Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell

[Hellspawn28]

Who do you think would win? Cell can't asborb Super #13 neither in this match. Sorry if this thread has been done before since I search for it and found nothing.

[Sean]

I think they'd both absorb each other and create a horrid, horrid masterpiece.

[p123]

Well it's all dependant on several factors..


Movie Characters = Android Arc SSJs?


If that's true we have a decent basis of powers..

Based on that, Android 16 could have easily accomplished all of the feats Super 13 did, 16 is just so far beyond the SSJs at this point, it's laughable.

Cell who = 16, tanks a likely strong blast or probably amplified attack from Piccolo like it was nothing. 17 and Piccolo are both stronger than 18, not by a huge margin, but indeed superior. 18 is rivals with Piccolo W/Weights, who is supremely confident in beating an Imperfect Cell Pre Absorbtion. Who is suggested to be stronger than Vegeta as well... 18 calls Vegeta a straight up weakling, and says that he is helpless.


So we have...



Android 16/Cell >>> 17/Piccolo > 18 >= Piccolo Weights > Imperfect Cell > SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku > SSJ Trunks



As we can see, 16 is going to be able to pull off some major feats against the Pre Rosat SSJs...

[Nazi Cola]

I'd give it to #16. He seems more competent to me for some reason. I see them around the same level, though.

[Vagrant]

Semi-Perfect Cell in a landslide. I put Super 13 at about the same level as #16, and #16 as being equal to Genocide Absorption Imperfect Cell. I still peg #16 as slightly stronger than #16, as one of the Daizenshuu mentions that "Aside from Cell, #16 is the strongest android". And I'm fairly certain from memory that this was dealing with all Androids, not just from the manga.

[Nazi Cola]

Oh, this isn't involving #16? I must've read wrong. In that case, Semi-Perfect Cell facenuts Super 13 to death.

[Fox666]

Based on that, Android 16 could have easily accomplished all of the feats Super 13 did, 16 is just so far beyond the SSJs at this point, it's laughable.

Android 16/Cell >>> 17/Piccolo > 18 >= Piccolo Weights > Imperfect Cell > SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku > SSJ Trunks

"Laughable" is a good description.

Imperfect Cell could defeat all of these with a single hit. And Semi-perfect Cell?

[Zephyr]

Based on that, Android 16 could have easily accomplished all of the feats Super 13 did, 16 is just so far beyond the SSJs at this point, it's laughable.

Android 16/Cell >>> 17/Piccolo > 18 >= Piccolo Weights > Imperfect Cell > SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku > SSJ Trunks

"Laughable" is a good description.

Imperfect Cell could defeat all of these with a single hit.

Including Android 16? The one who beat the living shit out of him?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Based on that, Android 16 could have easily accomplished all of the feats Super 13 did, 16 is just so far beyond the SSJs at this point, it's laughable.

Android 16/Cell >>> 17/Piccolo > 18 >= Piccolo Weights > Imperfect Cell > SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku > SSJ Trunks

"Laughable" is a good description.

Imperfect Cell could defeat all of these with a single hit.

Including Android 16? The one who beat the living shit out of him?

Imperfect Cell actually had the upper hand in his even fight with #16, and #16 had to rocket punch Cell off-guard before he could use his Hell's Flash.

[Fox666]

I mean all the SSJs (Goku, Vegeta and Trunks)

#16 is equal to Cell, according to himself

[Zephyr]

Imperfect Cell could defeat all of these with a single hit.

Including Android 16? The one who beat the living shit out of him?

Imperfect Cell actually had the upper hand in his even fight with #16, and #16 had to rocket punch Cell off-guard before he could use his Hell's Flash.

Ah okay, I haven't seen that part for a while. Saying Imperfect Cell could defeat him with a single hit was still an exaggeration though (as was what I said ).

[Piccolo Daimao]

Ah okay, I haven't seen that part for a while. Saying Imperfect Cell could defeat him with a single hit was still an exaggeration though (as was what I said ).

Yeah, I agree. Imperfect Cell was marginally stronger than #16 at most.

As for the topic at hand...I'd give the win to Semi-Perfect Cell. I see Super #13 at around #16 level at most, since both of them outclass the Super Saiyans and Piccolo. And Semi-Perfect Cell is even stronger than #16.

[p123]

Yea Cell Post Absorbtion and 16 should be on about even terms. 16 says he thinks they are about equal. 16 does marginally better in the fight I would assume because Cell is a little bit distracted. Cell is trying to ward off Piccolo and 17, while trying to absorb 17, and fight off 16. So this is almost a 3 on 1 scenario. Cell ~ 16 should be the proper thought though..

[Nippolyte]

Semi Perfect Cell should win this, although we don't really know how Super 13 compares to canon characters. Let's look at it this way.

Super Android 13 is a fusion of three androids (with possible multipliers). One android was equal with a super saiyan, and two were only a bit weaker than a super saiyan. So Super 13 is pretty much three Pre-ROSAT super saiyans combined into one.

Semi Perfect Cell is a combination of Imperfect Cell and Android 17. Super Android 13 may be a combination of three androids while Semi Cell is only a mere combination of two, but Imperfect Cell (after absorbing thousands of humans) and android 17 are far superior to 13, 14, and 15.

[p123]

Yea even if we did simple addition of 13 + 14 + 15 it wouldn't be anywhere near Semi Cell I would think...


13 = Goku
14 = Vegeta
15 = Trunks


Right?

So let me try using my numbers....

Semi Cell 875
Super 13 735
Android 16 500
17 375
18 350
Vegeta 260
Goku 250
Trunks 225


Hey, using simple addition does put Super 13 a bit higher than I expected...

[Perfect]

Genocide Absorption Imperfect Cell.

That's one I haven't heard before.

[Fox666]

Semi Cell 875
Android 16 500
17 375

I certain don't agree with that. For me it was clear that Imperfect Cell should be ridiculously beyond Piccolo, it looked like every punch of Cell would make Piccolo head fall apart. I believe the difference beetween Piccolo and Imperfect Cell is what you made beetween Piccolo and Semi-perfect Cell.

[Nippolyte]

Well it's all dependant on several factors..


Movie Characters = Android Arc SSJs?


If that's true we have a decent basis of powers..

Based on that, Android 16 could have easily accomplished all of the feats Super 13 did, 16 is just so far beyond the SSJs at this point, it's laughable.

As we can see, 16 is going to be able to pull off some major feats against the Pre Rosat SSJs...

Even Android 17 and 18 could have done everything Super 13 did. 17 one shotted Piccolo and 18 easily beat Trunks and wiped the floor with Vegeta when she got serious. Although nothing really suggests that they could take punches and kicks from Pre Rosat super saiyans without moving an inch like Super 13 did.

[p123]

You could be right... I think the 75% margin dictated by Vegeta and Reecome would definitley be the minimum , but your right, Imperfect Cell could be a hell of a lot higher...

[Son Edo]

Yea even if we did simple addition of 13 + 14 + 15 it wouldn't be anywhere near Semi Cell I would think...


13 = Goku
14 = Vegeta
15 = Trunks


Right?

So let me try using my numbers....

Semi Cell 875
Super 13 735
Android 16 500
17 375
18 350
Vegeta 260
Goku 250
Trunks 225


Hey, using simple addition does put Super 13 a bit higher than I expected...

This pretty much.