superboy Prime versus the Entire DBZ-verse.

The Fury versus the Entire DBZ-verse (The Z-verse is doomed, but how long can they last).

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:04 am

Which Fury? The original Fury that was created by MJJ was a multiversal threat, and was able to adapt to pretty much anything. And that he surrived an attack from the Celestial Nullifier. Everyone from Dragon Ball,Z,GT and movies won't able to do anything to the Fury.

If its the Fury that was created by Jamie Braddock then they might have a chance. And Superboy Prime after his powerup from the guardians would be too much for any Dragon Ball character to handel as well (He surrived a attack that nearly wipe out the universe).
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Rocketman » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:08 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Which Fury? The original Fury that was created by MJJ was a multiversal threat, and was able to adapt to pretty much anything. And that he surrived an attack from the Celestial Nullifier. Everyone from Dragon Ball,Z,GT and movies won't able to do anything to the Fury.

If its the Fury that was created by Jamie Braddock then they might have a chance. And Superboy Prime after his powerup from the guardians would be too much for any Dragon Ball character to handel as well (He surrived a attack that nearly wipe out the universe).
So Vegetto could spank them both, is what I'm getting from this.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by astrallite » Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:35 am

Rocketman wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Which Fury? The original Fury that was created by MJJ was a multiversal threat, and was able to adapt to pretty much anything. And that he surrived an attack from the Celestial Nullifier. Everyone from Dragon Ball,Z,GT and movies won't able to do anything to the Fury.

If its the Fury that was created by Jamie Braddock then they might have a chance. And Superboy Prime after his powerup from the guardians would be too much for any Dragon Ball character to handel as well (He surrived a attack that nearly wipe out the universe).
So Vegetto could spank them both, is what I'm getting from this.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Which Fury? The original Fury that was created by MJJ was a multiversal threat, and was able to adapt to pretty much anything. And that he surrived an attack from the Celestial Nullifier. Everyone from Dragon Ball,Z,GT and movies won't able to do anything to the Fury.
The original Fury. Probably the only guy that could beat HP Doomsday in a re-match.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by DemonRin » Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:22 am

Monkey D. Luffy Post Timeskip Vs. Son Goku.

NOW, with Luffy's ability to use his "Drive" Powers, how many forms would Son have to go through before he begins to best Luffy easily?

Or imagine Luffy with his Drive powers + if He Got the Nightmare Luffy powerup again?

But I think we all know one form of Luffys that could beat Son. Afro Luffy. You can't beat the Brothersoul.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:40 am

Nippolyte wrote:Burter vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (racing contest)
That's hard to tell. Most of the characters in Dragon Ball are heckuva fast anyway, but the most we see Butta do is catch a flying Dragon Ball.

Although, if it was Super Sonic...Butta would lose.
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Post by Shoryuken » Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:28 am

jordanator wrote:Mr. Satan vs. Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee makes short work of Mark. No matter how could he is he can never as good as the Dragon.
jordanator wrote:Spopovich vs. The Gray Hulk
Spopovich has flight and limited ki manipulation. Gray Hulk on the other side could just rip him apart since he has superior strength and a healing factor that should take care of anything Spopovich throws at him.
Nippolyte wrote:JLU Superman vs. King Piccolo
JLU Supes did have some impressive feats of strength such as sending an Brainiac empowered Darkseid flying through several buildings with a single punch. Piccolo Daimaou on the other hand has fire power enough to oblitirate Supes completely.
Nippolyte wrote:Burter vs. Sonic the Hedgehog (racing contest)
Burter is certainly super sonic and should be able to beat Sonic unless we are talking about his super form.
DemonRin wrote:Monkey D. Luffy Post Timeskip Vs. Son Goku.

NOW, with Luffy's ability to use his "Drive" Powers, how many forms would Son have to go through before he begins to best Luffy easily?

Or imagine Luffy with his Drive powers + if He Got the Nightmare Luffy powerup again?

