Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel it?

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Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel it?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:16 pm

Cancelled or on "hiatus for undetermined amount of time".

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The only decent (optimum) and complete release of Dragon Ball Z that FUNimation has published was Dragon Box Z, but for Lord's cake why did they cancel the UUE knowingly the OBs were crap, and also, why commence the DBZ Level X Part X when they probably knew they couldn't do it till the end?

I admit I'd prefer to own the DBZ Level X Part X but since it's been cancelled (or whatever anyone wants to call it) I'm stuck to the FUNimation Dragon Boxes Z, they're great and all, but the PQ on the Level BDs were superior.

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Hopefully FUNimation will re-release DBZ and so it'll be available for everyone to purchase than the OBs.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:21 pm

Dumb bitchy fanbase that don't know what they truly want. :lol:
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:29 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Cancelled or on "hiatus for undetermined amount of time".

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Hopefully FUNimation will re-release DBZ and so it'll be available for everyone to purchase than the OBs.
I heard these were because DVD singles were on their way out, and they didn't think they could finish while having them sell well. People just wanted boxsets. I really do hope they do some sort of cheap 4:3 release so that if anything happens to my Dragon Boxes, I have a quick and affordable way to replace them.

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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:32 pm

This is why I don't buy my DBZ anymore..... there are other means.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Cipher » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:39 pm

Because FUNimation puts out releases solely to anger fans and there are no other financial or marketing factors behind their decisions. They literally come up with the best releases possible, sit down in a board room, and talk about how far they'll get before cancelling them. Then Chris Sabat travels around the country yanking each set off store shelves while lighting cigarettes with copies of the Japanese scripts.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:47 pm

Cipher wrote:Because FUNimation puts out releases solely to anger fans and there are no other financial or marketing factors behind their decisions. They literally come up with the best releases possible, sit down in a board room, and talk about how far they'll get before cancelling them. Then Chris Sabat travels around the country yanking each set off store shelves while lighting cigarettes with copies of the Japanese scripts.
So FUNimation's marketing is basically troll marketing?

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by ThunderPX » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:08 pm

FUNimation's headquarters is actually powered by a dark god. To keep it in FUNimation's employ, every so often a sacrifice of several hundred gallons of delicious fanboy tears must be given to said evil deity, in exchange for which it allows them to license new titles.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 pm

Is this a serious question dbboxkaifan? Because the answer is painstakingly obvious. They thought these releases would sell well, but what was that they didn't reach their goals. Very few times will a company release something with the knowledge that what they're releasing will just be canceled shortly after.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by enapace » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:17 pm

I don't believe Dragon Ball Z: DF Singles [DVD] were actually canceled they just changed there mind into the movie packs as they use very similar box art.

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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Gonstead » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:48 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:This is why I don't buy my DBZ anymore..... there are other means.
And this right here is an example of why the Anime industry isn't doing as well as it has.
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Post by Son Satan » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:18 pm

enapace wrote:I don't believe Dragon Ball Z: DF Singles [DVD] were actually canceled they just changed there mind into the movie packs as they use very similar box art.
No, but they were cancelled because, afaik, FUNi knew they were overcrowding the shelves with steelbooks, BD Double Features and singles. The movie packs came out just last year.
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:18 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:This is why I don't buy my DBZ anymore..... there are other means.

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They canceled the UUEs because singles were getting too pointless with other TV shows doing full seasons. They canceled the BDs because they were too expensive to make. Everything else didn't get canceled.

I think the only thing that really doesn't make much sense time-wise was the split-up Double Features. Which then came back in packaged sets, so the ones that came out just sorta... are there. Not really an important cancellation.
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:31 pm

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DarkPrince_92 wrote:This is why I don't buy my DBZ anymore..... there are other means.
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I misunderstand.

But to go back to what I said. The only reason I say that is because I've been buying DBZ for years thinking that THIS will be the best way to watch the series....then Funimation comes out with something better, Dragon Box for example....then blue balls me. And no one act like they don't get anime without paying whether it's streaming or downloading. :roll:
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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Beji » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:47 pm

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DarkPrince_92 wrote:This is why I don't buy my DBZ anymore..... there are other means.
And this right here is an example of why the Anime industry isn't doing as well as it has.
I actually disagree for once. A person who hates piracy disagrees x.x, but hear me out. As I underlined he did say DBZ. FUNi has an obnoxious amount of re-releases, some being repackaging and that is it. If all anime came out with ONE GOOD RELEASE of each series instead of a few half ass ones or some offering little different things especially with DBZ(Like having a Dragon Box release with both the English and Japanese voices and both BGM) then there would be no point to go with these "other means". I love the series, I love supporting the series, I hope everyone on here knows that. But if they aren't going to come out with one complete US release I am going to have to obtain the orange brick/single audio and sync it up to my Dragon box video.

