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by SSJMan » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:28 pm
MarcFBR wrote:SSJMan wrote:Ashura wrote:SSJMan.
To get to the point of the conversation and their original question...
If you were authoring this set on 3 disks following spec, how would you author the disks differently than Funimation did?
I think that's all you would really need to answer to move forward from here.
And I did. But MarcFBR always has something to say.
1440x1080 at 4:3 with AAC audio is not part of the spec. Ashura was quite clear. Following spec.
There is a difference between the specs and what just is not done. It is a part of the specs, just not done to often, and it should be.
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by MarcFBR » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:35 pm
SSJMan wrote:There is a difference between the specs and what just is not done. It is a part of the specs, just not done to often, and it should be.
This is my last post, so MarcFBR you may have the last word on this one.

Since you've said you are leaving plenty of other times, I'll go ahead and continue.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downl ... -17830.pdf
Page 17 and 18
No mention of 1440x1080 in 4:3 and no mention of AAC.
In case you want to argue with THAT, it's the specifications white paper that was updated last year.
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by Ashura » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:39 pm
SSJMan wrote:There is a difference between the specs and what just is not done. It is a part of the specs, just not done to often, and it should be.
This is my last post, so MarcFBR you may have the last word on this one.

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downl ... 110712.pdf
These are the whitepapers for Blu-Ray, updated in July of this year. Page 14 outlines the acceptable video resolution and aspect ratio formats.
Note that 1440x1080 is only acceptable for 16x9, not 4x3.
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by MarcFBR » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:46 pm
Thanks Ashura, I thought April 2010 was the latest full paper. I know there had been some minor update ones later in 2010 (and maybe early in 2011), but I didn't realize there was a new full one.
And SSJMan thought I couldn't admit I was wrong... I was in the case of believing that April 2010 was the last full whitepaper about BD specs. Still right about the BD spec though.
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by mikezilla2 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:11 am
how much were the two pack Kai sets when they launched ? cause they don't seem that affordable compared with the singles more or the same price I'm thinking

(based on amazons pricing)
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by Ashura » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:34 am
Marc: Haha, we had the same idea.

And yeah, I don't think things like resolutions are going to change between the docs very much.
I also got my disk yesterday, and it looks really good. I don't see the need to re-encode it. Once in a while the grain might feel a little blocky, but I think it's not going to look much better spread out onto more disks to be frank.
Mike: Did you accidentally reply to the wrong thread?
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by mikezilla2 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:51 am
sorry nah i got the right thread , i recall castor troy saying in the db box thread that he would wait till they started releasing double packs , Kai has at least one of those so far but it dos not appear to be much cheaper ... was just wondering if they were cheaper at any point
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by DanielGClapp » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:57 am
mikezilla2 wrote:sorry nah i got the right thread , i recall castor troy saying in the db box thread that he would wait till they started releasing double packs , Kai has at least one of those so far but it dos not appear to be much cheaper ... was just wondering if they were cheaper at any point
Walmart has the double sets for Kai if that's what you were looking for. They're like 25 dollars.
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by mikezilla2 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:16 am
places that ship overseas ? i don't want to buy those sets but if the availability of such sets with those prices is a continuing trend then there might not be a pay off for overseas buyers.
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by MarcFBR » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:18 am
Ashura wrote:Marc: Haha, we had the same idea.

And yeah, I don't think things like resolutions are going to change between the docs very much.
I also got my disk yesterday, and it looks really good. I don't see the need to re-encode it. Once in a while the grain might feel a little blocky, but I think it's not going to look much better spread out onto mode disks to be frank.
That's the other question I had, but since you've now gotten the disk you've pseudo answered the question... but to double check.
He claimed there was macroblocking that was apparently quite noticeable while watching. Would it be correct to assume he is mistaking larger 'grain blobs' for macroblocking and there isn't in fact any such macroblocking that would be affected by pumping up the bitrate a bit more?
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by coola » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:56 pm
Anyone who own this set, could you tell please, if it have dubtitles?
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by AgitoZ » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:00 pm
coola wrote:Anyone who own this set, could you tell please, if it have dubtitles?
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say no. If only because we haven't had them for a
long while.
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by Levlik » Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:27 pm
And you're right; no dubtitles to be found here.
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by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:12 am
So, do we have any legitimate screenshots to compare yet?
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by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:50 am
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:So, do we have any legitimate screenshots to compare yet?
Here's 20.
Also, could someone get a cap of this? I'm not sure of the episode.

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by jpdbzrulz4sure » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:03 am
No.
Nope.
Or will it most likely be this one(I couldn't find the English version but i don't like this outro unless I'm watching my Dragonbox I prefer the 1st and 2nd ending above)?
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Yes.
Yep.
Nuh-uh.
That's really my favorite Intro. And if these are not included could you explain why not? Thanks

Because FUNi likes to keep everything on a single video track nowadays, and they can't include that opening unless they either utilize video branching (which is a pain in the butt to implement, form what I've heard) or completely sacrifice the Japanese opening. Marc can explain the technical issues involved.
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by samuraix123 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:10 am
I sure wished to God somebody could explain this shit man. If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits. Damn man that shoots the hell out of the nostalgic factor

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by Bussani » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:58 am
samuraix123 wrote:If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits.
Wouldn't they then have an opening video that the Japanese audio wouldn't fit to? Since they're not using seamless branching.
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by AgitoZ » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:17 pm
samuraix123 wrote:I sure wished to God somebody could explain this shit man. If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits. Damn man that shoots the hell out of the nostalgic factor

Maybe because it isn't the "original" English dub?
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