Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 14; Still Unreleased

[Hades]

I think it would have been better to place the kikuchi replacement music along the same lines as the old DBZ placement

[dbboxkaifan]

Sorry guys but still no news? How much long will they make us wait for Dragon Ball Kai Ocean Group Dub...?

[Gonstead]

Sorry guys but still no news? How much long will they make us wait for Dragon Ball Kai Ocean Group Dub...?

Ocean hasn't even finished the final act of Inuyasha, which from what I know has had people waiting even longer than Kai if that's any indicator.

What EXACTLY has Ocean been currently working on anyway that we have actually seen? If nothing then what the hell is taking them so damn long unless they're just like "Meh, I'll do it tomorrow" continuously.

[VegettoEX]

Again, Ocean is not a production company -- they provide voices. Someone else is in charge of actually producing these properties. In the case of Inu-Yasha, it's Viz. In the case of this supposed upcoming alternate English dub of Kai, it's... well, someone.

Place the "blame" or whatever it is you want on this random, unnamed entity.

[Hades]

So why have "they" been so secretive regarding one of the biggest anime licensing contracts possible?

[VegettoEX]

Production trouble? License stipulations? Who knows?

[dagame10k]

Seeing as Canada has not seen a broadcast of Kai to date despite the FUNimation dub having been available for quite some time, I do wonder if this dub might actually appear on Cartoon Network 6-12 months from now, that's if Cartoon network is given some Anime programing, that is the only real possibility I see for Kai to get some air time in this country, YTV had lost interest in Dragon ball Z level of anime around Bionix's last days on the channel. Lack of interest in Anime in this country is pretty low, and that may also be the contributing factor as to why Kai hasn't shown up in this country.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Seeing as Canada has not seen a broadcast of Kai to date despite the FUNimation dub having been available for quite some time, I do wonder if this dub might actually appear on Cartoon Network 6-12 months from now, that's if Cartoon network is given some Anime programing, that is the only real possibility I see for Kai to get some air time in this country, YTV had lost interest in Dragon ball Z level of anime around Bionix's last days on the channel. Lack of interest in Anime in this country is pretty low, and that may also be the contributing factor as to why Kai hasn't shown up in this country.

Only a handful of Canadians such as us watch anime and read manga online and TV though. Since I have CW 23 in my area, I occasionally watch Kai, and some of Toonzai's shows that are barely edited.

[Pokewhiz7]

I've been under the impression that they're going to finish the whole show before it's released.

[Gonstead]

I've been under the impression that they're going to finish the whole show before it's released.

If they were going to do that, they should provide the courtesy of at least an official announcement and airing date if possible.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I've been under the impression that they're going to finish the whole show before it's released.

Well, we don't know that. That's just a theory I had as to why we haven't seen anything yet.

[elcrunkus]

they're dubbing the rest of Inuyasha, which is scheduled to be released this fall.


This ocean dub could very well still be over a year away.

[Super Sayian Prime]

Sorry guys but still no news? How much long will they make us wait for Dragon Ball Kai Ocean Group Dub...?

Ocean hasn't even finished the final act of Inuyasha, which from what I know has had people waiting even longer than Kai if that's any indicator.

I've been told Ocean finished recording InuYasha well over a year ago at this point.

Production trouble? License stipulations? Who knows?

Or if it's Toei or some random European company doing this it could just be a lack of understanding pr. We didn't exactly get an announcement for the Ocean dub V2, it just popped up on TV.

I've been under the impression that they're going to finish the whole show before it's released.

If they were going to do that, they should provide the courtesy of at least an official announcement and airing date if possible.

Again, as stated before this is not Ocean's call to announce when and how this dub would be released.

Seeing as Canada has not seen a broadcast of Kai to date despite the FUNimation dub having been available for quite some time, I do wonder if this dub might actually appear on Cartoon Network 6-12 months from now, that's if Cartoon network is given some Anime programing, that is the only real possibility I see for Kai to get some air time in this country, YTV had lost interest in Dragon ball Z level of anime around Bionix's last days on the channel. Lack of interest in Anime in this country is pretty low, and that may also be the contributing factor as to why Kai hasn't shown up in this country.

I very much doubt you'll see any third party programming on Cartoon Network Canada. You don't see it on Nickelodeon Canada, and they share ownership.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Sorry guys but still no news? How much long will they make us wait for Dragon Ball Kai Ocean Group Dub...?

Ocean hasn't even finished the final act of Inuyasha, which from what I know has had people waiting even longer than Kai if that's any indicator.

I've been told Ocean finished recording InuYasha well over a year ago at this point.

Production trouble? License stipulations? Who knows?

Or if it's Toei or some random European company doing this it could just be a lack of understanding pr. We didn't exactly get an announcement for the Ocean dub V2, it just popped up on TV.

I've been under the impression that they're going to finish the whole show before it's released.