But I think we all know one form of Luffys that could beat Son. Afro Luffy. You can't beat the Brothersoul.
Luffy would probably be at match for DB Goku, but Z Goku is just too much. A single charged kamehameha should be enough to evaporate Luffy. Luffy may be fast in Gear 2, but Goku is supersonic and has the shunkanido.
There is also no attack in Luffy's arsenal that will event dent Goku.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:Which Fury? The original Fury that was created by MJJ was a multiversal threat, and was able to adapt to pretty much anything. And that he surrived an attack from the Celestial Nullifier. Everyone from Dragon Ball,Z,GT and movies won't able to do anything to the Fury.

If its the Fury that was created by Jamie Braddock then they might have a chance. And Superboy Prime after his powerup from the guardians would be too much for any Dragon Ball character to handel as well (He surrived a attack that nearly wipe out the universe).
So Vegetto could spank them both, is what I'm getting from this.
Are you implying that Vegetto has enough power to withstand a universe-busting attack?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by DemonRin » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:37 pm

Shoryuken wrote:
DemonRin wrote:Monkey D. Luffy Post Timeskip Vs. Son Goku.

NOW, with Luffy's ability to use his "Drive" Powers, how many forms would Son have to go through before he begins to best Luffy easily?

Or imagine Luffy with his Drive powers + if He Got the Nightmare Luffy powerup again?

But I think we all know one form of Luffys that could beat Son. Afro Luffy. You can't beat the Brothersoul.
Luffy would probably be at match for DB Goku, but Z Goku is just too much. A single charged kamehameha should be enough to evaporate Luffy. Luffy may be fast in Gear 2, but Goku is supersonic and has the shunkanido.
There is also no attack in Luffy's arsenal that will event dent Goku.
Are you talking pre-timeskip or post-timeskip Luffy?

Because I'm not talking about his Gears, I'm talking about his "Drive" Powers (Haki in jp. Lit. "Ambition")
They let him predict his opponents moves and do much more advanced moves than before. Other characters using Drive have even been able to harm Logia users, and they're made of intangible elements.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:45 pm

astrallite wrote: The original Fury. Probably the only guy that could beat HP Doomsday in a re-match.
Yeah Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Movies are pretty much fucked. Putting the original Fury against Dragon Ball is like putting Majin Buu against Nartuo. No one in Nartuo can do anything to do Buu.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Rocketman » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:46 pm

Shoryuken wrote:Are you implying that Vegetto has enough power to withstand a universe-busting attack?
Implying? No, I'm outright stating it.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:54 pm

The original Fury took on MJJ and was able to become to pretty much immune to everything that he threw at him. MJJ was able to effect everything in the Omniverse.

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Mad Jim Jaspers would destroy the whole Dragon Ball universe with the snap of his fingers. The only way to beat MJJ is to fight him in a void since he needs a reality in order for his powers to work. The Furry was only killed by Captain Britain due to him being weeker after travling back to the 616 universe.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:32 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:No one in Nartuo can do anything to do Buu.
Amaterasu? The Sword of Totsuka? Kamui?
Also, it's Naruto.

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Post by mysticboy » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:54 am

Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:No one in Nartuo can do anything to do Buu.
Amaterasu? The Sword of Totsuka? Kamui?
Nope, nope, and nope.

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Post by Nazi Cola » Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:25 am

Godzilla (at his strongest) vs. Porunga (no magical abilities or anything like that)
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:03 am

Nazi Cola wrote:Godzilla (at his strongest) vs. Porunga (no magical abilities or anything like that)
Porunga has no fighting skills, and without his magicial abilites makes him useless. Godzilla use his nuclear pulse and blows Porunga apart.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by astrallite » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:37 pm

Shoryuken wrote:
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So Vegetto could spank them both, is what I'm getting from this.
Are you implying that Vegetto has enough power to withstand a universe-busting attack?
I've been thinking about just how senselessly stupid DC is, and have come to conclusion that their universe/multiverse itself can't possibly be that large.

The upper bound in physics as we know are hypernovas and the radius is around 13 solar systems.

Even if you instantly detonated the entire mass of the universe, all 125 billion galaxies, at 100% efficiency (E=MC²), the distances between the galaxies are so vast you would not fill the entirety of space-time.

Yet the destruction of entire universes is not uncommon in DC.

This makes me wonder, if you want to talk about a balanced cross-over, that would involve moving all of the characters into a neutral universe, something like ours. They would all obey the same laws of physics. IMO DC would be de-powered at a staggering level if that were the case.

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