Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by Rocketman » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:40 am

penguintruth wrote:I'm glad you're not a writer.
So you prefer Gohan whining like a bitch instead of beating Cell to death with his bare hands. Perhaps you should reevaluate things.

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:44 am

Rocketman wrote:
penguintruth wrote:I'm glad you're not a writer.
So you prefer Gohan whining like a bitch instead of beating Cell to death with his bare hands. Perhaps you should reevaluate things.
I don't remember Gohan "whining like a bitch" in anything except the English dub. I remember Gohan wanting to make sure Cell suffers humiliation and suffering in his defeat, and it being extremely awesome.
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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by El Diabeetus » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:56 am

I went and did a possible track choice, it's probably not that great. But, the monologue was edited out, so was the Narrator too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PURZ_gOVzk

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by Rocketman » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:01 am

penguintruth wrote:I don't remember Gohan "whining like a bitch" in anything except the English dub. I remember Gohan wanting to make sure Cell suffers humiliation and suffering in his defeat, and it being extremely awesome.
It was very awesome how he got his dad and Trunks killed by being a cock instead of crushing the life out of Cell immediately.

Rage doesn't want humiliation. Rage doesn't want suffering. Rage wants death.

Again, compare Gohan's (and Goku on Namek, because I'm honestly not ragging on Gohan alone here) bullshit to Vegeta's reaction to Trunks' death.

If you're capable of talking, of expressing desire, of diverting your attention... you aren't enraged. Rage shuts down those higher functions of the brain.

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:46 am

Unlocking the thread 'cuz I can.

I've publicly warned both Rocketman and penguintruth time and time again. Their posts here are ever-so-slightly just before the point of crossing the line into ban territory, so while I will not go down that road right now, it's worth mentioning that all eyes on are this community, and if you make yourself look bad, you make everyone look bad. The point of this community is that we have the knowledge, experience, and ability to communicate effectively, and above all else, politely. If you cannot do that, you will no longer be posting here.

Clearly something like how a scene of this significance is handled is one that will bring up emotions. Keep them in check. Explain them without lashing out. This all seems so common-sense to me, and I'm struggling to understand why folks that have been around for so long can't seem to act their age.
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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:09 am

Actually unlocking the thread 'cuz apparently Mike can't. :P

Yeah, I spent all day yesterday on the road and didn't have the mental power to make that point either way, so I intended to open it back up today anyway. Seriously, folks, I know I put in my two cents on the subject too, but let's try not to let it escelate to rudeness, 'K?
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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:06 pm

Kaboom wrote:Actually unlocking the thread 'cuz apparently Mike can't. :P
The Webmaster can't unlock a thread?? What has this world come to :lol:

I think it will be hard to replace Spirit vs. Spirit, since it just fits so perfectly already!
But since I haven't heard the latest album of Kai music it might be that there really is a song that can be played instead of spirit vs. spirit and actually compliment the scene like S vs. S did.

Then again I don't consider DBK music that great, so maybe it'll be a giant disappointment to veteran fans, when the music is revealed...

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by sbk » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:25 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Kaboom wrote:Also, don't forget the minute "standing around" element is also an anime embellishment for dramatic effect. In the manga, he starts stomping around and making Cell Jrs go splat almost right away. In fact, we don't even know yet if or how Kai will edit the scene, come to think of it.
That'll be very interesting to see, since Toei did two versions of the transformation.
I like the quick transformation in episode 184 better, the one where Gohan's face goes from teary-eyed to pissed.. I hope they choose that one and not the other one.

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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:55 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Unlocking the thread 'cuz I can.

I've publicly warned both Rocketman and penguintruth time and time again. Their posts here are ever-so-slightly just before the point of crossing the line into ban territory, so while I will not go down that road right now, it's worth mentioning that all eyes on are this community, and if you make yourself look bad, you make everyone look bad. The point of this community is that we have the knowledge, experience, and ability to communicate effectively, and above all else, politely. If you cannot do that, you will no longer be posting here.

Clearly something like how a scene of this significance is handled is one that will bring up emotions. Keep them in check. Explain them without lashing out. This all seems so common-sense to me, and I'm struggling to understand why folks that have been around for so long can't seem to act their age.
Neither of us were lashing out in the slightest. Show me where we were. We were both justifying our arguments with explanations. Gentle barbs at each other is hardly a brawl.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by Rocketman » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:20 am

I would like to know as well.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:02 am

I've already noted that it wasn't past the point of no return, and I'm not even sure why the thread was locked without further explanation (probably just as a preventative measure to get some sleep, which is fine).

At the same time, I simply can't allow another back-and-forth tirade of expletive-laden critiques of performances and writing between you two. I understand that you've got each others' shticks totally down-pat and can play off of them to what you find hilarious levels of awesomeness, but it just makes for atrocious message board content. It's not how conversations here should be taking place, and you both know that.

If you want to get into it off this thread I'm more than happy to do so, but I don't think it's really worth our time and effort. Move on with the topic and let's get things accomplished!
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Re: Super Saiyan 2 Transformation Score Possibilities

Post by Zephyr » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:39 pm

Didn't Kai use 1 song from the original soundtrack already?

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:56 pm

Zephyr wrote:Didn't Kai use 1 song from the original soundtrack already?
Nope, all of the music is new.
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