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Post by Cipher » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:47 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:But to go back to what I said. The only reason I say that is because I've been buying DBZ for years thinking that THIS will be the best way to watch the series....then Funimation comes out with something better, Dragon Box for example....then blue balls me. And no one act like they don't get anime without paying whether it's streaming or downloading. :roll:
I don't have to act like it, because I don't do it. Other than Dragon Ball, there are maybe three other anime series I still enjoy enough to own, and I own them. If I were into an anime without a stateside release, I suppose I'd stream or download it, but only with the knowledge that I'd be obligated to purchase any upcoming DVDs and Blu-Rays. TV shows I want to try out, I do so only if they're available on air, Hulu, Netflix or some other official, commercial avenue. The few TV shows I actively follow, even if I occasionally have to stream mid-season, I inevitably buy official season releases of.

Partly because I like to actually own the physical media, but mostly because I'm being a goddamn thief otherwise and I don't want my support for the property to be invisible. And it is invisible if I don't somehow add to the numbers they can track in terms of viewers, media sales or successful advertising.

FUNimation can put out as many releases as they want; bite the bullet and buy one you're comfortable with and tell yourself not to double dip (or go ahead and double dip if you feel like it) and let that be end of it. Or watch their official streams. You're not owed the show and they've given you plenty (too many, even) avenues to watch and own it. Hell, if you watched it on TV when it aired, you've already gotten your free screening (or whatever you paid for your cable package, and hey, that's what you pay for; the cable company doesn't work for free either). You get what you pay for, and the studios who animate and distribute these shows aren't working for free.

I'm not sure you get the irony of nathantheguitarist pointing out your signature, but if you really are an aspiring animator, you should know that nothing is produced without time, money and effort. There needs to be some compensation in order to continue; you need to know fans are out there. I don't know if you're looking for some real monetary compensation from what you do if you're just looking for exposure on YouTube, but what you're doing when you download a show without support an official release is the equivalent of either your fans not paying you for media you're selling or uploading your work to another YouTube channel so you can't track any of the views. The work is going unappreciated and unsupported because the people who honestly enjoy it can be assed to show it. And that's just tragic. Why bother with the next project if there's no support for the current one?
Beji wrote:I actually disagree for once. A person who hates piracy disagrees x.x, but hear me out. As I underlined he did say DBZ. FUNi has an obnoxious amount of re-releases, some being repackaging and that is it. If all anime came out with ONE GOOD RELEASE of each series instead of a few half ass ones or some offering little different things especially with DBZ(Like having a Dragon Box release with both the English and Japanese voices and both BGM) then there would be no point to go with these "other means". I love the series, I love supporting the series, I hope everyone on here knows that. But if they aren't going to come out with one complete US release I am going to have to obtain the orange brick/single audio and sync it up to my Dragon box video.
Once again, you aren't owed these things. And while there may be some extremes, there's really no excuse with Dragon Ball, where FUNimation has not only provided numerous releases, but been very communicative with the fans. If their best readily available offering right now is something you don't like, hold off. Don't buy it. But you're not owed some alternative and you aren't owed watchable Dragon Ball in the meantime. You know they're always looking at future releases. Or, in the meantime, they're so open-eared you could go ahead and buy the orange bricks cheaply and just send emails about what you'd like to see in a future release. Or buy older releases direct. Or do all of the above. Your call.

Even in extreme situations (say the series had only ever been released with an English dub in America), certainly there'd be foreign releases you could import or support that might match what you're looking for. Certainly you could download the version you prefer but then still purchase the physical release and correspond with the company (if they're selling what they currently have, they'll be more apt to consider re-releases).

And if you choose to do none of these things, well, again, you just aren't owed it. Someone makes this series, and that takes time and money. Someone releases it, and that takes time and money. It's a good; it's entertainment; it's made for profit. It isn't someone's artistic magnum opus they want read in the streets to better mankind. You either pay to get it in some form (buying home releases, paying for cable, watching advertising on network TV or streaming services) or you choose to forgo it.

