Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[MugiMikey]

They aren't dubbed.

Goku's dialogue is even better unedited during his transformation.

"You... ruthless... bastard...!! I'll... make you... suffer!!!"

[JulieYBM]

Are there any extras, besides trailers and textless music that is?

[MugiMikey]

Nope.

There's a trailer for Part 5 of Kai though (it's pretty neat), but I'm not sure if that has surfaced online yet. I'd rip it, but I can't as I have the Blu-ray version. They use the term "Androids" in the trailer. Sorry to those of you that were hoping for Artificial Humans or something along the lines of that.

[negimagi2k]

I just got Kai Part 4, and it sounds like Greg Ayres is singing Dragon Soul, although I could be wrong.

With that said, it sounds like a higher pitched version of Justin Cook's cover.

Can you please post a clip showcasing the new opening with the new singer?
And its very unfortunate they haven't dubbed those insert songs. It makes my hope bleak for "Kokoro no Hane"

[KaiserNeko]

I just got Kai Part 4, and it sounds like Greg Ayres is singing Dragon Soul, although I could be wrong.

With that said, it sounds like a higher pitched version of Justin Cook's cover.

Can you please post a clip showcasing the new opening with the new singer?
And its very unfortunate they haven't dubbed those insert songs. It makes my hope bleak for "Kokoro no Hane"

It shouldn't. With insert songs, they may just not have anything resembling a karaoke track to work with. Furthermore, the Closing is somewhat more prevalent than an insert song at the very least. I'd expect them to dub that at the very -least-, if precedence stands to reason.

[Mewzard]

I hear that Japanese Trunk's speaking basic Japanese translates to extreme politeness, which I don't know how you would really emulate in English

From what I understand, the Naruto dub has Rock Lee speak as politely as can be expected in an English, and does not use contractions. That's a perfectly fine adaptation, and one that FUNimation could have taken a hint from.

Take away that part of Trunks' character, and you're losing QUITE a bit in translation.

Rock Lee basically speaks as if the translators directly translated the dialogue without any addition or changes, so he sounds as if what you'd expect if you're reading subs of the Japanese version. This also worked too. But with Trunks here, they made him a smack-talking, almost cocky ...

Well, Trunks was basically talking down to Freeza, King Cold, and his men for most of his appearance. He doesn't talk the same way with the others. At least, not that I can recall.

[sailorspazz]

Did anybody notice they went back to the old opening animation for this episode? Last week's episode had the Android saga opening, but this week was the Saiyan saga opening.

It looks like Thursday's episode went back to the correct Android saga opening. I wonder if they'll just switch between them at random.

Does the man really look any heavier?

Even though he's short, Vegeta is really heavily muscled. 135 pounds is the weight of an average height average weight girl. Vegeta should be way more.

I looked at some random online weight/height charts. If Vegeta's only, say, 5 feet tall (which seems likely since Gokuu is only about 5' 7" and there's quite a gap between them if you don't count Vegeta's hair), the average weight for a man of that height is around 125~140 lb. I have no idea how much weight the inflated muscles would add, though. I have to wonder if Toriyama actually bothered to figure out how much Vegeta would weigh taking his muscle mass into account, or if he just said, "Well, he's a pretty short guy, so....60 kg. That'll do."

I noticed the TV version cut out a bit of Trunk's explanation about his parentage. They skipped the part where he originally said that Yamcha had cheated on Bulma and went right to him saying "...they broke up, and then there was my dad." I believe they also cut the part after that when Trunks says that they didn't get married, either (or maybe they just translated it to something different). I can only imagine how the Toonzai version of his explanation will go...

Toonzai Trunks: "My parents fell in love and got married! And then, no less than nine months later, a stork left me in a cabbage patch at Capsule Corporation. And we all lived happily ever after..."

Until everyone died horrifically....and speaking of that, I'm really starting to get annoyed at all the pussified death talk that we're getting: "...they'll all be gone...", "...you won't recover...", "they fell to the Androids..." Almost find myself missing "another dimension."

[NeoKING]

Until everyone died horrifically....and speaking of that, I'm really starting to get annoyed at all the pussified death talk that we're getting: "...they'll all be gone...", "...you won't recover...", "they fell to the Androids..." Almost find myself missing "another dimension."

It really bothers you that much? I don't find it that big a deal considering that death is heavily implied in addition to Nicktoons even allowing characters mentioning others being killed.(Ex. during the Freeza fight, Gohan tells Freeza that "he killed [his] dad," verbatim before SSJ Goku rises from the ocean) I mean they're basically using euphemisms at this point and I think that's perfectly okay.

[ohaimynameiserik]

They aren't dubbed.

Goku's dialogue is even better unedited during his transformation.

"You... ruthless... bastard...!! I'll... make you... suffer!!!"

Fantasmo! I hope links pop up soon, I won't get my copy til Monday.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Until everyone died horrifically....and speaking of that, I'm really starting to get annoyed at all the pussified death talk that we're getting: "...they'll all be gone...", "...you won't recover...", "they fell to the Androids..." Almost find myself missing "another dimension."