If they were going to do that, they should provide the courtesy of at least an official announcement and airing date if possible.

Again, as stated before this is not Ocean's call to announce when and how this dub would be released.

Seeing as Canada has not seen a broadcast of Kai to date despite the FUNimation dub having been available for quite some time, I do wonder if this dub might actually appear on Cartoon Network 6-12 months from now, that's if Cartoon network is given some Anime programing, that is the only real possibility I see for Kai to get some air time in this country, YTV had lost interest in Dragon ball Z level of anime around Bionix's last days on the channel. Lack of interest in Anime in this country is pretty low, and that may also be the contributing factor as to why Kai hasn't shown up in this country.

I very much doubt you'll see any third party programming on Cartoon Network Canada. You don't see it on Nickelodeon Canada, and they share ownership.

I guess so. DB and DBGT were the only ones kept the Japanese score. To make things a little shaky, they can keep the Kikuchi score or change it to a new one to meet Canadian standards (at least borrow some themes from Canadian content wise shows like Bakugan, Beyblade, Atomic Betty, Reboot, Jimmy Two Shoes, Johnny Test, etc...)

[Hades]

I guess so. DB and DBGT were the only ones kept the Japanese score. To make things a little shaky, they can keep the Kikuchi score or change it to a new one to meet Canadian standards (at least borrow some themes from Canadian content wise shows like Bakugan, Beyblade, Atomic Betty, Reboot, Jimmy Two Shoes, Johnny Test, etc...)

If "they" did the latter, then their status as a Fit and Proper Licence Holder (a term borrowed from the Fit and Proper Person test for prospective British football managers) will be called into question. Changing the music is simply an unacceptable business practice for Anime licensing in this day and age.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

I guess so. DB and DBGT were the only ones kept the Japanese score. To make things a little shaky, they can keep the Kikuchi score or change it to a new one to meet Canadian standards (at least borrow some themes from Canadian content wise shows like Bakugan, Beyblade, Atomic Betty, Reboot, Jimmy Two Shoes, Johnny Test, etc...)

If "they" did the latter, then their status as a Fit and Proper Licence Holder (a term borrowed from the Fit and Proper Person test for prospective British football managers) will be called into question. Changing the music is simply an unacceptable business practice for Anime licensing in this day and age.

Z did Monster Rancher / Megaman for 123-291 as their unstandardized use. FUNimation did change Z and GT'a music, with Kai here, maybe FUNimation and Westwood will keep the Kai score.

[Hades]

I guess so. DB and DBGT were the only ones kept the Japanese score. To make things a little shaky, they can keep the Kikuchi score or change it to a new one to meet Canadian standards (at least borrow some themes from Canadian content wise shows like Bakugan, Beyblade, Atomic Betty, Reboot, Jimmy Two Shoes, Johnny Test, etc...)

If "they" did the latter, then their status as a Fit and Proper Licence Holder (a term borrowed from the Fit and Proper Person test for prospective British football managers) will be called into question. Changing the music is simply an unacceptable business practice for Anime licensing in this day and age.

Z did Monster Rancher / Megaman for 123-291 as their unstandardized use. FUNimation did change Z and GT'a music, with Kai here, maybe FUNimation and Westwood will keep the Kai score.

It's not Westwood or Funimation that's producing this dub, it's someone else. And what happened regarding the music during the initial run of Z/GT, whether Funi/Westwood/Saban is irrelevant to Kai, because doing that sort of thing today will destroy any company's credibility.

[RazorX]

And what happened regarding the music during the initial run of Z/GT, whether Funi/Westwood/Saban is irrelevant to Kai, because doing that sort of thing today will destroy any company's credibility.

No it wouldn't, and certainly not in this case.

At the end of the day, we watch the DB series because we gain enjoyment out of it, there's no point sticking to a decision that takes a lot of the enjoyment away just because it was made by the original producers. Don't forget that the music has already been replaced, and rather poorly.

A replacement of the original, or a replacement of a replacement, it doesn't matter, because the tag 'replacement music' is here, and unless Toei restores the original music, Kai has replacement music.

Ocean need to either use the original Yamamoto music or use their own music, preferably the same and continued from their Kid Buu saga dub.

If they do that, then Ocean's dub would musically blow all other versions out of the water, and that is something that would add to their credibility.

To top that off, Ocean and their contractor would get to keep the music royalties. I can see advantage after advantage for replacing the music.

[penguintruth]

The use of "replacement music" for an English dub is an absolutely loathesome practice, regardless of Kai's music troubles. If Ocean's dub for Kai does this, it will be a huge blow to my interest in it.

[RazorX]

You've said that, but haven't elaborated on why.

The point that gets conveniently ignored by some is that the music has already been replaced. That replacement music is not good enough, so another replacement music is needed for this much anticipated dub.