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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:49 pm

MCDaveG wrote:I like classic J-Rock, but can't stand this boy groups aimed on girls, like Chala Head Chala being funny and energetic theme that will always cheer me up, but well, Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku completelly missed the spot, being included to promote the single itself which is love song....... That's DB example, the 90's anime and onward is more brutal in terms of theme and insert songs.
I really can't stand openings and endings for Gundam Wing for example, even more than Dan Dan.
Wow, really? Not saying that to patronize, just surprised is all. I'm of the exact opposite opinion musically on this one.

Head-Cha-La is a fun enough song, and I do like it, but...overall, to me, it pales in comparison to Makafushigi Adventure from the first series. The second DBZ opening was a better song, but still not as good as Makafushigi. Dan Dan, to me, was the first song to really feel like a good DB opening theme again to me, and I love the song.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:24 am

I can see where he is coming from, though. Musically, Dan Dan is great. Hell, it's the backbone of the entire GT score. And it certainly ranks up there as one of my favorite pieces of DB music. Lyrically, though, it's a complete failure as a Dragon Ball song. Its lyrics have absolutely nothing to do with Dragon Ball, either literally or thematically. It's not even in the same genre, not by a long shot. So I can see someone coming at it from a lyrical perspective and seeing nothing but the, admittedly blatant, product placement that it is.
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Post by Saiga » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:29 am

I never liked Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku. :? I guess that's not very common.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:44 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:So I can see someone coming at it from a lyrical perspective and seeing nothing but the, admittedly blatant, product placement that it is.
That shouldn't stop them from loving it though...love it, dammit! =P *Places song on continuous repeat in iTunes.*
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:34 am

And yet we still don't know what she looks like.
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Post by Wobbuffet » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:23 am

Just saying: doujinshi are very big in Japan, and there's even an annual event dedicated to them. Some are original work, and some are based on famous series. Some well-known artists also write doujinshi. For example, Kazushi Hagiwara, the author of Bastard!!, wrote some doujinshi that are canon to the series.
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Post by MCDaveG » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:04 am

I thought I saw her photo somewhere on this message board. If it was her, she has short hair and glasses.
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Post by soulnova » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:52 am

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Post by soulnova » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:04 pm

For some reason I can't edit my previous post.

Cipher wrote: And at the end of the day, we're all enjoying a series about muscly men hitting each other with more male nudity than female, so maybe the marketing hasn't been gay enough.

You have no idea how many girls this has attracted. When young adult Goku first appeared, I held an event to watch it at my house. 5 neighbor girls attended. There we were, 12 year old girls squealing every time Goku appeared on scene. I keep swooning over him and Vegeta.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:04 pm

MCDaveG wrote:One Piece We Are! Opening was great.
No, it wasn't great. It was godly.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Raykugen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:13 pm

Knowing this, probably toriyama, shueisha toei or whatever know about toyble and all of that, they know about AF, and probably, Toriyama selected Ooshi because her style it's similar to the actual Toriyama style and it looks very comical-

I think someone told to toriyama "hey if you want an artist to draw new db manga let's look at doujinshi artists, they re fan and they know about the series"
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:31 pm

If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
Also, are these yaoi too? Just curious, because they don't look like yaoi.

Even though I don't like yaoi (or any hentai stuff), I don't mind it at all. Her official stuff weren't great, but not bad either IMO.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by Raykugen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:32 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
Also, are these yaoi too? Just curious, because they don't look like yaoi.

Even though I don't like yaoi (or any hentai stuff), I don't mind it at all. Her official stuff weren't great, but not bad either IMO.
I think he talked with some people to search cool doujinshi artists (it's just a possibility xD)
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Post by AgitoZ » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:32 pm

Raykugen wrote:Knowing this, probably toriyama, shueisha toei or whatever know about toyble and all of that, they know about AF, and probably, Toriyama selected Ooshi because her style it's similar to the actual Toriyama style and it looks very comical-

I think someone told to toriyama "hey if you want an artist to draw new db manga let's look at doujinshi artists, they re fan and they know about the series"
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say that none of that happened. Ever.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
All those perverted jokes in the series are just fine. Letting someone who did some yaoi get involved with the franchise? That's horrible. :roll:
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Post by Raykugen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:44 pm

Kingdom Heartless wrote:Besides, I don't get the whole fuss about Toyable's work. I mean, he's good... but I wouldn't say he's the best choice. His art looks like fan-art, rather than someone doing their own thing, which sometimes is good, but you can't do your best work if you're emulating something. Ooishi has her own style, and I think it works nicely.
a own style makes that looks like fanart
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Post by Bussani » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:21 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
Toriyama is a self-proclaimed pervert.

I don't see what Ooishi's former projects have to do with anything, personally.
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Bussani wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Toriyama discovered and personally selected Ooishi, then he has a very dirty, twisted mind for a married man with children...
Toriyama is a self-proclaimed pervert.
Everybody knows this, but... yaoi? :|
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by AgitoZ » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:30 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everybody knows this, but... yaoi? :|
That he himself has nothing to do with. Ooishi wasn't hired to do that either. It doesn't affect the franchise in ANY way.

As that thread and I stated, Toriyama and the series were already perverted. But this is where you draw the line? Really?
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everybody knows this, but... yaoi? :|
Um...yes? Why is it a big deal? Would anyone have made a fuss about this if she'd been drawing Dragon Ball yuri?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:59 pm

Bussani wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everybody knows this, but... yaoi? :|
Um...yes? Why is it a big deal? Would anyone have made a fuss about this if she'd been drawing Dragon Ball yuri?
Sadly, probably not. I've seen that double standard a lot. Gay guys, gross; lesbians, hot. I just don't get how someone can allow one without automatically allowing the other, even if they're not into it.
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