FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[DMaarten]

It also looks like we'll get rid of the pink skin somewhat



Bases on the trailer, it looks GOOD!

But still keeping my fingers crossed

[jjgp1112]

That's a really misleading comparison.

[DMaarten]

Why? Because of the framing?

[jjgp1112]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

[ect5150]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

If it was an HD shot, I'd agree - but it does show the color differences just fine. I think I might pick up the first two sets, then wait for the "full levels" to come out -- maybe.

It does look like a few of those shots maybe grainy (the greyed out shot of Goku falling backwards has a bit of grain in it). But we can post shots when the disc comes in the mail soon enough (if you have a BD player on your PC). I know I'll try to get some up. Plus, I want to look for the film damage - to see some of the OLD orange brick shots we used to take and compare them to the new footage. That will be interesting.

[SSJMan]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

there is no evidence that, that is the case. You dont know that. I'm sick of hearing peoples theorys being told as facts.

[jjgp1112]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

there is no evidence that, that is the case. You dont know that. I'm sick of hearing peoples theorys being told as facts.

Except for the fact that the first part is clearly from the Dragon box opening with credits, which would make it 16mm, while the creditless version is 35mm. So uh...yeah.

[Paradox295]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

there is no evidence that, that is the case. You dont know that. I'm sick of hearing peoples theorys being told as facts.

Dude, quit trolling.

[SSJMan]

That, and it's comparing 16mm film to 35 mm film.

there is no evidence that, that is the case. You dont know that. I'm sick of hearing peoples theorys being told as facts.

Except for the fact that the first part is clearly from the Dragon box opening with credits, which would make it 16mm, while the creditless version is 35mm. So uh...yeah.

All the films are credit-less. The original opening film doses not contain them. If you take a look at the pictures of Funimation's 16m film opening you will notice that there are no credits on it. I don't know where the photos are. Can someone who has them post them up? Thank you. I only have this one.



However, I've seen pictures of them where it would have had credits on them, (and/yet) doesn't. Additionally, I'm not trolling. I would rather hear facts than (simply? false?) claims.

[jjgp1112]

The first half of the image is from the Dragon Box...which does have credits. And is 16mm. The original creditless openings are 35mm, as they have to be used for the movies as well.

[Metalwario64]

I know someone's gonna yell at me for this, but I've put together a comparison a few shots from the trailer against the Dragon Box footage. Just so we're clear, these aren't quality comparisons, only color comparisons:

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Blu-Ray:

^Now this one's weird. This comparison and the one above were both from the same episode, and yet this shot here on the Blu-Ray trailer looks exactly like the Dragon Box! Even the framing is exactly the same! I highly doubt that random scene in their masters happens to have the Dragon Box colors, while the rest of the episode doesn't, so this must have been an error and they accidentally used the Dragon Box footage for this shot.

Dragon Box:


Blu-Ray:


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I dunno. I know these are compressed trailers and all, but they can't be too far off from the actual footage can they? The shot which is surely a mistakenly used Dragon Box shot's colors look nearly identical to FUNimation's Dragon Boxes, so I'd say these are fair color comparisons. If these actually are any indication of the Blu-ray's colors, then I think I still like the Dragon Boxes colors more. These look far too desaturated and pale, as well as very inconsistent.

[MoltenMan]

Those are pretty cool. The Goku/Radtiz photo, I can tell Goku's face in the Blu-Ray picture isn't as pink as the Dragon Box photo. The shades on him and Raditz look a hair darker too.

[SSJMan]

No more pink Eye

[JulieYBM]

I'm not sure if this is an artifact of the trailer being compressed, but the Blu-ray footage looks pretty...smudged.

[Paradox295]

there is no evidence that, that is the case. You dont know that. I'm sick of hearing peoples theorys being told as facts.

Except for the fact that the first part is clearly from the Dragon box opening with credits, which would make it 16mm, while the creditless version is 35mm. So uh...yeah.

All the films are credit-less. The original opening film does not contain them. If you take a look at the pictures of Funimation's 16m film opening you will notice that there are no credits on it. I don't know where the photos are. Can someone who has them post them up? Thank you. I only have this one.



However, I've seen pictures of them where it would have had credits on them, (and/yet) doesn't. Additionally, I'm not trolling. I would rather hear facts than (simply? false?) claims.

^missed that one there, Mike.

If all the films are creditless, then why do the Dboxes have them? When they're sourced from the original prints?

[dragonpiece]

When you are comparing it like that, the Blu Rays look like crap. At least too me...

[SSJMan]

Well its called overlaying credits on top of the film. so they could change it latter if they needed. It is a common practice. But the original idea is that they are using 35mm film instead of 16 to compare. and prof of that is no text does not make much sense considering the 35mm has permanent credits because it was intended for theatrical release. here is Funimations the 35mm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHnfX1RmZX8 (Funimations 35mm has credits) I have no doubt that they are comparing it to 16mm.

[jjgp1112]

But...you're not getting it. The "original" shot is quite obviously from the Dragon Box version of the intro...WHICH IS 16MM. The original print of the intro is 35mm and for the show, has text overlayed onto it and copied to 16mm film. For the movies it's the same thing...but 35mm. That's why the intros on the movies and specials look FAR better than the intros in the actual show.

[SSJMan]

But...you're not getting it. The "original" shot is quite obviously from the Dragon Box version of the intro...WHICH IS 16MM. The original print of the intro is 35mm and for the show, has text overlayed onto it and copied to 16mm film. For the movies it's the same thing...but 35mm. That's why the intros on the movies and specials look FAR better than the intros in the actual show.

You don't know what overlaying credits is and that's ok. Your argument dose not make sense for the main reason that 35mm has credits. However, beyond that, Funimation's movie copies are not original, so they could not have the original overlay.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

After seeing the screenshots of Goku vs. Vegeta in Blu-Ray, I think I now understand why Funimation said they are the "original film" with "director approved color schemes." If you look back in Kei's thread about DBZ's original broadcast that was recorded off the tape, you will see the similarity between of them. If that's the case, then that's pretty nice.

Maybe that's how Funimation's multi-generational copies look when you leave the colors alone.