He doesn't have to. To him it's better, that's why he prefers it.penguintruth wrote:It was never even explained WHY the dubbed version of the scene was preferred.
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If you can't explain your position, then it's not an opinion, it's a reaction.DarkPrince_92 wrote:He doesn't have to. To him it's better, that's why he prefers it.penguintruth wrote:It was never even explained WHY the dubbed version of the scene was preferred.
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If you can't explain your position, then it's not an opinion, it's a reaction.[/quote]penguintruth wrote:
That doesn't even make sense. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and there shouldn't be any need to defend it.
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No need to defend your opinion? Did you really just say that?Saiga wrote:Everybody is entitled to their opinion and there shouldn't be any need to defend it.
Oh boy. I'm just going to leave this one alone for now.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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Yes actually, I did just say that. There's nothing inherently wrong with having an opinion and so I should be able to voice it without needing to defend it.penguintruth wrote:No need to defend your opinion? Did you really just say that?Saiga wrote:Everybody is entitled to their opinion and there shouldn't be any need to defend it.
Oh boy. I'm just going to leave this one alone for now.
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Nicely put.Saiga wrote:There's nothing inherently wrong with having an opinion and so I should be able to voice it without needing to defend it.
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That's probably in your best interests. They are personal preferences for crying out loud. Do I need to have a reason for why I prefer apple pie to blackberry pie?penguintruth wrote:Saiga wrote:Oh boy. I'm just going to leave this one alone for now.
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Vegeta's death and speech in Kai.
Sabat has come a long way and this scene really shows how much. Chris Ayres Frieza is also spectacular and Sean Schemmel really does good as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExboWDMehRk
Sabat has come a long way and this scene really shows how much. Chris Ayres Frieza is also spectacular and Sean Schemmel really does good as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExboWDMehRk
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Woah, Sean Schemmel is really awesome there, I never realised the original Z dub ever had acting like that.Codarik wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSNPVv1k9b8
This scene completely blows the original into dust. The music, the acting, dialogue was perfect. IMO.
I hadn't seen this. I always kind of liked the Z dub of Vegeta's death, with "If there is a God he must be good for letting me live to see this day!" and the "He took me away from my father when I was just a little boy" speech, not to mention "He turned you into what he wanted you to be, you never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you". I know it's cheesy in places, but it's kind of more emotional. Now I've seen the Z Kai version, though, I think that's my favourite. If I had one wish it very well might be for an epic, faithful high-quality DB/Z remake, but if I had half a wish, maybe a redub of DB and Z by the Kai cast.Gonstead wrote:Vegeta's death and speech in Kai.
Sabat has come a long way and this scene really shows how much. Chris Ayres Freeza is also spectacular and Sean Schemmel really does good as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExboWDMehRk
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Kelamis is my favourite Gokuh, so any big fight scene of the first 3 Z movies (he's not really as good in the Ocean dub of the series). He captures Gokuh's goofy-ness perfectly in the first movie's fight against Ginger and Nikki, and he nails that Kaio-ken in the second movie..
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All of that completely contradicts Vegeta's character. Freeza never made him anything (except dead).Fizzer wrote:I hadn't seen this. I always kind of liked the Z dub of Vegeta's death, with "If there is a God he must be good for letting me live to see this day!" and the "He took me away from my father when I was just a little boy" speech, not to mention "He turned you into what he wanted you to be, you never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you". I know it's cheesy in places, but it's kind of more emotional.
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I feel like you're deliberately pissing him off.Saiga wrote:Yes actually, I did just say that. There's nothing inherently wrong with having an opinion and so I should be able to voice it without needing to defend it.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I'm not.DBZAOTA482 wrote:I feel like you're deliberately pissing him off.Saiga wrote:Yes actually, I did just say that. There's nothing inherently wrong with having an opinion and so I should be able to voice it without needing to defend it.
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Yeah, I know that's not like Vegeta, but I view the dub as a sort of separate continuity, because that's really the only way to enjoy any of it. Apart from the stuff about Freeza turning him into a monster it's all okay, and I think those parts still sound better.Metalwario64 wrote:All of that completely contradicts Vegeta's character. Freeza never made him anything (except dead).Fizzer wrote:I hadn't seen this. I always kind of liked the Z dub of Vegeta's death, with "If there is a God he must be good for letting me live to see this day!" and the "He took me away from my father when I was just a little boy" speech, not to mention "He turned you into what he wanted you to be, you never had a chance to be anything else. Well I still respect you". I know it's cheesy in places, but it's kind of more emotional.
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I think it was that scene where Gokuu's pleading to Vegeta to merge with him using the Potara in the FUNimation dub. I believe he said something about not letting their birthrights get in the way of saving the universe, and they're new Saiyans now, or something like that.
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One I remember is Freeza's henchmen having their hit and run with Trunks's sword. And it cuts to black. There are a few sword swipes. The original music there was pretty generic adventury stuff... not that I don't like that piece, but it felt generic in that moment. FUNimation actually did something quite out of character... and left it silent! All you could hear was the sword. It actually gave it a much bigger impact.
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How? I too think that if someone doesn't want to elaborate on an opinion, they have the right to say that.I feel like you're deliberately pissing him off.
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No, it's how he keeps throwing the opinion card whenever penguin throws a temper tantrum for him liking the "I Am" speech and that further ensues his temper tantrums. He could stop responding to the guy after the first reply and live it at that.Fionordequester wrote:How? I too think that if someone doesn't want to elaborate on an opinion, they have the right to say that.I feel like you're deliberately pissing him off.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Maybe. But I also think it's perfectly natural to try to justify yourself when someone expresses anger over what you say. Not always productive, but perfectly natural. So I don't think Saiga had any ill intent in what he posted.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
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Goku's SSJ transformation, mainly because of the theme that plays. It does a great job of reflecting the emotional state that Goku is in while also having an almost mystical vibe to it like it's almost telling you something special is about to happen. The rest of the song flows pretty well with the rest of the scene to.