Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
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I think we'll be seeing Hanasia die now.
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I don't see any msitakes there...TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I love how ALL the Oozaru seem to magically retain their sense of self and head straight for Freeza's ship, instead of going berserk on each other or the landscape.
That, and this is apparently going to be a space battle... -_-
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EDIT: Oh, and Oozaru Bardock is missing an ear in the 3rd panel...
Saiyans clearly can control themselves while on Oozaru form, except for strayed ones who never had the training to do so, namely Goku and Gohan..
"Hahaaaaaa, eat my dust, Piccolo!"
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The TV special this special is based on didn't have all Saiyans capable of controlling themselves. Bardock's teammates have a conversation about it the morning after having killed off the Kanassians.Gohaz wrote: I don't see any msitakes there...
Saiyans clearly can control themselves while on Oozaru form, except for strayed ones who never had the training to do so, namely Goku and Gohan..
I don't recall, if Salagir changed that conversation in this special.
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They might be left with the instinct to not attack their own people. So if the only thing around them that isn't another Saiyan is Freeza's ship, it's not too far a stretch to figure they'd all zero in on that.
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...in the dub. That conversation doesn't exist in the Japanese version.dbgtFO wrote:The TV special this special is based on didn't have all Saiyans capable of controlling themselves. Bardock's teammates have a conversation about it the morning after having killed off the Kanassians.Gohaz wrote: I don't see any msitakes there...
Saiyans clearly can control themselves while on Oozaru form, except for strayed ones who never had the training to do so, namely Goku and Gohan..
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I'm not saying that all of them retaining their reason is a mistake, I just don't buy it.
The series and guides say that those unaccustomed to the form are overwhelmed by the power and it consumes their reason. In the original history, none of the Saiyans apparently even knew the Power Ball yet, because they had to wait 8 years for a full moon so that they could wipe out the Tsufruians. This special should take place about 7 years after that war, meaning the full moon hasn't come back around. That means the only ways to train in the Oozaru form is to either visit other planets during a full moon, or to train with someone who knows the Power Ball (and who knows how long that took to develop and then teach to others), with the latter option being extremely dangerous and time consuming.
I just don't find it logical that practically EVERY Saiyan knows how to control the form... Even If it is just instinct, just like with other people and animals, not everyone is as smart or observant as everyone else. You’d think that at least some of them would start shooting ki blasts out of their mouths into space or at the rocks, pick things up and smash them or rampage a little bit. Instead, all of them immediately look up into the sky and charge Freeza’s ship in a relatively calm manner. Bah.
The series and guides say that those unaccustomed to the form are overwhelmed by the power and it consumes their reason. In the original history, none of the Saiyans apparently even knew the Power Ball yet, because they had to wait 8 years for a full moon so that they could wipe out the Tsufruians. This special should take place about 7 years after that war, meaning the full moon hasn't come back around. That means the only ways to train in the Oozaru form is to either visit other planets during a full moon, or to train with someone who knows the Power Ball (and who knows how long that took to develop and then teach to others), with the latter option being extremely dangerous and time consuming.
I just don't find it logical that practically EVERY Saiyan knows how to control the form... Even If it is just instinct, just like with other people and animals, not everyone is as smart or observant as everyone else. You’d think that at least some of them would start shooting ki blasts out of their mouths into space or at the rocks, pick things up and smash them or rampage a little bit. Instead, all of them immediately look up into the sky and charge Freeza’s ship in a relatively calm manner. Bah.
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What kind of moon takes eight freakin' years to orbit its planet.
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I always assumed that the necessay planetary line up that causes a full moon just happenes once every few years.
Or maybe it has something to do with the planets gravity? Eitherway, it's pretty convenient for them. Having a full moon once every 30 days on a planet full of saiyans might be bothersome even for the saiyans.
Or maybe it has something to do with the planets gravity? Eitherway, it's pretty convenient for them. Having a full moon once every 30 days on a planet full of saiyans might be bothersome even for the saiyans.
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Bull. The necessary line up is:Michsi wrote:I always assumed that the necessay planetary line up that causes a full moon just happenes once every few years.
Sun - Planet - Moon
Planet Vegeta's superhigh gravity means things orbiting it would move faster.Or maybe it has something to do with the planets gravity?
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More importantly, why in the world does a population that can easily fly across a planet even need to wait for it to cycle?Rocketman wrote:What kind of moon takes eight freakin' years to orbit its planet.
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Because the whole planet sees the moon in the same phase.TonyTheTiger wrote: More importantly, why in the world does a population that can easily fly across a planet even need to wait for it to cycle?
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Heh. Brain fart. I forgot about the whole "full" part.Rocketman wrote:Because the whole planet sees the moon in the same phase.TonyTheTiger wrote: More importantly, why in the world does a population that can easily fly across a planet even need to wait for it to cycle?
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Frieza kills them all, except Bardock, who becomes a SSJ and kills a weaken, battle-worn Frieza.
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We know that it's Raichi who wipes out the Saiyans in U3 so Freeza will probably lose pretty handily here.
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I know that. What I'm saying it that for it there to be a line up where the planet is right between the sun and the moon, might be a rare occurance. There's weirder things out there.Bull. The necessary line up is:
Sun - Planet - Moon
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The moon orbits the planet. The line-up occurs once every time the moon goes around, unless the moon orbits at a high inclination, in which case the planet will never get a full moon.Michsi wrote:I know that. What I'm saying it that for it there to be a line up where the planet is right between the sun and the moon, might be a rare occurance. There's weirder things out there.
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I remember reading something about irregular moons/satelights once, though I can't remember if that meant that they don't orbit the planet in a set pattern or not.Rocketman wrote:The moon orbits the planet. The line-up occurs once every time the moon goes around, unless the moon orbits at a high inclination, in which case the planet will never get a full moon.Michsi wrote:I know that. What I'm saying it that for it there to be a line up where the planet is right between the sun and the moon, might be a rare occurance. There's weirder things out there.
But even without that, it takes Calisto about 17 days to orbit Jupiter. In this case, that would mean a full moon happened once every 510 days. That's more than a year. And we are talking about earth years. Who know what a year meant on Vegeta. A namekian only as 130 (?) days.
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I'm still pretty sure a few will die then, giving Bardock his "rage trigger". Maybe after that, the remaining saiyans will fall in line and properly accept him as their leader.TonyTheTiger wrote:We know that it's Raichi who wipes out the Saiyans in U3 so Freeza will probably lose pretty handily here.
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DammitPuto wrote:...in the dub. That conversation doesn't exist in the Japanese version.dbgtFO wrote: The TV special this special is based on didn't have all Saiyans capable of controlling themselves. Bardock's teammates have a conversation about it the morning after having killed off the Kanassians.
I guess I am not that familiar with the Bardock Special as I am with the main story.
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I'm not sure where the 510 days came from. A Full Callisto happens every 17 days, which proves what I said earlier. Callisto is over 1.1 million miles from Jupiter (the Moon is 240,000 miles from Earth), yet because Jupiter's gravity is so much stronger, Callisto whips around its orbit in nearly half the time our Moon takes.Michsi wrote:But even without that, it takes Calisto about 17 days to orbit Jupiter. In this case, that would mean a full moon happened once every 510 days. That's more than a year.
Jupiter's moon Io is 260,000 miles from the planet, and it completes its orbit every 1.8 days. Planet Vegeta's gravity is five times stronger than Jupiter's.





