New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball GT

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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by cRookie_Monster » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:19 pm

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cRookie_Monster wrote:Nice job!! :)
Thanks, Scott!

During the interview I mentioned your name while we were talking about Bruce Faulconer. He said he hadn't heard your name before, but he did know Mike Smith. Mike had come by his studio looking to be hired as an assistant after his days with Bruce came to an end. Mark felt he was still a little bit green, and didn't have the budget at the time anyway. But he said he was "a super nice guy."

I'm not sure if I'll include that bit in Part 2 of the interview, so I just thought I'd tell you directly.
Cool, yeah Mike told me about the visit to Menza's studio. The source of the "Funi told Menza not to listen to the Faulconer score" thing was Mike. He had told me Menza said that during that visit. But whatever ^^

I need to hook up with Mike again...he's been through a divorce and has disappeared from Facebook almost completely. I feel guilty though when I talk to him, cause I come from an era of his life that I think he just wants to forget.

Oh and yes, Mike is suupper nice. Great guy.

one last "oh and..." Menza wouldn't have heard of me. I would've just been some meaningless name in the old credits to him. We've never met or talked.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by monkeydlogan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:19 pm

Wow, Mark graduated from Fredonia State huh?
That's nuts because I'm from the Dunkirk/Fredonia area.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by DerekPadula » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:45 pm

Want to discover the origins of the Dragon Ball GT rap intro?

Part 2 is Up!

http://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/inte ... ew-part-2/

It's a long interview, packed with juicy info and opinions. Check it out now!
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by Attitudefan » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:31 pm

Just one thing that should be fixed up: Bruce did not score all 291 DBZ episodes.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by Codarik » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:40 am

Fantastic interview, now all we need is an interview from Nathan Johnson, I would love to hear an interview from him, since he is my favorite composer and all.

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Post by GS7X7 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:09 am

I was always Menza's biggest critic in the past. I feel kind of bad because, while his music really wasn't the best for GT, he was ultimately just producing what Funimation requested of him.
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Post by Gonstead » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:31 am

A great interview. Thanks a whole bunch!

And as said before, now all we need is an interview with Nathan Johnson since I absolutely enjoyed his Fusion Reborn soundtrack and parts from the first 67 episodes of DBZ.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by DerekPadula » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:38 am

Attitudefan wrote:Just one thing that should be fixed up: Bruce did not score all 291 DBZ episodes.
Right, sorry. I did a search on it and see that Nathan Johnson did The Ultimate Uncut editions.

I have to admit my knowledge of the American music is a little lacking because it was in 2003 that I basically switched over to exclusively watching the Japanese.

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EDIT: Ah, I see you've looked it up.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by Mario » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:57 am

I searched almost everywhere and no one knows the songs or even discuss about those songs..the songs are from history of Trunks and first song starts when Androids leave town and Trunks arrives,,after song is gone Gohan arrives,,and when in dark Trunks trys to become ssj while Gohan motivates him with words,,,i would realy appriciate the songs name or yust artist...sry for bad english...

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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:10 pm

About the album, if it was produced like a Limited Edition, 10,000 copies it'd probably sell well if set with such restriction, and DB Limited stuff tends to sell pretty damn well.

I'd purchase a physical copy via Amazon.
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Post by xzero » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:40 pm

Excellent interview. Thank you for doing this and getting info for the fans, and thanks to Mark Menza (if he ever reads this) for agreeing to do it and for his very informative and enlightening answers. I definitely wish him all the best in his career.

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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by GS7X7 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:47 pm

It'd be cool if you could track down and interview the rap artist. He definitely didn't deserve all the bashing he got since the way the rap song turned out wasn't even his idea... :(
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Post by cRookie_Monster » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:03 pm

Yayyyy! Great interview :) It's so great to hear someone else confirm Mike's existence beside myself lol. I wish he'd friggin storm onto the scene with some new music.

And yeah, just like with us at Faulconer's studio, you see that being in the creative business is rough...making a product that you don't necessarily identify with. My biggest example is the giant metal stuff for Trunks...yeah I recorded it etc, but I was diametrically opposed to it being used. We had to satisfy the client.

