What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Discussion regarding any musical aspect of the franchise, from game soundtracks to BGM to remixes. Upcoming & classic CDs, reviews, where to find them, and more!

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:16 am

If that was the case then a lot more Z-Tards(Of the English Funimation dub) would like Kai because of the music. Wouldn't that be swell? That would also mean the fanbase would be better wouldn't it? And the 'Japanese' fans would have their Dragon Boxes and Kikuchi/Yamamoto. What do you think about that scenario?
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
jpdbzrulz4sure
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 967
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:13 am
Location: Lynnwood, Washington, USA
Contact:

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:21 am

I am absolutely against FUNi repeating such past stupidity.

Of course, even if FUNi had used Faulconer Productions' score in Kai, there's still a lot for the Z-dubbies to bitch and whine about, such as the recasts, the more accurate-to-the-original and different-from-what-they're-used-to scripts, not to mention the fact that many believe FUNi was responsible for removing the filler material and complain about that.
Last edited by jpdbzrulz4sure on Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
-Joey

kei17
I Live Here
Posts: 4142
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:23 am

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by kei17 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:34 am

It would have been interesting if Toei had hired Faulconer from the beginning, but FUNi hiring him again for the replacement score isn't a good idea.

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:43 am

kei17 wrote:It would have been interesting if Toei had hired Faulconer from the beginning, but FUNi hiring him again for the replacement score isn't a good idea.
So you're saying this would be the intro?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyfR5CkVFQ

This would be the episode closing theme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsqyxwvBGw

You're right that would be damn interesting.
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:51 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:I am absolutely against FUNi repeating such past stupidity.

Of course, even if FUNi had used Faulconer Productions' score in Kai, there's still a lot for the Z-dubbies to bitch and whine about, such as the recasts, the more accurate-to-the-original and different-from-what-they're-used-to scripts, not to mention the fact that many believe FUNi was responsible for removing the filler material and complain about that.
Stupid to you, but to others no. Bruce Faulconer is the most popular DBZ composer(fact) and he is the reason so many people tuned into DBZ back in the day. The voices maybe an issue BUT the music is their main source of entertainment. In fact I grew up with the Japanese dub and for a long time I preferred Bruce Faulconer to Kikuchi. Only recently have I realised Kikuchi was better, but at times I still think Bruce has better songs. Anyway this isn't about me, it's about the fanboys(I am not a fanboy BTW.) Okay maybe I am a fanboy, but I realised all the versions I like have big flaws.
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
jpdbzrulz4sure
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 967
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:13 am
Location: Lynnwood, Washington, USA
Contact:

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:08 am

UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Stupid to you, but to others no. Bruce Faulconer is the most popular DBZ composer(fact) and he is the reason so many people tuned into DBZ back in the day.
Hardly. As far as I'm concerned, the reason most people tuned in back in the day was because it was a "cool action show", nothing more. The show was popular on Toonami even before Faulconer Productions' music came into the picture. The majority of those who like Faulconer's music only do so out of a nostalgia bias.

By the way, you don't need to double-post in order to respond to other users' posts. When you're already quoting one person, just scroll down and all posts in the thread will appear, with a quote button on each one. Watch this:
UnbiasedDBZfan wrote: Stupid to you, but to others no. Bruce Faulconer is the most popular DBZ composer(fact) and he is the reason so many people tuned into DBZ back in the day. The voices maybe an issue BUT the music is their main source of entertainment. In fact I grew up with the Japanese dub and for a long time I preferred Bruce Faulconer to Kikuchi. Only recently have I realised Kikuchi was better, but at times I still think Bruce has better songs. Anyway this isn't about me, it's about the fanboys(I am not a fanboy BTW.) Okay maybe I am a fanboy, but I realised all the versions I like have big flaws.
kei17 wrote:It would have been interesting if Toei had hired Faulconer from the beginning, but FUNi hiring him again for the replacement score isn't a good idea.
See?
-Joey

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:15 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Stupid to you, but to others no. Bruce Faulconer is the most popular DBZ composer(fact) and he is the reason so many people tuned into DBZ back in the day.
Hardly. As far as I'm concerned, the reason most people tuned in back in the day was because it was a "cool action show", nothing more. The show was popular on Toonami even before Faulconer Productions' music came into the picture. The majority of those who like Faulconer's music only do so out of a nostalgia bias.

