Super Earthling

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Do you think Tien and Krillin should have gotten a transformation? Or perhaps fusion.

[Fox666]

They would transform on what?

[Rocketman]

They can't fuse by the dance, their heights are too different.

On a larger scale, one thing I like about Dragonball is it lasts long enough to show four or five different generations of fighters arise. Granted, the obsession with ~GOKU~ means that the generations are packed in really ridiculously tight so he's never made irrelevant by age (Mystic Gohan is roughly as old as the Goku who killed King Piccolo, Fusion Goten is about half as old as the Goku that nearly beat Roshi, and Pan is half as old as the Goten who fights Buu), but the feel is still there.

So, no. Tien and Krillin's time had passed. Giving them a Super transformation would be as silly (if great for a what-if deal) as powering up Nam or Roshi or King Chappa.

[lash]

I kind of have to agree with Rocketman. Their shining time was pretty much long past once the Buu arc came around.

They can't fuse by the dance, their heights are too different.

I dunno...That didn't seem to stop Goku from wanting to try it with Vegeta and Gohan.

[Fox666]

You mean once the Namek saga came around?

[Rocketman]

They can't fuse by the dance, their heights are too different.

I dunno...That didn't seem to stop Goku from wanting to try it with Vegeta and Gohan.

Then the difference in height between him, Vegeta and Gohan isn't enough to disallow the fusion. Meanwhile, Krillin's eye level is about equal to Tien's junk.

[Son Geeko]

Super Earthling? Hm, I wonder how that would look like...

[astrallite]

The real question is how strong would Tien be if he split himself into 4 and then all 4 copies fused together

Considering how you view the fusion modifier he might be Perfect Cell level.

[Godo]

Super Earthling? Hm, I wonder how that would look like...

Like your avatar, probably.


I have always thought of the Rou Kaioshin power unlock as a possible way for the humans to get stronger. I mean, it worked very well with Gohan (who had been sitting on his ass for 7 years).
The question here is whether the humans can get any stronger with that method, and if they can, if it's even high enough to matter. My opinion is that, no, it wouldn't probably.
Although a Yamcha/Tenshinhan fusion might have been something spectacular in that case.

[Rocketman]

I have always thought of the Rou Kaioshin power unlock as a possible way for the humans to get stronger. I mean, it worked very well with Gohan (who had been sitting on his ass for 7 years).

Well yeah, but Gohan is Gohan. :P

[Piccolo Daimao]

The real question is how strong would Tenshinhan be if he split himself into 4 and then all 4 copies fused together

It would be pointless, because splitting into 4 people means that your attack, defense, speed and everything gets divided in 4 as well.

[Godo]

I have always thought of the Rou Kaioshin power unlock as a possible way for the humans to get stronger. I mean, it worked very well with Gohan (who had been sitting on his ass for 7 years).

Well yeah, but Gohan is Gohan.

True dat.

The real question is how strong would Tenshinhan be if he split himself into 4 and then all 4 copies fused together

It would be pointless, because splitting into 4 people means that your attack, defense, speed and everything gets divided in 4 as well.

But fusion in itself is more than addition.
If we say that the formula is A+Bx2 [example] or something similar to that, the result of Tenshinhan's fusion would still be stronger than himself.

Tenshinhan: 20

Tenshinhan/4 = 5

T1= 5
T2= 5
T3= 5
T4= 5

(T1)+(T2)x2= 20 = Tx
(T3)+(T4)x2= 20 = Ty

(Tx)+(Ty)x2= 80

If fusing with a fusee would be possible, Tenshinhan using the fusion dance on himself would prove to be stronger than him not using it.
In any case we get two Tenshinhans with the same power.

[Piccolo Daimao]

The real question is how strong would Tenshinhan be if he split himself into 4 and then all 4 copies fused together

It would be pointless, because splitting into 4 people means that your attack, defense, speed and everything gets divided in 4 as well.