It really bothers you that much? I don't find it that big a deal considering that death is heavily implied in addition to Nicktoons even allowing characters mentioning others being killed.(Ex. during the Freeza fight, Gohan tells Freeza that "he killed [his] dad," verbatim before SSJ Goku rises from the ocean) I mean they're basically using euphemisms at this point and I think that's perfectly okay.

Nicktoons has been fine; I understand all their edits. I think the target of the post is Toonzai, which no one who cares enough to post on this forum should be watching for anything but laughs, as if Funi really felt that 4kids wanted Blue Popo, that's all it can be taken for.

They aren't dubbed.

Goku's dialogue is even better unedited during his transformation.

"You... ruthless... bastard...!! I'll... make you... suffer!!!"

Fantasmo! I hope links pop up soon, I won't get my copy til Monday.

Woot! Angry words! Makes actually picking up the Freeza Kai boxes at some point more tempting, as the flat original version has been delaying my purchase of the second and third DBoxes... for some reason? Might as well get on those.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I'm waiting for the blu-ray's before I judge Trunk's voice as everything sounds like requests from the network. Vales acting is better but it could have been requested to sound raspy which makes no sense what so ever..

Now I haven' even watched any eps since the freeza ark, do they actually pronounce "gero" right? In the Japanese version it's sounds like "jero"

In the Japanese version it's "Gero" with a hard G. It's the dub where they changed it to something sounding like "Jero."

They pronounce the g as it would be in French before an e, i or y. The female name "Genevèive" is a common example of this.


As for why FUNi chose this pronunciation, I have no idea.

[sailorspazz]

Until everyone died horrifically....and speaking of that, I'm really starting to get annoyed at all the pussified death talk that we're getting: "...they'll all be gone...", "...you won't recover...", "they fell to the Androids..." Almost find myself missing "another dimension."

It really bothers you that much? I don't find it that big a deal considering that death is heavily implied in addition to Nicktoons even allowing characters mentioning others being killed.(Ex. during the Freeza fight, Gohan tells Freeza that "he killed [his] dad," verbatim before SSJ Goku rises from the ocean) I mean they're basically using euphemisms at this point and I think that's perfectly okay.

It honestly seems like the last couple of times 'killed' was used that it probably just slipped by as an error. Really, if they edit variations of 'die' or 'kill' 10 times in an episode and allow one usage, it probably means they just missed it. In fact, I don't think any instances of 'die' or 'kill' have made it through since the scene you mentioned where Gohan said it. I just get irritated when I start to hear the characters dancing around the subject and I can just tell that it's clearly been edited. Like when Trunks says "they fell to the Androids", I'm just mentally replacing it with "they were killed by the Androids," and wishing I could be hearing that instead of what he's being edited to say (though I know I'll be able to hear it later on the DVD....and of course there's always the superior Japanese version ^_^)

Maybe it's worse because at this point in the DBZ dub they were able to reference death, so I'm used to remembering the dub characters being able to say it, whereas in the earlier episodes I had become accustomed to all the "other dimension" stuff, so the absence of death talk wasn't so jarring.

[mystic trunks]

Does the man really look any heavier?

Even though he's short, Vegeta is really heavily muscled. 135 pounds is the weight of an average height average weight girl. Vegeta should be way more.

Exactly. Vegeta looks to be 200-205 lbs.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Wasn't Dr. Briefs just speaking hypothetically? I mean, he used the exact same example for Goku in the Namec arc, when telling Goku about the gravity machine on his ship.

[batistabus]

Vegeta's pretty jacked, but you have to remember how short he is. Isn't Goku like 5'7"? Vegeta is that much smaller.

[mystic trunks]

There are bodybuilders that are 5'7 that are north of 300 lbs. I see no reason why Vegeta couldn't be 5'3 200 lbs. He's a saiyan for chrissake.

[Mewzard]

There are bodybuilders that are 5'7 that are north of 300 lbs. I see no reason why Vegeta couldn't be 5'3 200 lbs. He's a saiyan for chrissake.

That's just the point: While he is powerful, he's not hulking like some of those guys. He's muscular, but he's nowhere near as muscular as how our some people can get. I would give up, at his muscle mass and height, maybe 175 lbs at the most. Any more wouldn't match his size vs his build.

[DB_Fan1991]

I have some news regarding Dragon Soul for parts 5 & 6. http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showpost ... tcount=979

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I think the singer for "Part 6" will probably going to be whoever the one who voices Cell.

[Innagadadavida]

There are bodybuilders that are 5'7 that are north of 300 lbs. I see no reason why Vegeta couldn't be 5'3 200 lbs. He's a saiyan for chrissake.

A Saiyan who has the ability to transform into a giant ape, as well as beef up on command. And, since matter can not simply be created, I have to assume that he weighs at least as much as a giant ape.