DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

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Re: DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

Post by DB_Fan1991 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:56 pm

Episode 28 had no retroactive uncensoring, and Sanjou! Ginyu Tokusentai was still the Japanese/English mix that we heard on Toonzai.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:57 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:It's not on there. The full one at least. The "carts" are actually uploaded.

http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-a.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-b.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-c.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-d.html
http://nicktoons.nick.com/videos/clip/d ... art-e.html

The next preview isn't up yet.

Hilarious that the description uses Room of Spirit and Time.
Lols. Hopefully they'll sat Rosat in the uncut version. :wink:

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Post by kei17 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:19 pm

It is strange that their voice resonates in the Room of Spirit and Time which is about as large as the earth. The reverb effect should be removed when they produce the uncut release.

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:12 pm

Episode 35 is airing now, and there is no retroactive uncensoring, but what is new is the Kikuchi music mix. It is not the same mix that Toonzai used, so after Goku & Ginyu change back into their own bodies Baby Gohan's theme does not play.
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Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:51 am

What is with all the badasses going "Hi.." like they have seen Abridged Popo lol. Cell did it, now Vegeta.
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Post by funrush » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:29 pm

Just saw the new episode and they decided to use the fourth Dragon Soul animation on Nicktoons.

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Post by gmster » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:44 pm

Just saw the new episode and they decided to use the fourth Dragon Soul animation on Nicktoons.
Cool. That means they'll use it on Toonzai. I wonder why they never used the second animation. That was the best one imo.

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Post by MetroidJunkie » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:44 pm

They seem to have positioned Frieza's theme that plays during Krillin's initial impalement. It starts when the camera's on Krillin and it plays in full (the uncut version's full anyway) instead of stopping abruptly.

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:23 pm

MetroidJunkie wrote:They seem to have positioned Freeza's theme that plays during Krillin's initial impalement. It starts when the camera's on Krillin and it plays in full (the uncut version's full anyway) instead of stopping abruptly.
They did that on Toonzai as well I believe.
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Post by SRB2Unleashed » Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:45 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYKwwVR8NNg

My mock-up of a Nicktoons version of the 2nd ending. I understand why the probably don't show the 2nd ending, as it would be hard to have the transitions edited to a 30 second version. Also I wonder how they're gonna handle the SSJ2 scene. Edit out 16's blood or just cut Cell crushing his head completely, and when he actually transforms, the quick shot of 16's crush head might be replaced with another reaction shot
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Post by kei17 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:32 am

DB_Fan1991 wrote:Episode 35 is airing now, and there is no retroactive uncensoring, but what is new is the Kikuchi music mix. It is not the same mix that Toonzai used, so after Goku & Ginyu change back into their own bodies Baby Gohan's theme does not play.
Can you tell me specifically what piece they used?

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:59 am

kei17 wrote:
DB_Fan1991 wrote:Episode 35 is airing now, and there is no retroactive uncensoring, but what is new is the Kikuchi music mix. It is not the same mix that Toonzai used, so after Goku & Ginyu change back into their own bodies Baby Gohan's theme does not play.
Can you tell me specifically what piece they used?
If I remember right, no music played in that scene on Nicktoons.
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Post by kei17 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:05 am

DB_Fan1991 wrote:
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DB_Fan1991 wrote:Episode 35 is airing now, and there is no retroactive uncensoring, but what is new is the Kikuchi music mix. It is not the same mix that Toonzai used, so after Goku & Ginyu change back into their own bodies Baby Gohan's theme does not play.
Can you tell me specifically what piece they used?
If I remember right, no music played in that scene on Nicktoons.
The scene where Piccolo dies had no music on Nicktoons (Yamamoto version) as well. Maybe they're just some editing errors.

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:18 pm

Episode 36 also has a different music mix than Toonzai does. The music in [=http://youtu.be/nH3UbQ07jSQ]this video[/url] is different on Nicktoons. Not sure what replaced the first piece, but the second one was replaced with what kenisu calls Horns And Drums. Also no retroactive uncensoring, so I'm guessing they also snuck uncut lines into the first 24 episodes
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Post by kei17 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:38 am

While watching episode 77, I noticed that the 4:3 master they use didn't have one redrawn scene that exists in the 16:9 version.

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DB_Fan1991 wrote:Episode 36 also has a different music mix than Toonzai does. The music in this video is different on Nicktoons. Not sure what replaced the first piece, but the second one was replaced with what kenisu calls Horns And Drums. Also no retroactive uncensoring, so I'm guessing they also snuck uncut lines into the first 24 episodes
They seem to be getting rid of every piece which is from DBZ movie 3 and 12 recently. For example, in the scene where Gohan wails over Goku's death, M1023 played on Kansai TV first, but they replaced it by M1623 after that. Maybe some kind of copyright/budget problem is there.

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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:45 pm

kei17 wrote:While watching episode 77, I noticed that the 4:3 master they use didn't have one redrawn scene that exists in the 16:9 version.

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:O That's... unexpected!!

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:19 pm

Hmm, interesting. After reading that article on Kanzentai.com about the remastering of Kai. It seems the re-drawn shots were done after the remastering.

This probably means each re-drawn shot has a corresponding non re-drawn shot. I didn't think they would still have them though. I Just figured they were tossed away since they were being replaced with new shots. Why keep them? And why use one now? Does that mean when they sent this series to FUNimation, they gave them the non-redrawn shots too?! :shock:

I could think of a few places they could get rid of those re-drawn shots. :lol:

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:54 pm

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Why would you pull this off the Nicktoons airing? I haven't seen a redrawn scene be edited I guess I missed it, but, why would they use that shot a the only time they don't use a redrawn scene? I call shenanigans.
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Re: DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

Post by MetalMadness » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:59 pm

I think it is because originally that scene was redrawn to extend the frame, because Kai's broadcast was 16:9, but because the Nicktoons broadcast is 4:3, there was no need to extend the frame since it showed all of the original image.

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Post by Kendamu » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:18 pm

MetalMadness wrote:I think it is because originally that scene was redrawn to extend the frame, because Kai's broadcast was 16:9, but because the Nicktoons broadcast is 4:3, there was no need to extend the frame since it showed all of the original image.
That's exactly what I was going to say. I'm sure that if we looked carefully we could find other instances of new drawings in 16:9 and old drawings in 4:3 when it was done to overcome the issue of cropping* for the TV release.



*I almost accidentally typed that as "crapping" instead of "cropping." LOL!

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