But fusion in itself is more than addition.
If we say that the formula is A+Bx2 [example] or something similar to that, the result of Tenshinhan's fusion would still be stronger than himself.

Tenshinhan: 20

Tenshinhan/4 = 5

T1= 5
T2= 5
T3= 5
T4= 5

(T1)+(T2)x2= 20 = Tx
(T3)+(T4)x2= 20 = Ty

(Tx)+(Ty)x2= 80

If fusing with a fusee would be possible, Tenshinhan using the fusion dance on himself would prove to be stronger than him not using it.
In any case we get two Tenshinhans with the same power.

Ah, OK, I get you.

[astrallite]

Yeah and if it's the potara fusion you might see something even crazier with the 4 Tiens

I mean Vegitto had to be something like (A+B)*100 to overcome Gohan, Super Buu, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, 18, Krillin, and Yamcha, considering he used just SSJ1.

[Makaioshin]

I'd rather them use the Kaio-ken to stay in the game a little longer than a random transformation.
But then again I think I side more with Rocketman, even though I do really like the Earthlings.

Super Earthling? Hm, I wonder how that would look like...

Like your avatar, probably.


I have always thought of the Rou Kaioshin power unlock as a possible way for the humans to get stronger. I mean, it worked very well with Gohan (who had been sitting on his ass for 7 years).
The question here is whether the humans can get any stronger with that method, and if they can, if it's even high enough to matter. My opinion is that, no, it wouldn't probably.
Although a Yamcha/Tenshinhan fusion might have been something spectacular in that case.

There would also have to be reason for them to get their power unlocked over Goku, Vegeta, and the others.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I'd rather them use the Kaio-ken to stay in the game a little longer than a random transformation.

My theory for why they couldn't use the Kaio-ken is not that Kaio didn't teach it to them, but they couldn't master it like Goku did. Goku was the only one able to master the Kaio-ken (also, Toriyama probably preferred to have it as a technique unique to Goku).

I think that they either couldn't use the Genki-Dama for the same reason, or they could, but the opportunity never came up because they knew it wouldn't work against the villains they were facing anyway.

[Makaioshin]

I'd rather them use the Kaio-ken to stay in the game a little longer than a random transformation.

My theory for why they couldn't use the Kaio-ken is not that Kaio didn't teach it to them, but they couldn't master it like Goku did. Goku was the only one able to master the Kaio-ken (also, Toriyama probably preferred to have it as a technique unique to Goku).

I think that they either couldn't use the Genki-Dama for the same reason, or they could, but the opportunity never came up because they knew it wouldn't work against the villains they were facing anyway.

I suppose either could work for an in-universe explanation. I just assumed that Toriyama wanted to put more focus on the newer characters(Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks) and the Earthlings would detract from it. They were already fully developed characters anyway while the newer characters had room to grow.

[Fox666]

The real question is how strong would Tenshinhan be if he split himself into 4 and then all 4 copies fused together

I believe that wouldn't serve for anything. The fusion takes the best of the two parts, and I believe if Trunks travel back to past and fuse with the current era Trunks, the result wouldn't be greater than the parts.

Also Tenshinhan splitting technique doesn't create different beings, he can act as such, however he is still one being.

[p123]

It's a shame really that the Earthlings were so useless... But when dealing with intergalactic powers, I can understand their abilities being like nothing. It's too bad Bulma/Dr Briefs couldn't have created something to make the humans more useful, I mean we are talking about some of the top scientists in the entire universe right here on Earth, creating time machines and shit, but can't help out Tien? God Damn...

[Vagrant]

Cyborg implants! Infinite Energy generators for all and sundry! That's the way to empower the humans.

Fusion is weaksauce for such people as Earthlings. I don't even peg a Potara Tenshinhan - Kurilin fusion as being above initial True Form Freeza. Implants are the way to go. That and genetic manipulation, or wishes to Shenlong for UNLIMITED POWAH.