Even the video game I scored later (Empires) had similar issues where I was writing stuff that I didn't really think was the best thing for the game...but I had to cater to the client.
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Post by DerekPadula » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:43 pm

cRookie_Monster wrote:Yayyyy! Great interview :) It's so great to hear someone else confirm Mike's existence beside myself lol. I wish he'd friggin storm onto the scene with some new music.

And yeah, just like with us at Faulconer's studio, you see that being in the creative business is rough...making a product that you don't necessarily identify with. My biggest example is the giant metal stuff for Trunks...yeah I recorded it etc, but I was diametrically opposed to it being used. We had to satisfy the client.

Even the video game I scored later (Empires) had similar issues where I was writing stuff that I didn't really think was the best thing for the game...but I had to cater to the client.
Glad you liked the interview! I was curious what you would think since you have such a unique perspective.

Who was the "client" at FUNimation at the time? Was it Barry Watson? Or was it that Bruce relayed everything to you guys, and you never had a chance to interact with the FUNimation staff directly?

I agree about the creative business side of things. As a freelance web developer, satisfying the client when they insist on horrible choices is very difficult to deal with. It completely saps my motivation and makes me want to stop the project altogether, basically because I lose my pride for the work.

Of course I'm cool with making adjustments and changes to please the client. Here I'm talking about things that go 100% against what you know is proper and correct. Know what I mean?

But of course I've learned since those encounters that I'm trading my expertise for money, and I should be unattached to the work. Therefore, if I really want to be super creative and have complete satisfaction, then I need to become financially successful with my own projects. That's the ultimate goal.

I can only imagine how many times you experienced similar frustration while working on the DBZ music.

The thing is, as a member of the audience watching DBZ at home, you have no idea that the music staff is working against their own conscience, so to speak. Same with Mark on GT.

And I think this is what leads to so much antagonism and outright hatred by the fans against the different types of music throughout the series. There are no explanations to the audience for the choices that are made, so there can be no understanding. This ignorance leads to frustration, which leads to hatred... which leads to the dark side. :)

It's only when you have interviews like this, where you see the humanity of the people behind the show, that you're finally able to gain understanding and let go of those previous notions. Then with this understanding you gain compassion, and perhaps even a little regret for the way you used to think.

Then at that point you change as a person. Maybe even feel a bit of redemption.

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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:13 pm

I completely agree with you. Love the interview too.
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Post by GS7X7 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:11 pm

I think the best example for new music is, "how would Japanese audiences have reacted if the Japanese dub of Star Wars had replaced the music?"

Regardless of how good the music is, there'll always be vociferous complaints because it's not the original that they consider to epitomize the show.
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Post by cRookie_Monster » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:39 am

Yeah man you've got the idea. The client I think we were both referring to was Funimation. Barry was the main guy making the decisions for Funi...so yeah could use those interchangeably. Bruce was my employer ^^ and yeah the communication thing was an issue sometimes, but with the Trunks thing I was complaining about...I think Mike, Bruce, and myself were of one mind. That "Destruction" piece was the 3rd attempt we made, and honestly I was being a little pissy about it, going wayyyyy over the top (they did ask for "beyond" belief" which is what it was originally called btw, not Destruction). Bruce agreed with my approach, it was the 3rd try after all..and we sent it along. I never heard another complaint about not being dark or heavy enough.
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Post by DerekPadula » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:02 am

I'm pretty much convinced at this point that Barry Watson is the reason American Dragon Ball Z is what it is. I'm hearing more and more about this guy being responsible for the decisions that most fans have found questionable. On the other hand, American DBZ was extremely financially successful, so I try to stay as objective as possible.

I just listened to the Destruction song on YouTube. Holy crap that was dark and heavy. If it had lyrics I'm sure it would have involved some type of horrible Satanic curse.

Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a bad piece of music from a technical / arrangement standpoint, but never in a million years would I associate this with an altruistic teenager from the future fighting for the hope of a brighter tomorrow. There's no shonen spirit to speak of. It sounds more like a Chaos Marine death march from Warhammer 40,000!

I can see why you had a hard time following his request.
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Re: New Interview with Mark Menza - Composer of Dragon Ball

Post by GS7X7 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:11 am

I know Barry Watson seems to have been in charge the most for the dub but, Gen Fukunaga and Cocanoughers had more power and could have overruled him at any moment.
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