By the way, you don't need to double-post in order to respond to other users' posts. When you're already quoting one person, just scroll down and all posts in the thread will appear, with a quote button on each one. Watch this:
UnbiasedDBZfan wrote: Stupid to you, but to others no. Bruce Faulconer is the most popular DBZ composer(fact) and he is the reason so many people tuned into DBZ back in the day. The voices maybe an issue BUT the music is their main source of entertainment. In fact I grew up with the Japanese dub and for a long time I preferred Bruce Faulconer to Kikuchi. Only recently have I realised Kikuchi was better, but at times I still think Bruce has better songs. Anyway this isn't about me, it's about the fanboys(I am not a fanboy BTW.) Okay maybe I am a fanboy, but I realised all the versions I like have big flaws.
kei17 wrote:It would have been interesting if Toei had hired Faulconer from the beginning, but FUNi hiring him again for the replacement score isn't a good idea.
See?
The DBZ with the Faulconer score was/still is more popular then the DBZ without the score(I.e The pre in house dub). Fact. Nostalgia? By the statement you made I could just say loads of people like Kikuchi due to the same reason but I don't.
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
jpdbzrulz4sure
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 967
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:13 am
Location: Lynnwood, Washington, USA
Contact:

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:29 am

UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:The DBZ with the Faulconer score was/still is more popular then the DBZ without the score (i.e. The pre in house dub). Fact. Nostalgia? By the statement you made I could just say loads of people like Kikuchi due to the same reason but I don't.
The majority don't even know the difference. The only ones who know or care about either score are nerds on the internet, like us, and we're in the minority.

You know what, the "dub music vs. Japanese music" debate has been discussed to death many times already, so I'm done. But before I go, there's one thing I should've said in my previous post. When quoting posts, I'd just quote the part that's relevant to what I want to say, rather than the whole damn thing.

That's all. G'bye! :)

EDIT: And as of this post, I'm now a regular! :D
Last edited by jpdbzrulz4sure on Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:43 am, edited 3 times in total.
-Joey

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:40 am

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:The DBZ with the Faulconer score was/still is more popular then the DBZ without the score (i.e. The pre in house dub). Fact. Nostalgia? By the statement you made I could just say loads of people like Kikuchi due to the same reason but I don't.
The majority don't even know the difference. The only ones who know or care about either score are nerds on the internet, like us, and we're in the minority.

You know what, the "dub music vs. Japanese music" debate has been discussed to death many times already, so I'm done. G'bye! :)

EDIT: And as of this post, I'm now a regular! :D
Sayonara!
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
VegettoEX
Kanzenshuu Co-Owner & Administrator
Posts: 17736
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:10 pm
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:18 am

Again, I don't understand why you need to go and keep making posts to actively antagonize people about music. It's constant. It's all you're doing. Literally the only thing you're doing here.

You're spouting out insults ("Z-tards"? Who even says that?) and tossing out random thoughts as facts (Faulconer is the most popular composer? I thought you were Japanese? How do you not have a worldwide perspective on this?), and the tiny text is obnoxious beyond belief.

Enough is enough. If you're not looking to have a legitimate conversation, please find another forum to post on.
:: [| Mike "VegettoEX" LaBrie |] ::
:: [| Kanzenshuu - Co-Founder/Administrator, Podcast Host, News Manager (note: our "job" titles are arbitrary and meaningless) |] ::
:: [| Website: January 1998 |] :: [| Podcast: November 2005 |] :: [| Fusion: April 2012 |] :: [| Wiki: 20XX |] ::

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:00 am

VegettoEX wrote:Again, I don't understand why you need to go and keep making posts to actively antagonize people about music. It's constant. It's all you're doing. Literally the only thing you're doing here.

You're spouting out insults ("Z-tards"? Who even says that?) and tossing out random thoughts as facts (Faulconer is the most popular composer? I thought you were Japanese? How do you not have a worldwide perspective on this?), and the tiny text is obnoxious beyond belief.

Enough is enough. If you're not looking to have a legitimate conversation, please find another forum to post on.
Last edited by UnbiasedDBZfan on Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:17 am

Are those YouTube comments? You are using as proof YouTube comments? ARE YOU SERIOUS?! :|
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
UnbiasedDBZfan
Banned
Posts: 286
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:37 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are those YouTube comments? You are using as proof YouTube comments? ARE YOU SERIOUS?! :|
Of course I'm serious! :x
Has anyone seen my arm? You can't miss it, it's GREEEEENNNN!! HAHAHHAHAHA!! Funi dub Raditz
'Let's hold off on the trophy Majin Boo!' Brad Swaile as Teen Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/ My channel RenewedTenjin.

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:53 am

UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Are those YouTube comments? You are using as proof YouTube comments? ARE YOU SERIOUS?! :|
Of course I'm serious! :x
Well, that's sad.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
Gogeta8001
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 123
Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:32 pm

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by Gogeta8001 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:56 am

I guess BF's score would go well with some scenes.

Either way, Faluconer hate's Funimation now. He's still bitter about Funi choosing Mark Menza over him to do the score for GT.

Codarik
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1030
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:20 am
Location: Snake Way

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by Codarik » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:31 pm

Not sure about using Faulconer but after the Yamamoto scandal, I would of loved FUNi for coming up with an original soundtrack, I rather hear a brand new replacement score than Kikuchi in Kai anyday.

User avatar
Zarathustra
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 128
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:37 pm
Location: Over The Hills

Re: What if Funimation used BF for Kai instead of Yamamoto?

Post by Zarathustra » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:36 pm

I would have loved Kai with a Faulconer score, especially since the series didn't even up using its intended score.

A new Faulconer score would have been way too much to ask for, but it would have definitely made me buy the series on DVD.


Post Reply