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Re: Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel

Post by Beji » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:24 am

Cipher wrote:And if you choose to do none of these things, well, again, you just aren't owed it. Someone makes this series, and that takes time and money. Someone releases it, and that takes time and money. It's a good; it's entertainment; it's made for profit. It isn't someone's artistic magnum opus they want read in the streets to better mankind. You either pay to get it in some form (buying home releases, paying for cable, watching advertising on network TV or streaming services) or you choose to forgo it.
So you are saying if I have the english audio on vhs, some singles and the dragonboxes video and the the blu-rays (what they came out with anyways >.>) I shouldn't be able to just get the audio(which i physically own in different states) online and instead rip video to the computer(which I have unsuccessfully tried) and instead wait for ANOTHER release which may not even come out?

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Post by Cipher » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:27 am

Beji wrote:So you are saying if I have the english audio on vhs, some singles and the dragonboxes video and the the blu-rays (what they came out with anyways >.>) I shouldn't be able to just get the audio(which i physically own in different states) online and instead rip video to the computer(which I have unsuccessfully tried) and instead wait for ANOTHER release which may not even come out?
Oh, not at all. You already own all (most?) of the releases they've officially come out with? Then by all means, do whatever you want with them; you've already thrown your support at the company for the series.

I'm saying it would be wrong to simply download the version you want and never support any official releases.

Sorry; I think I misunderstood your original post.

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Post by KiddoCabbusses » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:31 am

Beji wrote: So you are saying if I have the english audio on vhs, some singles and the dragonboxes video and the the blu-rays (what they came out with anyways >.>) I shouldn't be able to just get the audio(which i physically own in different states) online and instead rip video to the computer(which I have unsuccessfully tried) and instead wait for ANOTHER release which may not even come out?
.... Just to ask, why would you bother with old Dub VHS Audio unless you're trying to sync DBox video to an edited Toonami dub recording or such, which is a heck of a lot of effort to begin with?

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Post by Beji » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:42 am

Cipher wrote:Oh, not at all. You already own all (most?) of the releases they've officially come out with? Then by all means, do whatever you want with them; you've already thrown your support at the company for the series.

I'm saying it would be wrong to simply download the version you want and never support any official releases.

Sorry; I think I misunderstood your original post.
Oh Thank God... I mean owning the Blue Bricks, GT bricks, GT dragon box, MOST FUNi singles, the first 2 orange bricks, the UUE, the Blu-Rays, The US Dragon Boxes, some of the VHS tapes(where I don't have the singles for them). We aren't even going to get into the movies... I have constantly supported buying the physical media of it and not that I should feel entitled but when I tried ripping vhs to the computer there was a massive drop off in quality. And I like to have the option of watching DBZ with the FUNi BGM and Dragon Box quality. If I took the time and sat down and moved all of them over with varying qualities I could do it but to get the audio online is just so much... easier(that or if they finished the Blu-ray release...)
KiddoCabbusses wrote: .... Just to ask, why would you bother with old Dub VHS Audio unless you're trying to sync DBox video to an edited Toonami dub recording or such, which is a heck of a lot of effort to begin with?
Because I enjoyed the old dub as well(comically) and watching it with superior video makes me happy :lol: . It really isn't that though as much as I want the redubbed version with the Falconer bgm synced up with DragonBox quality and I don't want to have to wait for FUNi to do that if they ever do.. And I know there will never be an ocean dub with Dragon Box quality so that I must also just do myself.. I just cant wait around to hope that the eventually possibly do it one day for fun.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:11 am

Why does FUNi release DBZ on BD/DVD when they'll cancel it?
They have an idea of how well a certain DVD\BD line should sell based on previous releases, what the fans want and what the fans are willing to pay for. Sometimes the numbers just don't come close to what they wanted or predicted and the line is canceled before they lose any more money.

Recently though, FUNimation seemed to be pretty erratic with their DBZ DVD\BD lines. One set would end and another would start with very little time in between with little or no differences from the previous release. They flooded the market and that's really not good. I think this might be why we never got those DragonBall Z: The Movies Dragon Box.

I don't get when people say FUNimation is doing this on purpose. I don't wanna sound mean but, that's a pretty stupid thing to say. They're basically just fishing for any DBZ fans that are willing to spend money on yet, another set. Hmm, that's a good way to look at it actually. FUNimation is throwing the bait out there, if no one bites, they reel it back in and change the bait. :lol:

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