Toei Officially Acknowledges Yamamoto's Kai Rip-Offs

[Makaioshin]

As a manga fan I found the score by Kikuchi as one of the best things about the animated series and it is one of the reasons I prefer Z over Kai. That might switch now. (If only they could get rid of some of those redrawn scenes and had the Boo arc)
Sorta feel bad for Yamamoto, though. Even if he brought it on himself.

[Metalwario64]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

[CODii]

As a manga fan I found the score by Kikuchi as one of the best things about the animated series and it is one of the reasons I prefer Z over Kai. That might switch now. (If only they could get rid of some of those redrawn scenes and had the Boo arc)
Sorta feel bad for Yamamoto, though. Even if he brought it on himself.

Not that you can't enjoy Kikuchi's score, (I know I certainly do) but how does being a fan of the manga have anything to do with choice of score? It's not like the manga comes with music.

[Tsukento]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

Probably not, since that wasn't a Kikuchi score.

Would've been awesome if they got Hironobu Kageyama's music back, as well. ;_;

[Makaioshin]

As a manga fan I found the score by Kikuchi as one of the best things about the animated series and it is one of the reasons I prefer Z over Kai. That might switch now. (If only they could get rid of some of those redrawn scenes and had the Boo arc)
Sorta feel bad for Yamamoto, though. Even if he brought it on himself.

Not that you can't enjoy Kikuchi's score, (I know I certainly do) but how does being a fan of the manga have anything to do with choice of score? It's not like the manga comes with music.

Sorry for not wording it properly. After reading it again I see it doesn't make much sense.
I meant that I preferred Z over the manga cut version of the show because of Kikuchi's score.

[Metalwario64]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

Probably not, since that wasn't a Kikuchi score.

Would've been awesome if they got Hironobu Kageyama's music back, as well. ;_;

In all seriousness though, wasn't Kai's track composed by Yamamoto? I wonder if they'll get some new insert song, or use one of Kikuchi's BGM's for the scene, which would be interesting.

[CODii]

As a manga fan I found the score by Kikuchi as one of the best things about the animated series and it is one of the reasons I prefer Z over Kai. That might switch now. (If only they could get rid of some of those redrawn scenes and had the Boo arc)
Sorta feel bad for Yamamoto, though. Even if he brought it on himself.

Not that you can't enjoy Kikuchi's score, (I know I certainly do) but how does being a fan of the manga have anything to do with choice of score? It's not like the manga comes with music.

Sorry for not wording it properly. After reading it again I see it doesn't make much sense.
I meant that I preferred Z over the manga cut version of the show because of Kikuchi's score.

You don't have to apologize. That definitely makes more sense though.

[Red Tiger]

I'm curious to see, what will happen to Kenji Yamamoto.

[fps_anth]

Good lord, if we get Kai with the Kikuchi score...

[kei17]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

I expected that as well, but the answer is no. According to a person on 2ch who watched the replaced-music version of episode 92, they put M817 there. What a bad choice.

[JulieYBM]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

I expected that as well, but the answer is no. According to a person on 2ch who watched the replaced-music version of episode 92, they put M817 there. What a bad choice.

Good grief, really?

Any chance we can get some clips from these re-airings?

[kei17]

Just thought of something: does this mean we'll get Spirit VS. Spirit back for Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 transformation?

I expected that as well, but the answer is no. According to a person on 2ch who watched the replaced-music version of episode 92, they put M817 there. What a bad choice.

Good grief, really?

Any chance we can get some clips from these re-airings?

I have been trying, but I haven't found anyone can provide something solid to us yet. It is said that the episode of Goku's fight against Cell was also broadcast with the Kikuchi score in other area.

[penguintruth]

The SSJ2 scene music will be replaced by "Broken Wings" by Mister Mister.

For obvious reasons.

(Seriously though, Kikuchi doing music for Kai? If it's old stuff, okay, but if it's new stuff, orgasm.)

In b4 Faulconer faithful demanding Faulconer do the replacement music.

[NeoKING]

I don't get why Yamamoto is being blamed here though. It's so common for this to be done that it's often allowed. Toei's being real sticks in the mud here. That could just be his style; inspiration goes a long way when it comes to creation. See the Japanese Sonic CD soundtrack and how much 80's-90's tunes that "ripped-off." That Yamamoto "Dragon Ball'd" these themes and made them work says something. But that's just my opinion.

[batistabus]

Aw...I really liked those pieces. Apparently so did Yamamoto xD

[AoiKageNoChikara]

I haven't been here for a while XD and what's the most shocking news for Kai!!? OwO Yamamoto Is Fired! LOL If kikuchi is really the composer, and he writes new music, WELCOME BACK KIKUCHI! if they are re-using old score..... that seriusly BAD, do they really give a heck about Db anymore? I mean, they coulda fired yamamoto and search a better composer say halfway through the series.... but No T.T if old kikuchi score replaces some of the brilliance of Yamamoto I hope they atleast use the best tracks. WHY NOT HIRE PTETSS's Composer!!? He's like a young Kikuchi if he made great music for a 30+ minutes special he could do amazingly well for the anime. this is like the worst thing to happen to Kai! no wonder it's DEAD in japan

[MCDaveG]

Hahaha!!! So I tought at least, because I'm a music producer too, that they at least paid for those rip-offs
As it is the standard mesaure in music industry, if you aren't in good relationship or simply ask the original composer if you can ''borrow'' his creation.
Wow, after those years of Yamamoto rip-offs
And I bet it's after those many years because of US Kai broadcast and someone from States sent a nice letter to TOEI.

I take it as a slap to face to those fans, who were always defending Yamamoto, that he's still great composer even if he's borrowing from others......
But good composers are using someones ideas in different manners as paying a homage and the piece is completely different from original, mostly borrowing only some few signature notes or background. One great example is John Williams

[Metalwario64]

According to a person on 2ch who watched the replaced-music version of episode 92, they put M817 there. What a bad choice.

Wow, are you kidding me?

That's way worse than what Yamamoto did for the scene. I guess using Kikuchi's score means nothing of they still don't know how to properly score the damn tunes. It's like the embodiment of many dub fans who accuse the Japanese score of being "way too mellow and calm".

If they are going to score it like this, then I'm no longer excited about Kikuchi's music being used.

[CODii]

I haven't been here for a while XD and what's the most shocking news for Kai!!? OwO Yamamoto Is Fired! LOL If kikuchi is really the composer, and he writes new music, WELCOME BACK KIKUCHI! if they are re-using old score..... that seriusly BAD, do they really give a heck about Db anymore? I mean, they coulda fired yamamoto and search a better composer say halfway through the series.... but No T.T if old kikuchi score replaces some of the brilliance of Yamamoto I hope they atleast use the best tracks. WHY NOT HIRE PTETSS's Composer!!? He's like a young Kikuchi if he made great music for a 30+ minutes special he could do amazingly well for the anime. this is like the worst thing to happen to Kai! no wonder it's DEAD in japan

Your argument doesn't make any sense. How can this news be the reason that Kai is struggling when the show was planned to end before this news?

[kei17]

According to a person on 2ch who watched the replaced-music version of episode 92, they put M817 there. What a bad choice.

Wow, are you kidding me?

That's way worse than what Yamamoto did for the scene. I guess using Kikuchi's score means nothing of they still don't know how to properly score the damn tunes. It's like the embodiment of many dub fans who accuse the Japanese score of being "way too mellow and calm".

If they are going to score it like this, then I'm no longer excited about Kikuchi's music being used.

Yukio Nagasaki is still listed as the director of audiography. That means the musical choice still sucks.