Michsi wrote: Besides, why would you assume that no.17 has no techniques?
Because we haven't seen him use any so it's at most a speculation based on nothing really.
Saying he has no special techniques is also "speculation based on nothing".
Michsi wrote:He had good hand to hand combat skills, but nothing says he had other tricks up his sleeve, otherwise we would have probably seen them.
That's a fallacy. If no.17 didn't used any technique it was because the battle was significantly short and they fought hand-to-hand most of time.
- Numbers of techniques used by no.17: 1 (Barrier)
- Numbers of techniques used by Piccolo: 1 (Chou Bakuretsu-Maha)
Michsi wrote:17 used an energy shield to protect himself against Piccolo's Hellzone Grenade but chose to dodge the Bakuretsu-Maha, which could most likely mean it would have done some serious damage, shield or no shield.
He could simply choose to avoid it instead of using the Barrier. Or the Barrier take some time to charge. Perhaps the Barrier is not strong enough. We can't tell for sure.
You can't predict a battle based on a single technique. No.17 could still avoid it (he was in the line of fire behind Cell and still dodged it). We can't tell either that the technique would have killed no.17, considering the durability the androids have.
Michsi wrote:And yes, Piccolo looks determined though more worn out, but we know he had enough energy left for what was probably his strongest attack in the series. AND he still said 17's hits were not that impressive.
He says that no.17 has a good speed but his punches lack weight. This is a note about no.17 fighting skill, not his overall strength.
